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Old 08-07-2014, 05:20 PM   Topic Starter
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Militants in Iraq Hit by Strikes, Kurds Say

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DOHUK, Iraq — American military forces bombed at least two targets in northern Iraq on Thursday night to rout Islamist insurgents who have trapped tens of thousands of religious minorities in Kurdish areas, Kurdish officials said.

Word of the bombings, reported on Kurdish television from the city of Erbil, came as President Obama was preparing to make a statement in Washington.

Kurdish officials said the bombings targeted fighters from the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria who had seized two towns, Gwer and Mahmour. Residents who had fled those areas by car were heard honking their horns in approval. But Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary, said on Twitter that the reports of a U.S. airstrike were false.

Obama administration officials had said earlier in the day that Mr. Obama was considering airstrikes or airdrops of food and medicine to address a humanitarian crisis among as many as 40,000 members of religious minorities in Iraq, who have been dying of heat and thirst on a mountaintop where they took shelter after death threats from ISIS.
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Old 08-07-2014, 05:58 PM   #2
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:28 PM   #3
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:36 PM   #4
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:43 PM   #5
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Now is the time to move and strike ISIS. The humanitarian air drops in Iraq to provide water and food to the 40,000 or so religious minorities stranded on a mountaintop is complete.

The US has to hit every truck and (American) Humvee on the roads leading to the mountaintop. Anything short of that would be unconscionable conduct of our part. ISIS has the north side surrounded leading to the mountaintop.

And for the love of God, help the Kurdish Peshmerga in every way we can - The Kurdistan Regional Government helped our troops throughout the Iraqi war.

The Kurdish state would be a permanent base for American and Israeli influence on Iran's border. Why Obama waited this long baffles the mind.
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:47 PM   #6
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Now is the time to move and strike ISIS. The humanitarian air drops in Iraq to provide water and food to the 40,000 or so religious minorities stranded on a mountaintop is complete.

The US has to hit every truck and (American) Humvee on the roads leading to the mountaintop. Anything short of that would be unconscionable conduct of our part. ISIS has the north side surrounded leading to the mountaintop.

And for the love of God, help the Kurdish Peshmerga in every way we can - The Kurdistan Regional Government helped our troops throughout the Iraqi war.

The Kurdish state would be a permanent base for American and Israeli influence on Iran's border. Why Obama waited this long baffles the mind.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:33 PM   #7
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It is clear that that at some point the US will have to fight ISIS. The group, which largely consists of foreign fighters, includes Americans and Europeans. It relies on the sword – 'must prevail across the world.' Turkey has paved the way.

Make no mistake, al-Baghdadi has warned the US that we are in his master plan.

Al-Baghdadi’s proclamation of a caliphate and a caliph is a monumental act in itself.

I am looking forward to al-Baghdadi’s response via video in the next couple of days.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:11 PM   #8
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It is clear that that at some point the US will have to fight ISIS. The group, which largely consists of foreign fighters, includes Americans and Europeans. It relies on the sword – 'must prevail across the world.' Turkey has paved the way.

Make no mistake, al-Baghdadi has warned the US that we are in his master plan.

Al-Baghdadi’s proclamation of a caliphate and a caliph is a monumental act in itself.

I am looking forward to al-Baghdadi’s response via video in the next couple of days.
I share your view that at a point in near future these people must be put down. US cannot do it alone. But I see few leaders willing to enter a fight with Obama at their side. He has shown he cannot be trusted. He is weak. And he has no resolve. This is the opening radical Islam needs and they know it. If they threaten other mulim countries enough they may act. This is the harvest from Obamas Arab Spring support for the Brotherhood.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:35 AM   #9
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It is clear that that at some point the US will have to fight ISIS. The group, which largely consists of foreign fighters, includes Americans and Europeans. It relies on the sword – 'must prevail across the world.' Turkey has paved the way.

Make no mistake, al-Baghdadi has warned the US that we are in his master plan.

Al-Baghdadi’s proclamation of a caliphate and a caliph is a monumental act in itself.

I am looking forward to al-Baghdadi’s response via video in the next couple of days.
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Old 08-08-2014, 11:33 PM   #10
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Here punk - This is an audio message from Al-Baghdadi to you. Retweet 8 August 2014. Now, go bury your head in the sand and get out of my sight.




A Message from al-Baghdadi to America:

Finally, this is a message addressed to America. You should know, you defender of the cross, that getting others to fight on your behalf will not do for you in Syria as it will not do for you in Iraq. And soon enough you will be in direct confrontation, forced to do so, God willing. And the sons of Islam have prepared themselves for this day. So wait, and we will be waiting too.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:29 PM   #11
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The Kurdish state would be a permanent base for American and Israeli influence on Iran's border. Why Obama waited this long baffles the mind.
The answer you are looking for is Turkey. Turkey does not want a Kurdish state. Neither does Iran for that matter.
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:50 PM   #12
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The answer you are looking for is Turkey. Turkey does not want a Kurdish state. Neither does Iran for that matter.
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The answer you are looking for is Turkey. Turkey does not want a Kurdish state. Neither does Iran for that matter.
Syrian Kurdish militants of the PYD’s military wing, the Turkish Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), and the Kurdish People's Defense Units (YPG) have joined forces.

Iraq's KRG is working with Turkey through a newly oil pipeline - Crude oil have left Turkey on tankers to be sold to foreign buyers.

Iraq with US backing warned foreign buyers the crude oil was taken from Iraq without permission. Since ISIS fighters seized control of Iraq's dam, and oil field - Turkey have been accused of commercializing the oil illegally drilled by ISIS.
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Old 08-07-2014, 11:00 PM   #13
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Now is the time to move and strike ISIS. The humanitarian air drops in Iraq to provide water and food to the 40,000 or so religious minorities stranded on a mountaintop is complete.

The US has to hit every truck and (American) Humvee on the roads leading to the mountaintop. Anything short of that would be unconscionable conduct of our part. ISIS has the north side surrounded leading to the mountaintop.

And for the love of God, help the Kurdish Peshmerga in every way we can - The Kurdistan Regional Government helped our troops throughout the Iraqi war.

The Kurdish state would be a permanent base for American and Israeli influence on Iran's border. Why Obama waited this long baffles the mind.

It doesn't baffle me I think he's a muslim in disguise. Have you noticed how he has treated Israel since he's been in office?l
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Old 08-07-2014, 08:52 PM   #14
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Obviously, his "advisor surge" hasn't been having much of an effect.

Obama is always leading from behind. This is no different. He waited forever to do anything when the story was fresh and would have generated some backlash if he'd made a strong leadership move, like air strikes or some kind of limited direct action against these militants. By this point the course of action is so obvious that it's zero-risk politically.
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:15 PM   #15
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Wow. I knew Tyler Bray had a big arm but he's tossing bombs clear to Kurdistan....
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