Pujols signs w Angels

[Willie Lanier]

per Dan Patrick Show

wow

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

First of all, I'm an Angels fan and have been since I can remember (early 70s). I ****ing hate the Doyyers. I dont give a shit what they are doing or how well they are doing. Im an Angels fan. period. No ****ing bandwagon here. just like Im a chiefs fan and I that wont change based on W/L records. And I know alot of Angel fans just like me,. We arent in the top teams for attendance becasue there arent any fans. So kindly go **** yourself for your disparaging comment.

Secondly, it came out today that Pujols is pregnant and his family is still in STL. Apparently his slow start has alot to do with pressing and people are suspecting emotional, like not having his family around. Whatever it is, he will turn it around, hopefully soon. Besides, the whole ****ing team has sucked ass, not just Albert.

Also a little history, the Angels were the original LA team, they were a triple A team when the BROOKLYN Dodgers were in BROOKLYN, NY. And the name is more about TV revenues than actual city. If teams had to name themselves after cities or counties they were actaully in then we'd have The Arlington Rangers, and The Independence Royals and The New Jersey Giants etc...

Pujols is pregnant? Damn, no wonder his game's in the shitter.

[seclark]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Secondly, it came out today that Pujols is pregnant and his family is still in STL. Apparently his slow start has alot to do with pressing and people are suspecting emotional, like not having his family around.

as strange as that sounds, i'm sure it could affect his swing if true.

extra mouth to feed will cost more...hope he can make it.
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damnit fraz...

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

First of all, I'm an Angels fan and have been since I can remember (early 70s). I ****ing hate the Doyyers. I dont give a shit what they are doing or how well they are doing. Im an Angels fan. period. No ****ing bandwagon here. just like Im a chiefs fan and I that wont change based on W/L records. And I know alot of Angel fans just like me,. We arent in the top teams for attendance becasue there arent any fans. So kindly go **** yourself for your disparaging comment.

Secondly, it came out today that Pujols is pregnant and his family is still in STL. Apparently his slow start has alot to do with pressing and people are suspecting emotional, like not having his family around. Whatever it is, he will turn it around, hopefully soon. Besides, the whole ****ing team has sucked ass, not just Albert.

Also a little history, the Angels were the original LA team, they were a triple A team when the BROOKLYN Dodgers were in BROOKLYN, NY. And the name is more about TV revenues than actual city. If teams had to name themselves after cities or counties they were actaully in then we'd have The Arlington Rangers, and The Independence Royals and The New Jersey Giants etc...

That's great.

It's still a Dodgers town.

[DJ's left nut]

JoePoe does some snoopin'

http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/201...s-edition.html

The Machine (Pujols Edition)
What has made Albert Pujols utterly amazing, of course, is that he has been a machine. This is so true that people call him "The Machine." Until his sorta-psuedo-semi struggles last year -- where he only ended up fifth in the MVP voting and hit less than .300 for the first time in his life -- you could not even IMAGINE him struggling.

Yes, of course, if you looked deeper, he had his struggles now and again. No man is a machine. He had his power outages. He had his injuries. He had his months where he stumbled. For instance there was July 2001, when he hit .241 with little power.

*But that little fact might kind of prove the point: If you don't include last year, I had to go back to his ROOKIE SEASON to find a month when he hit less than .250. Even last year, he only had one month when he did it -- he hit .245 in April.



But in large part, Pujols' career is defined by sheer relentlessness. His best season, great as it is, might not be quite as great as Ruth's best, Bonds' best, Mantle's best, Brett's best, Yaz's best, Mays' best, Ted Williams' best, Frank Robinson's best and so on. But with Pujols, it was always difficult to even pick which WAS his best season. Was it the year he hit .327 with 47 homers and led the league in on-base percentage and slugging percentage? Was it the year hit .359 with 51 doubles and 43 homers? Was it the year he hit .331, led the league in slugging, hit 49 homers and won the Gold Glove? Was it the year he hit .357, walked 100 times and led the league in total bases?

Was it … well, you get the point. They were all great. Every single one. It was a career like Aaron's or Musial's or Gehrig's -- an annual barrage of greatness.

And that's why Albert Pujols' April means something, I think. I'm not sure exactly what it means -- I do try to avoid falling for that temptress called Small Sample Size -- but it was the worst month of Albert Pujols' career. He did not hit a single home run. He could not get on base. He is in a new ballpark that is tougher on hitters than his old one. He's playing in a new league with different pitchers, perhaps a a few better ones. He's playing in front of new fans who do not love him as much as the old St. Louis fans did -- and why should they? He's playing under the hailstorm of a 10-year, $240 million contract. And, let's face it, he is 32 years old (while cynics snicker).

It means something, I think. Does it mean that Albert Pujols is done as a great player? Of course not. But baseball can be a cruel game. Cal Ripken never had a great season after age 30. Willie McCovey had his last great season at 32. AL Kaline's last great season was around 32 too. The years are harsher than people ever want to believe. And they turn in one direction.

I suspect that Pujols will soon have a stretch of hitting awesomeness that will blow the mind and once again remind America that he is Albert Pujols. And everyone will say, 'OK, Albert's as great as ever.' But it might not be that easy. I have this theory about age. Remember the McDonald's commercials about the McDLT which kept the "hot side hot and the cool side cool?" Jason Alexander was in one of those commercials. Anyway, I think that one thing that happens with age is that the hot side loses some of it's heat, and the cool side gets a little colder. I've been convinced that streaks and slumps are largely illusions of time and chance, but they still happen. The month Albert Pujols just had -- with a .265 on-base percentage -- was simply not a possibility for a 25-year-old Pujols, not over a 100 plate appearances.

And while he will undoubtedly have big stretches -- look at Derek Jeter's April -- how many of them does he have left? And how long will those stretches be? Does he have another 50-game streak in him where he hits .370/.450/650? How about a 40-game stretch? A 30-gamer?

I looked at Pujols' first 23 games every season of his career. Of course, it doesn't mean all that much. Six-sevenths of the season remains. But even if you just look at the first 23 games, Albert Pujols was a machine. He struggled a bit in the early going last year and also in 2007. But neither was anything like this year's start. And the other years are, well, Pujols-like.

Pujols told Jon Paul Morosi that he is not pressing, and that this is just the rhythm of baseball, and that he doesn't care what anybody says, and that his numbers will be there at the end of the year. These are exactly the things he should be saying. And these are exactly the things he should be believing.

But, he really does look helpless up there at the moment. It could be a passing thing. But I can never remember that happening before.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's great.

It's still a Dodgers town.

Thats great, except the Dodger fans are looked at like Raiders fans because their fan base has gotten a tad bit ghetto. So while it may be Dodger Town, Thats not necessarily a compliment. Also, and Im dont know how I feel about this but, Arte is in negotiations with AEG regarding building a stadium in downtown LA. He has an exit plan in 2015 (?) or in a few years, and he is either going to move the team to LA or is playing hardball with Anaheim. We will see.

Im frustrated as an Angels fan, cuz they ****ing suck right now, but AP is the last person Im worried about. He'll come around and be fine. Its our BLOWPEN that infuriates me.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by frazod

Pujols is pregnant? Damn, no wonder his game's in the shitter.

That was exactly my reaction.
Seriously though, I do beleive his wife and kids need to get to So Cal quick. Daddy needs to get laid. He's al pent up and shit.

[veist]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Thats great, except the Dodger fans are looked at like Raiders fans because their fan base has gotten a tad bit ghetto. So while it may be Dodger Town, Thats not necessarily a compliment. Also, and Im dont know how I feel about this but, Arte is in negotiations with AEG regarding building a stadium in downtown LA. He has an exit plan in 2015 (?) or in a few years, and he is either going to move the team to LA or is playing hardball with Anaheim. We will see.

Im frustrated as an Angels fan, cuz they ****ing suck right now, but AP is the last person Im worried about. He'll come around and be fine. Its our BLOWPEN that infuriates me.

You realize that this is the MLB you're talking about and they still haven't even worked out the deal for the A's to move to San Jose? I realize that is a thornier territorial rights issue there but they'd still put any move in "committee purgatory" for years after they actually started pursuing it. And that AEG has said before that they're not really interested in baseball because of the overlap with hockey and basketball, right?

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by veist

You realize that this is the MLB you're talking about and they still haven't even worked out the deal for the A's to move to San Jose? I realize that is a thornier territorial rights issue there but they'd still put any move in "committee purgatory" for years after they actually started pursuing it. And that AEG has said before that they're not really interested in baseball because of the overlap with hockey and basketball, right?

You do realize I dont just pull shit out of nowhere, right?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...0,290864.story

The Dodgers could not challenge an Angels move to Los Angeles, at least not in the way the San Francisco Giants are blocking the A's from moving to San Jose.

The Giants have exclusive territorial rights to San Jose. The Dodgers and Angels share an identical territory, including Los Angeles.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by veist

You realize that this is the MLB you're talking about and they still haven't even worked out the deal for the A's to move to San Jose? I realize that is a thornier territorial rights issue there but they'd still put any move in "committee purgatory" for years after they actually started pursuing it. And that AEG has said before that they're not really interested in baseball because of the overlap with hockey and basketball, right?

What happened? Dont have any condescending shit to say now? I love that...

[veist]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

You do realize I dont just pull shit out of nowhere, right?
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...0,290864.story

The Dodgers could not challenge an Angels move to Los Angeles, at least not in the way the San Francisco Giants are blocking the A's from moving to San Jose.

The Giants have exclusive territorial rights to San Jose. The Dodgers and Angels share an identical territory, including Los Angeles.

I'm not saying you're pulling it out of nowhere I'm saying that AEG has stated that they have no real interest in baseball numerous times. That doesn't mean they stupid and won't take a meeting with a rich guy that wants to talk them into being interested in baseball just that they would have to be talked into it. The more likely scenario is they're both covering their bases and doing their due diligence on the potential. And like I said, it wouldn't be as thorny an issue as San Jose but you can bet your ass it'd be a big ol' mess trying to do it with the MLB dragging the process out that's how they do shit.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by veist

I'm not saying you're pulling it out of nowhere I'm saying that AEG has stated that they have no real interest in baseball numerous times. That doesn't mean they stupid and won't take a meeting with a rich guy that wants to talk them into being interested in baseball just that they would have to be talked into it. The more likely scenario is they're both covering their bases and doing their due diligence on the potential. And like I said, it wouldn't be as thorny an issue as San Jose but you can bet your ass it'd be a big ol' mess trying to do it with the MLB dragging the process out that's how they do shit.

I agree that both parties are probably playing hardball with whoever they need to (Arte-Anaheim-AEG-NFL), but you could of posed your post a little condenscending, especially since 'you do realize" thats it is entriely possible for it to happen? This article is from 3 days ago, not last year.

Not sure I want it to tho.

[veist]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

I agree that both parties are probably playing hardball with whoever they need to (Arte-Anaheim-AEG-NFL), but you could of posed your post a little condenscending, especially since 'you do realize" thats it is entriely possible for it to happen? This article is from 3 days ago, not last year.

Not sure I want it to tho.

Its a leverage game, he wants a new stadium. The way he as an owner can minimize how much he pays for the shiny top of the line new stadium is by making them bid against _something_.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by veist

Its a leverage game, he wants a new stadium. The way he as an owner can minimize how much he pays for the shiny top of the line new stadium is by making them bid against _something_.

Agreed. I really hope Arte manages to get a sweet stadium by the beach in the OC or at least fat ass upgrade in Anaheim.

[BigRedChief]

Pujols was my favorite player in decades since the Gibby/Brock era. He will pull out of this. When he presses its a sad thing to watch. His happiness is always tied to success on the baseball field and also being pissed off about some mostly precieved slight.

I'm more saddened about Pujols leaving than pissed off. Not sad about Pujols or my team but for baseball. The Cardinals can afford a top ten payroll and it still didnt make financial sense to give him $225 million. Only 5 teams can afford the top 5 talent. MLB needs to look at the NFL and Green Bay, KC etc and see how it benefits everyone.

I was a fan a long time before Pujols was even born. Me and my 5th generation Cardinals fan son will be a fan long after his basball playing days are done. We have and always will be a fan of the birds on bat, not just the name on the back of the jersey.

[Frazod]

Personally, I hope he ends up being the biggest bust in the history of sports. Maybe it'll make the rest of these big market one who sucks the peniss think twice before offering ridiculous contracts like this.