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Old 12-16-2023, 12:08 PM   Topic Starter
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Darkest moment in gaming you've played.

For me it's hands down a player initiated train robbery in Red Dead Redemption 2.

The gameplay mechanic in RDR2 that has loot on every dead body is partially to blame here, along with the inexplicable behavior of the NPC passengers in an otherwise exceptionally immersive game.

So RDR2 if you're not cheating can be grindy as hell to make money. One of the fastest ways is to rob the Annesburgh train as it passes into the tunnel heading west. With the train stopped in the tunnel, RDR2'S magically appearing lawmen do not function as they do out in the open, and you can rob the passengers at your leisure once you've killed the few armed guards on the train.

It's very dimly lit if the train has lighting, and pitch black if it doesn't, so the only light source is your lantern or your miners hat, which I prefer.

You then can systematically move passenger to passenger, robbing them of their money, as they sit terrified and begging for their lives.

You can get good money from this, but the aforementioned looting mechanic makes it more profitable to murder the npc after you rob them, as you will loot valuable items to be used in trinket crafting, selling for money, or used as health items.

This mechanic makes every NPC on this train that you're robbing, a liar. You ask for all the money, they say this is it, you kill them and loot as much if not more than they gave you.

So now, this train robbery has evolved into a robbery and mass murder, because you're trying to get the money you need as fast as possible.

The second element that makes this so dark is that the rest of the passengers do not run when the first passenger is robbed and murdered. They react horrified, crying out, begging for their lives, but they don't run.

They just sit and wait for what happened to the first to happen to them.

I remember it being enough that when I saw my girls were watching this, I turned the game off immediately.

I'm not a games make kids into killers type person, as I let my kids play gta 3 with the gore code on, exploding cartoony pixelated heads and giggling all day.

This though, this was actually disturbing. Moving through the dark, robbing them, hearing them beg for mercy and just blowing half their faces off with a sawed off shotgun, and slowly moving through the train looting headless corpses in the dimly lit train, and these character models are pretty detailed.

I was actually not willing to let my kids watch that gameplay.

I've played a lot of crazy things, like Manhunt, Punisher, tge "No Russian" airport slaughter in Call of Duty, none of it ever really move the needle for me to be like oh hell no, my kids shouldn't look at this.

Just something about them begging for mercy and my kids seeing the response to that being pull the trigger, and the passengers never ****ing run.


Like, that sequence could be extremely lessened in dark factor if after you murdered the person you robbed, no items were on the body, and if you did murder someone, the rest of the passengers should instantly run and try to escape the train.

Great game, but you can do some really disturbing things with it.

I'll note for anyone that's never played, the game never makes it an objective to do this. This us just something you can do to get money on your own. In fact, I think if you kill a passenger in the missions to rob trains, the mission will fail.
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Old 12-16-2023, 02:46 PM   #2
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The airport in COD.
You could hear the blood in your footsteps.

Followed by that scene in FFVII where Cloud had to be a hooker.
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Old 12-16-2023, 03:49 PM   #3
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Followed by that scene in FFVII where Cloud had to be a hooker.
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Old 12-16-2023, 04:08 PM   #4
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Not super dark but a weird emotional reaction in a Cyberpunk quest called "Dirty Biz."

A father and son run a ****ed up shop where they record memories of horribly tortured victims and sell them on the black market.

I decided to kill the son first. Chopped his head off with a katana for all his sins.

His dad proceeded to drop to his knees and just ****ing wail and cry shit like "My boy! You killed my boy!"

I couldn't help but feel a little bit of guilt despite knowing what an utter piece of shit monster I just disposed of.

Of course I killed the father next and walked right out, but still... what a weird emotional reaction that quest elicited.
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Old 12-16-2023, 06:30 PM   #5
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Old 12-16-2023, 04:11 PM   #6
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The airport in COD.
You could hear the blood in your footsteps.

Followed by that scene in FFVII where Cloud had to be a hooker.
That was immediately came to mind for me as well.

There's some pretty dark stuff in Silent Hill 2 and 3 but it's more subtle.
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Old 12-16-2023, 08:52 PM   #7
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The airport in COD.
You could hear the blood in your footsteps.

Followed by that scene in FFVII where Cloud had to be a hooker.
I must have had some shit audio setup or just not paying attention. I didn't realize that sound design was so good. Of course, I didn't really stop to smell the roses on that particular scene either.

I found that on a replay of that mission, you can actually complete it without ever firing your weapon, so I found that particularly interesting.

Sort of a "you didn't have to shoot anyone, but you pulled the trigger anyway" kind of moment.
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Old 12-16-2023, 11:54 PM   #8
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Old 12-16-2023, 03:18 PM   #9
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Old 12-16-2023, 03:25 PM   #10
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Thought you were going to say Andy Reid playcalling in Madden.
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Old 12-20-2023, 08:47 AM   #11
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Thought you were going to say Andy Reid playcalling in Madden.
Madden franchise mode is more depressing than dark. Greed really is the root of all evil so I guess it qualifies.

As an aside, imagine letting the braindead CPU call your plays. Hilariously enough, if you do select to do this on 3rd and short, it is all plays that will probably work, so the game comes nowhere near an accurate simulation of Andy Reid.

To do that it would have to just override your playcall to something completly low percentage for the situation, and at least once a game burn one of your timeouts automatically in any first and goal situation. It burns two if you're at the 1. Any close ball spots for the opposing offense will be automatically challenged in the first quarter, as well as if your defense is struggling to get stops late in a half, timeouts will automatically be taken to give the opposing offense more time to fist you with a patented Madden play where the guy breaks 5 tackles on his way to a long td.
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The evil ending of Jade Empire immediately came to mind. Jade Empire was similar to KOTOR, only set in ancient China. Throughout the game your character is aided by some sort of benevolent spirit dragon that has been damaged by the baddies. At the end, you can either restore her strength or destroy her and take all the power for yourself. I played through that game several times and only did the evil ending once. It was like killing puppies evil. I pretty much grimaced and shook my head throughout the entire sequence.

I tend to play these games as I would if it was really me doing stuff. I'll gleefully kill pirates, thieves, evil corporate types and douchebags, and happily take their shit, but when it comes to storylines that require me to pillage and murder decent, normal, non-threatening folks, I don't enjoy it, and that's kind of the point of playing these things.
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There's something kind of dark in Ark Survival Ascended where you kill the mother of some dino babies and only then can you claim the babies and raise them.
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Any of the execution scenes from the Manhunt games. Straight murder porn.
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Any of the execution scenes from the Manhunt games. Straight murder porn.
Manhunt's sound design was certainly disturbing. The weapon sounds and the yells, screams, gurgles of the guy getting merc'd, but visually both games just looked so shitty that it was impossible to take it seriously.


Soldier of Fortune, Gold Edition for the PS2 falls into this category also. Same blocky character models to shoot at, but full body dismemberment, and the most spine chilling screams possibly ever recorded for a video game.
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