Chiefs Is there really a top 10 QB?

Chiefs4TheWin · 10-25-2015, 08:22 PM

Let's be honest. This class sucks. If Christian Hackenturd is in the conversation for the first round, we may as well win.

**Perineum Ripper** · 10-25-2015, 08:24 PM

Draft a fatty..these QB's suck

ThaVirus · 10-25-2015, 08:26 PM

Too risky

Chiefs4TheWin · 10-25-2015, 08:30 PM

I'm with the whole draft a QB thing, but let be a little real. They actually all suck. Pretty bad.

Sandy Vagina · 10-25-2015, 08:31 PM

just trade for kraperdick and get it over with!

**RealSNR** · 10-25-2015, 08:35 PM

There's never a QB out there good enough for this ****ing fan base.

This class could be nothing but Andrew Lucks and half the fans would snub their noses up at the whole thing.

**Baby Lee** · 10-25-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

There's never a QB out there good enough for this ****ing fan base.

This class could be nothing but Andrew Lucks and half the fans would snub their noses up at the whole thing.

The problem I'm starting to sense is that, even with the offense preferring rules, the position is talenting itself out of the market for an immediate impact player.

Maybe 2 every 3 years competition ready. 2 every 5 years playoff ready within 5 years in the league, draft-wide.

ClevelandBronco · 10-25-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

There's never a QB out there good enough for this ****ing fan base.

This class could be nothing but Andrew Lucks and half the fans would snub their noses up at the whole thing.

At this point, I'm not even sure that Andrew Luck is an Andrew Luck.

**Baby Lee** · 10-25-2015, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

At this point, I'm not even sure that Andrew Luck is an Andrew Luck.

Irsay is already chewing out his GM.

Perhaps we'll soon see which approach is better.

oaklandhater · 10-25-2015, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Irsay is already chewing out his GM.

Perhaps we'll soon see which approach is better.

The colts will go to the playoffs with a losing record maybe 7-9

And they will clean house

We will Miss the playoffs with a losing record for the 2nd times in a row and nothing will change it isn't fair

GloucesterChief · 10-25-2015, 10:40 PM

Goff, Lynch, and Cook all have first round talent and upside.

Hogan, Hackenberg, and Kessler will probably go late first to second.

Cardale Jones might come out and will be a late 2nd to 3rd. He is playing in the wrong system at Ohio State and it is hurting him. He is not a read-option guy.

milkman · 10-25-2015, 08:36 PM

We should just save this poll and pull back up every year.

tk13 · 10-25-2015, 08:38 PM

Eventually someone is going to have to be a good QB, or at least be good relative to everyone else.

I don't know where the league is going to be in 4-5 years... as the 2000's guys all age out of the league. Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Eli, all of these guys are getting into their mid 30's. They don't have many prime seasons left. And even Rodgers, Flacco and Ryan are in their 30s.

That basically leaves Wilson and Luck. And probably Dalton and Newton. There aren't many "elite" QBs under 30 years old... and a lot of people on this board would argue those four guys aren't that great. I'm not sure who the next wave will be, but somebody in this league will have to be playing QB and winning games.

Chiefs4TheWin · 10-25-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Eventually someone is going to have to be a good QB, or at least be good relative to everyone else.

I don't know where the league is going to be in 4-5 years... as the 2000's guys all age out of the league. Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Eli, all of these guys are getting into their mid 30's. They don't have many prime seasons left. And even Rodgers, Flacco and Ryan are in their 30s.

That basically leaves Wilson and Luck. And probably Dalton and Newton. There aren't many "elite" QBs under 30 years old... and a lot of people on this board would argue those four guys aren't that great. I'm not sure who the next wave will be, but somebody in this league will have to be playing QB and winning games.

That's a fair point. QB play in general is shit. There's not many new "good" QBs taking over.

milkman · 10-25-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Eventually someone is going to have to be a good QB, or at least be good relative to everyone else.

I don't know where the league is going to be in 4-5 years... as the 2000's guys all age out of the league. Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Eli, all of these guys are getting into their mid 30's. They don't have many prime seasons left. And even Rodgers, Flacco and Ryan are in their 30s.

That basically leaves Wilson and Luck. And probably Dalton and Newton. There aren't many "elite" QBs under 30 years old... and a lot of people on this board would argue those four guys aren't that great. I'm not sure who the next wave will be, but somebody in this league will have to be playing QB and winning games.

You look at the list of elite to near elite QBs in this league, all but Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger sat and learned for at least a half season before being given the keys, and Roethlisberger was barely asked to do anything but hand the ball off to Bettis in his first season.

The problem, I believe, as I've said before, is not talent.
It's development.

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10-25-2015, 08:22 PM	Topic Starter
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GloucesterChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2013 Casino cash: $-1793546	Goff, Lynch, and Cook all have first round talent and upside. Hogan, Hackenberg, and Kessler will probably go late first to second. Cardale Jones might come out and will be a late 2nd to 3rd. He is playing in the wrong system at Ohio State and it is hurting him. He is not a read-option guy.
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10-25-2015, 08:38 PM	#13
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1677500	Eventually someone is going to have to be a good QB, or at least be good relative to everyone else. I don't know where the league is going to be in 4-5 years... as the 2000's guys all age out of the league. Roethlisberger, Romo, Rivers, Eli, all of these guys are getting into their mid 30's. They don't have many prime seasons left. And even Rodgers, Flacco and Ryan are in their 30s. That basically leaves Wilson and Luck. And probably Dalton and Newton. There aren't many "elite" QBs under 30 years old... and a lot of people on this board would argue those four guys aren't that great. I'm not sure who the next wave will be, but somebody in this league will have to be playing QB and winning games.
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