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Old 10-24-2015, 10:49 AM   Topic Starter
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Why baseball is improving and the NFL is getting worse

Last night and this week said so much about why MLB leadership is kicking NFL leadership's ass.

To the NFL, the Royals would be a super bowl nightmare. Midwest city, not a national presence.

The MLB commissioner had a chance to boost ratings by eliminating defensive shifts. Getting rid of defense creates more offense which gets casual fans excited. He declined. The NFL, on the other hand, has chosen the past few years to emphasize defensive holding to open up an already advantaged passing game.

This defensive approach, by the way, favors small market. While the Yankees were loading up on power and pitching, the Royals countered with defense and bullpen. The Royals, in fact, beat a Blue Jays team that took that exact approach mid-season.

Even in the larger markets, this year FOUR out of eight playoff teams were teams that had a significant playoff drought -- Cubs, Toronto, Houston, Mets.

We saw a banned gambler and a justly punished PED in the studio. The NFL, on the other hand, is considering penalizing Johnny Manziel for an incident in which no charges were pressed and is dealing with a gambling site with integrity issues.


I love the NFL a hell of a lot more than I love MLB. It's just a shame to see the two very different directions the two leagues are moving in.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:11 AM   #2
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yup you nailed it

if the Chiefs were allowed to get away with defensive holding they would be in the Super Bowl! DAM YOU ROGER GOODELL FOR NOT LETTING A MIDWEST TEAM HOLD ON DEFENSE

or maybe, just maybe, the Royals have a lot of talent for their respective sport and the Chiefs have none, that might be logical.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:13 PM   #3
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yup you nailed it

if the Chiefs were allowed to get away with defensive holding they would be in the Super Bowl! DAM YOU ROGER GOODELL FOR NOT LETTING A MIDWEST TEAM HOLD ON DEFENSE

or maybe, just maybe, the Royals have a lot of talent for their respective sport and the Chiefs have none, that might be logical.
This isn't just about the chiefs. The nfl has given an extraordinary advantage to any team with a franchise QB. It was already big before all the pass friendly rule changes.

Again, the mlb had a chance to make a similar decision by cracking down on defensive shifts. It would have improved ratings. But they didn't.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:24 AM   #4
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There is far more parity in MLB now than in the NFL.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:30 AM   #5
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There is far more parity in MLB now than in the NFL.
It's almost like MLB is using the rules to control parity.


The NFL may have a cap (lol), but their rules pretty much only allow the "have's" to win consistently.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:36 AM   #6
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It's almost like MLB is using the rules to control parity.


The NFL may have a cap (lol), but their rules pretty much only allow the "have's" to win consistently.
Baseball is much more of a team game. You can have the best pitcher in baseball but he can only pitch every five games. In baseball if you have a good front office you can build a dynamite team through the draft and there isn't a concrete you must have this to win way to build.

The NFL has become QB and pass centric to the determent of defenses and RBs. The only real big defensive stars are Watt, Sherman, and Revis. Compare that to earlier periods.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:48 AM   #7
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There is far more parity in MLB now than in the NFL.
There always has been. We just didn't notice it because we sucked and blamed it on imbalance...while the Twins and Indians dominated our division.
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Old 10-24-2015, 12:50 PM   #8
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There always has been. We just didn't notice it because we sucked and blamed it on imbalance...while the Twins and Indians dominated our division.
The when big market teams poach the players you developed and pay them more than your entire roster, it's not balanced.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:02 PM   #9
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The when big market teams poach the players you developed and pay them more than your entire roster, it's not balanced.
People can cry about this all they want, yet baseball has more parity than any other sport.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:14 PM   #10
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There is far more parity in MLB now than in the NFL.
Sure is.

And that's a sport sans salary cap.

If you have a QB, you win in the NFL. Sure, you get a team like the Bengals, and Broncos, but Packers, Patriots are hands down going to the SB. It would take a miracle for both not to.
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Old 10-25-2015, 09:30 AM   #11
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Sure is.

And that's a sport sans salary cap.

If you have a QB, you win in the NFL. Sure, you get a team like the Bengals, and Broncos, but Packers, Patriots are hands down going to the SB. It would take a miracle for both not to.
I don't agree with this.

The Patriots, in the AFC, are clearly the favorite because of coaching, talent, and history.

But Andy Dalton is playing at an elite level right now, and making plays in clutch moments.
His playoff history has been piss poor, but he's just into his prime, and his history won't dictate what he does moving forward.
This Bengal team can win in the playoffs if Dalton continues to play at this level.

In the NFC, the Pack are playing better defense than they have in some time, but the Cardinals and the Seahawks are still a threat, and they play great defense, though the Seahawks have faltered late in games this season.
They have good enough QBs in Palmer and Wilson, and the fact is, despite the stupid shit that zilla posts, defense still wins.
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:04 AM   #12
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I don't agree with this.

The Patriots, in the AFC, are clearly the favorite because of coaching, talent, and history.

But Andy Dalton is playing at an elite level right now, and making plays in clutch moments.
His playoff history has been piss poor, but he's just into his prime, and his history won't dictate what he does moving forward.
This Bengal team can win in the playoffs if Dalton continues to play at this level.

In the NFC, the Pack are playing better defense than they have in some time, but the Cardinals and the Seahawks are still a threat, and they play great defense, though the Seahawks have faltered late in games this season.
They have good enough QBs in Palmer and Wilson, and the fact is, despite the stupid shit that zilla posts, defense still wins.
Only true because we have probably the weakest QB talent in years.

This year has to be one of the worst parity years in a long time. A few very good teams. Lots of really mediocre teams. Even more teams that are completely terrible.

None of it changes the intent of the league. There is no good reason for the nfl to make defensive holding a point of emphasis if they weren't trying to artificially create offense.
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Old 10-24-2015, 11:30 AM   #13
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Too bad no one saw the LCS due it being on backwater cable channels that have very little subscribers.
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Too bad no one saw the LCS due it being on backwater cable channels that have very little subscribers.
Felt like every person I know had the games playing on their TV. I don't think any of us had to subscribe to anything special.
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