Chiefs Can we talk offensive line?

TambaBerry · 12-26-2016, 08:36 AM

Can someone please explain to me why our offensive line sucks so bad? We can't open up any holes for Ware, we can't push the ball in from the one yard line, we also let guys run free into the backfield. Is it coaching? Do our players just suck?

kccrow · 12-26-2016, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Can someone please explain to me why our offensive line sucks so bad? We can't open up any holes for Ware, we can't push the ball in from the one yard line, we also let guys run free into the backfield. Is it coaching? Do our players just suck?

More suck than anything IMO.

Fisher was terrible last night. He's usually solid, but when he plays bad, its really bad. The guards are dog shit for the most part, although I have seen growth from Tardif this year. I'm not overly high on the O-line scouting so far in the Dorsey/Reid era, but its not like its any worse than during Pioli's tenure.

TambaBerry · 12-26-2016, 08:42 AM

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More suck than anything IMO.

Fisher was terrible last night. He's usually solid, but when he plays bad, its really bad. The guards are dog shit for the most part, although I have seen growth from Tardif this year. I'm not overly high on the O-line scouting so far in the Dorsey/Reid era, but its not like its any worse than during Pioli's tenure.

I want my early 2000s line back lol they were so dominate

kccrow · 12-26-2016, 08:45 AM

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I want my early 2000s line back lol they were so dominate

Hahaha. Yeah that'd be nice but the Shields' and Roaf's' of the world don't come around so often. I'd like to just see adequacy sometimes. I don't like the guards. I just don't. I think you need strong guards in the NFL if you're a West Coast team, and can get away with passable tackles. Chiefs have the tackles, but their guards are ... weak.

Chiefshrink · 12-26-2016, 02:39 PM

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More suck than anything IMO.
I'm not overly high on the O-line scouting so far in the Dorsey/Reid era, but its not like its any worse than during Pioli's tenure.

Funny. Out here in Denver obviously Elway has been praised up and down for the last 4yrs BUT now that he has very little running game and has literally watched his o-line crumble like a house of cards this season, the die hard educated fans and objective sports press out here are now starting to scrutinize his draft picks along the o-line.

**Buehler445** · 12-26-2016, 08:55 AM

Fish did some work on Kelces big run.

And, there were no sacks. It's better than it has been.

And I'd say we have competency. We can't do everything but we can do some things. Incompetent is what Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards rolled out after he dismantled the "circus offense". **** that bitch.

R Clark · 12-26-2016, 08:57 AM

Run blocking sucks

**LoneWolf** · 12-26-2016, 09:02 AM

Spencer Ware averages almost five yards per carry, the Chiefs rush for 238 yards, and the offensive line doesn't allow a sack in 37 pass attempts to the best pass rushing duo in the NFL. Guess it's time to start a thread bitching about the offensive line.

TambaBerry · 12-26-2016, 09:06 AM

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Spencer Ware averages almost five yards per carry, the Chiefs rush for 238 yards, and the offensive line doesn't allow a sack in 37 pass attempts to the best pass rushing duo in the NFL. Guess it's time to start a thread bitching about the offensive line.

it's just a conversation please don't come in here and derail the thread.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-26-2016, 09:12 AM

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it's just a conversation please don't come in here and derail the thread.

His point was valid

Sandy Vagina · 12-26-2016, 11:13 AM

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His point was valid

was valid, but dude was a bit of an ass about it.

The OL looked to have done a decent job against DEN, to me. Sure.. there were times that Ware had to make his yards on his own. Times where Smith took some crazy quick pressures/hits. That's just gonna happen against that D, and when the KC line is more finesse than brute force.

Not at all a great OL this season, as hoped, but they are also out of the bottom tier for the first time in the Andy era.

philfree · 12-26-2016, 09:16 AM

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it's just a conversation please don't come in here and derail the thread.

He's got a point. IMO our O line struggles because of youth. Besides Schwartz we've drafted this line in the last four years. 2nd year C and RG and a backup at LG and the starter was a rookie. As these guys mature hopefully they come together as a unit.

kcchiefsus · 12-26-2016, 09:41 AM

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He's got a point. IMO our O line struggles because of youth. Besides Schwartz we've drafted this line in the last four years. 2nd year C and RG and a backup at LG and the starter was a rookie. As these guys mature hopefully they come together as a unit.

At which point Dorsey will let them walk in FA.

philfree · 12-26-2016, 09:44 AM

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At which point Dorsey will let them walk in FA.

That's a few years down the road if it happens but in the mean time Dorsey needs to draft some competition.

chefs fan in omaha · 12-26-2016, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Spencer Ware averages almost five yards per carry, the Chiefs rush for 238 yards, and the offensive line doesn't allow a sack in 37 pass attempts to the best pass rushing duo in the NFL. Guess it's time to start a thread bitching about the offensive line.

I agree, most teams with 11 Or 12 win seasons Olines usually suck

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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1385266	Fish did some work on Kelces big run. And, there were no sacks. It's better than it has been. And I'd say we have competency. We can't do everything but we can do some things. Incompetent is what Squirmin Herman Mother**ing Sack of Edwards rolled out after he dismantled the "circus offense". ** that bitch.
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LoneWolf Constable of Untruths Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $-788916	Spencer Ware averages almost five yards per carry, the Chiefs rush for 238 yards, and the offensive line doesn't allow a sack in 37 pass attempts to the best pass rushing duo in the NFL. Guess it's time to start a thread bitching about the offensive line.
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