Pyramid Schemes

[Two-Twenty]

My "friend" set me up by sending me to one of those prepaid legal shield hotel seminars.

I guess I understand that the only way to get people to go to these is to fool them.

I've been fooled like 5 times. Someone you're acquainted with calls you and says that you've just gotta come to this meeting right away...

Then you sit there for 2 hours listening to a guy tell you how to become a millionaire by getting others to work for you.

Should I aggressively confront him about sending me to this naivety convention?

Or should I just never talk to him again?

[Thig Lyfe]

This reminds me, would any of you guys like to buy a set of Cutco knives?

[Two-Twenty]

Originally Posted by whoman69

I read through this whole thread wondering why its a prayer request.

God help me

[rtmike]

I had another salesman come to the door the other day asking if anyone talked to me about construction for this new internet service. I lied & said yeah, my wife did.

He immediately switched gears & started in on switching over to them. I pointed @ the NO SOLICITING sign above the doorbell he just rang.

He said thanks & turned around & left.

Most times they just say they didn't see the sign. I don't usually answer the door anyways, I'd be pretty easy prey, prolly easier than elderly.

[Rain Man]

Does anyone else get cold calls for stocks? I occasionally get those at work, and I figure it's because I'm listed as the company owner.

Who on earth is going to buy stocks over the phone? I don't get it. I guess they're trying to get you to open an account with whoever they are, and it's always someone I've never heard of. So I'm going to send you $10,000 just because you found my phone number? Really?

It seems to me like anyone who buys stock is already going to have a brokerage account, and getting a call is just weird.

The last call I got, the guy tells me he's got a hot stock, and says, "What kind of business are you in?" I said, "Market research. Have you ever done any research on why cold calls aren't a good business development tool?" He said they were great and he gets all sorts of business from them, so I told him I'd let him get back to work.

Now, I was kind of shooting from the hip, and I really don't know. Does anyone here do cold call sales, and does it actually work?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Does anyone else get cold calls for stocks? I occasionally get those at work, and I figure it's because I'm listed as the company owner.

Who on earth is going to buy stocks over the phone? I don't get it. I guess they're trying to get you to open an account with whoever they are, and it's always someone I've never heard of. So I'm going to send you $10,000 just because you found my phone number? Really?

It seems to me like anyone who buys stock is already going to have a brokerage account, and getting a call is just weird.

The last call I got, the guy tells me he's got a hot stock, and says, "What kind of business are you in?" I said, "Market research. Have you ever done any research on why cold calls aren't a good business development tool?" He said they were great and he gets all sorts of business from them, so I told him I'd let him get back to work.

Now, I was kind of shooting from the hip, and I really don't know. Does anyone here do cold call sales, and does it actually work?

I have mentioned this very thing on here before Kevin. Their favorite line, "remember me, we talked a couple months ago and you told me to call you back, and I told you about ****. Have you been following it? I have a better opportunity right now!"

I haven't let them past the first 4 words in years. ***click***

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Now, I was kind of shooting from the hip, and I really don't know. Does anyone here do cold call sales, and does it actually work?

It works at the bar.

[NewChief]

Door-to-door:

I think I posted about this before, but my wife works from home all day long. As such, she has had to frequently deal with these bastards. Her usual ploy is just to not come to the door. Unfortunately, she's had some cagey ones that lurk around until she answers the door for the FedEx man (we get frequent packages delivered) then spring themselves on her. She had real issues getting rid of these guys in the past, even allowing them to get inside the house then being unable to get them back out of the house without buying shit from them.

I finally got a chance to show her how it was done with a home security asshole. I was around back working and heard the dog go crazy only to come around front and see my wife talking to this young ADT rep (or some home security door to door douchebag). He's trying to tell her that they want to put in a "free" security system for us, and he's steadily working his way to the door, trying to get inside the house to "show her how quick and easy it is for them to install."

I walk up. "Hey man. What's up?"
"Oh! I was just talking with your wife about our great security offer and how we're trying to make inroads into your neighborhood and how we're willing to do this for free..."
"Free? How much a month."
"No sir. It's free. We're trying to promote our brand in your neighborhood, and a sign in the front yard will do that, so we can offer this for..."
"How much a month, dude."
"No sir... our installation is totally free."
"So you're telling me that there is no monthly fee?"
"Well..."
"That's what I thought. Not interested. Bye."
"But sir..."
"Leave. Now."

I think between that time and the time I went nuts calling the police from the creepy cleaner salesman who complimented my wife on our back yard and addition (which isn't visible from the street), she's finally figured out it's best just to shut the door in their face.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

My "friend" set me up by sending me to one of those prepaid legal shield hotel seminars.

I guess I understand that the only way to get people to go to these is to fool them.

I've been fooled like 5 times. Someone you're acquainted with calls you and says that you've just gotta come to this meeting right away...

Then you sit there for 2 hours listening to a guy tell you how to become a millionaire by getting others to work for you.

Should I aggressively confront him about sending me to this naivety convention?

Or should I just never talk to him again?

I've got a better idea. Meet me at the Ramada Inn conference room in Overland Park in two hours and I'll tell you about it.

[Ace Gunner]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Door-to-door:

I think I posted about this before, but my wife works from home all day long. As such, she has had to frequently deal with these bastards. Her usual ploy is just to not come to the door. Unfortunately, she's had some cagey ones that lurk around until she answers the door for the FedEx man (we get frequent packages delivered) then spring themselves on her. She had real issues getting rid of these guys in the past, even allowing them to get inside the house then being unable to get them back out of the house without buying shit from them.

I finally got a chance to show her how it was done with a home security asshole. I was around back working and heard the dog go crazy only to come around front and see my wife talking to this young ADT rep (or some home security door to door douchebag). He's trying to tell her that they want to put in a "free" security system for us, and he's steadily working his way to the door, trying to get inside the house to "show her how quick and easy it is for them to install."

I walk up. "Hey man. What's up?"
"Oh! I was just talking with your wife about our great security offer and how we're trying to make inroads into your neighborhood and how we're willing to do this for free..."
"Free? How much a month."
"No sir. It's free. We're trying to promote our brand in your neighborhood, and a sign in the front yard will do that, so we can offer this for..."
"How much a month, dude."
"No sir... our installation is totally free."
"So you're telling me that there is no monthly fee?"
"Well..."
"That's what I thought. Not interested. Bye."
"But sir..."
"Leave. Now."

I think between that time and the time I went nuts calling the police from the creepy cleaner salesman who complimented my wife on our back yard and addition (which isn't visible from the street), she's finally figured out it's best just to shut the door in their face.

imagine your wife is a single parent. now imagine how many single parents there are in america. ya. ching.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by NewChief

Door-to-door:

I think I posted about this before, but my wife works from home all day long. As such, she has had to frequently deal with these bastards. Her usual ploy is just to not come to the door. Unfortunately, she's had some cagey ones that lurk around until she answers the door for the FedEx man (we get frequent packages delivered) then spring themselves on her. She had real issues getting rid of these guys in the past, even allowing them to get inside the house then being unable to get them back out of the house without buying shit from them.

I finally got a chance to show her how it was done with a home security asshole. I was around back working and heard the dog go crazy only to come around front and see my wife talking to this young ADT rep (or some home security door to door douchebag). He's trying to tell her that they want to put in a "free" security system for us, and he's steadily working his way to the door, trying to get inside the house to "show her how quick and easy it is for them to install."

I walk up. "Hey man. What's up?"
"Oh! I was just talking with your wife about our great security offer and how we're trying to make inroads into your neighborhood and how we're willing to do this for free..."
"Free? How much a month."
"No sir. It's free. We're trying to promote our brand in your neighborhood, and a sign in the front yard will do that, so we can offer this for..."
"How much a month, dude."
"No sir... our installation is totally free."
"So you're telling me that there is no monthly fee?"
"Well..."
"That's what I thought. Not interested. Bye."
"But sir..."
"Leave. Now."

I think between that time and the time I went nuts calling the police from the creepy cleaner salesman who complimented my wife on our back yard and addition (which isn't visible from the street), she's finally figured out it's best just to shut the door in their face.

There's no requirement to be polite or even civil to a pushy salesman at the door. Especially somebody that elbows their way in to my home without being invited, I have no patience for that.

Step 1. Tell them to get off your property.
Step 2. Call the cops and report them for trespassing.

Someone inviting themselves in when your wife is home alone, I wouldn't have any sense of humor about that shit. I consider that a safety issue that I would take very seriously.

[Demonpenz]

If you are sure the guy is straight, give the guy a long hug, for extra points have a roll of quarters in your pocket.

[NewChief]

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

There's no requirement to be polite or even civil to a pushy salesman at the door. Especially somebody that elbows their way in to my home without being invited, I have no patience for that.

Step 1. Tell them to get off your property.
Step 2. Call the cops and report them for trespassing.

Someone inviting themselves in when your wife is home alone, I wouldn't have any sense of humor about that shit. I consider that a safety issue that I would take very seriously.

Yup. That was the talk we had after the cleaner salesman who was creepy as hell (see comments about the back yard), but still managed to get into our house. I went absolutely ballistic about it (I often exhibit the wrong emotion when I'm scared for my wife) and was pretty freaking angry with her. Also called the cops and went ballistic with them warning them about these creepy bastards when they said they couldn't do anything about it without a complaint about them while they were going door to door. I eventually calmed down enough to explain to my wife that it scares the shit out of me that these creepy ****ers are able to get into our house with her here alone in the middle of the day.

I think that impressed upon her that it wasn't acceptable. Then when the opportunity presented itself with the home security salesman, I was able to show her how to get rid of them.

[Two-Twenty]

ACTUAL TEXT

"Friend": Are u busy?
Idiot (me): Hey what's up
F: What's your schedule like tonight?
I: Semi open, what's up?
F: I want you to meet up with one of my mentors whose helping me build my film production co
I: what time?
F: Sportsmen's Lodge 12825 Ventura blvd studio city at 7pm
I: I'll let you know
F: let me know now within the next 20 minutes. I want to know if you're in.
Idiot (me): ok dude, see u at 7

He's still calling me. Looks like I don't have the luxury of passive aggressiveness. I gotta tell this guy off.

Prayer request

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Two-Twenty

ACTUAL TEXT

"Friend": Are u busy?
Idiot (me): Hey what's up
F: What's your schedule like tonight?
I: Semi open, what's up?
F: I want you to meet up with one of my mentors whose helping me build my film production co
I: what time?
F: Sportsmen's Lodge 12825 Ventura blvd studio city at 7pm
I: I'll let you know
F: let me know now within the next 20 minutes. I want to know if you're in.
Idiot (me): ok dude, see u at 7

He's still calling me. Looks like I don't have the luxury of passive aggressiveness. I gotta tell this guy off.

Prayer request