Chiefs If we could have an improvement right now with the Chiefs... - Page 4

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2013, 01:16 PM

...where would it be?

Poll to follow. You get to pick one unit. And unit is a funny word when you really think about it. Unit, unit, unit. It sounds like an alien word that we got from Roswell.

But I digress. Poll to follow.

The Rules:

Assume that we could get an incremental improvement of, say 10 to 15 percent. We're not talking about replacing our unit with a Hall of Fame unit. Just a bump in performance.

scho63 · 11-18-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya

Alex Smith hasn't been horrible... his receivers and OL have been.

This is the correct answer

Our O line followed by our receivers-they are both competing very evenly for the "Suck of the Year" award.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-18-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I don't know either, but its definitely too many.

They just flat out aren't physical, but they're not finesse either... its awful, i sure hope we can get some big, mean HOSS mfers next year.

Reid should be spreading out the defense in goal line situations to create running lanes for the back or Smith himself.

He's been patently predictable in those situations.

**Bwana** · 11-18-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks

Oline and wide receivers. No question in mind.

This

scho63 · 11-18-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Reid should be spreading out the defense in goal line situations to create running lanes for the back or Smith himself.

He's been patently predictable in those situations.

Why the hell didn't we try at least ONE pass on the first and goal from the two?

That baffles the hell out of me.

**Easy 6** · 11-18-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Reid should be spreading out the defense in goal line situations to create running lanes for the back or Smith himself.

He's been patently predictable in those situations.

I can only think of one play near the goal line (against Houston iirc) where we did spread them out and had all kinds of motion and shifts... lo and behold JC ran in basically untouched.

Better scheme would certainly help, but i still hate this ineffectual line... if they could just do one thing right it'd help tremendously.

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

Why the hell didn't we try at least ONE pass on the first and goal from the two?

That baffles the hell out of me.

I'll hesitantly say that I like running straight up the middle on first and goal from the two. If you can't make two yards in three plays, it's telling.

If you don't do that, then a quarterback option. I love quarterback options inside the five. I'm not a huge fan of passing inside the five. The field's too compressed.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-18-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

I can only think of one play near the goal line (against Houston iirc) where we did spread them out and had all kinds of motion and shifts... lo and behold JC ran in basically untouched.

Better scheme would certainly help, but i still hate this ineffectual line... if they could just do one thing right it'd help tremendously.

I've been saying since game one that this offensive line is struggling (if not outright ineffective) in the interior. But in Game Ten, Reid should know the strengths and limitations of his offensive line and adjust accordingly.

His playcalling in goal line situations (and often in the Red Zone, period) have been uncreative and at times, excruciating to watch. While they certainly have issues with the receivers and tight ends (and QB ball delivery), Reid hasn't been helping matters much.

He seems to be coaching as if he's got Jackson, Maclin, Shady and Celek instead of Bowe, Avery, Charles and Fasano. In other words, he's not calling plays suitable for his personnel.

ChiefsCountry · 11-18-2013, 02:37 PM

Alex Smith is taking sacks like he always does. His whole career he has averaged 2.5 sacks per game. He actually took more under Harbaugh than he did in the suck years in San Fran.

ThaVirus · 11-18-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'll hesitantly say that I like running straight up the middle on first and goal from the two. If you can't make two yards in three plays, it's telling.

If you don't do that, then a quarterback option. I love quarterback options inside the five. I'm not a huge fan of passing inside the five. The field's too compressed.

This is what it comes down to for me. I liked the three straight run calls. If Aaron Rodgers was our QB? **** no, you need to mix in a pass or two.

With Alex Smith, though, and our offensive line, you're really risking a huge sack in that situation.

TheUte · 11-18-2013, 02:38 PM

Trick question, 15% improvement in O-line would equate to 15% improvement for QB and WR.

ThaVirus · 11-18-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

See what he's got?

JFC, you dildo, giving players reps has absolutely nothing to do with showing fans "what he's got". Either the coaches feel comfortable with his knowledge of the protections, his fumbling issue, etc. or they don't.

Head coaches in the NFL don't just don't say "Okay, kid. Let's see what you've got!".

Until you can simulate live game situations in practice, this is just wrong.

I agree that they don't just throw a player out there blindly. "Hey, kid, let's see if you can make some shit happen!". I'm saying you never know how a guy will produce until he does so in actual games. As he's only averaged 2.4 touches per game, we don't really know how he'll produce if given a heavier work load. Hence the, "we need to see what the kid can do".

**Easy 6** · 11-18-2013, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've been saying since game one that this offensive line is struggling (if not outright ineffective) in the interior. But in Game Ten, Reid should know the strengths and limitations of his offensive line and adjust accordingly.

His playcalling in goal line situations (and often in the Red Zone, period) have been uncreative and at times, excruciating to watch. While they certainly have issues with the receivers and tight ends (and QB ball delivery), Reid hasn't been helping matters much.

He seems to be coaching as if he's got Jackson, Maclin, Shady and Celek instead of Bowe, Avery, Charles and Fasano. In other words, he's not calling plays suitable for his personnel.

Its true, he hasn't been very creative down there, i expected better from him in that regard.

Sandy Vagina · 11-18-2013, 02:46 PM

OL .. and it isn't even close.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-18-2013, 02:47 PM

I think it was peter kings article that said Reid walked into meetings with a spring in his step and Pedersen and Childress have bags under their eyes. I think those two serve a much bigger purpose than people realize. But in the end, players have to execute.

TEX · 11-18-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

OL .. and it isn't even close.

This

View Poll Results: A 10 to 15 percent improvement would be best in ...
Our running backs	1	0.52%
Our quarterbacks	65	33.85%
Our receivers and tight ends	56	29.17%
Our offensive line	62	32.29%
Our kicking/punting specialists	0	0%
Our kick/punt coverage and blocking	0	0%
Our kick/punt returning	0	0%
Our defensive backs	1	0.52%
Our linebackers	0	0%
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Our coaching	1	0.52%
Our cheerleaders	1	0.52%
Our trainers and equipment managers	1	0.52%
Our fans	2	1.04%
Other (please specify)	2	1.04%
We don't need improvement in any area.	0	0%
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11-18-2013, 01:16 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-452449 VARSITY	If we could have an improvement right now with the Chiefs... ...where would it be? Poll to follow. You get to pick one unit. And unit is a funny word when you really think about it. Unit, unit, unit. It sounds like an alien word that we got from Roswell. But I digress. Poll to follow. The Rules: Assume that we could get an incremental improvement of, say 10 to 15 percent. We're not talking about replacing our unit with a Hall of Fame unit. Just a bump in performance.
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11-18-2013, 02:37 PM	#53
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1361248	Alex Smith is taking sacks like he always does. His whole career he has averaged 2.5 sacks per game. He actually took more under Harbaugh than he did in the suck years in San Fran.
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11-18-2013, 02:38 PM	#55
TheUte Veteran Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10014498	Trick question, 15% improvement in O-line would equate to 15% improvement for QB and WR.
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11-18-2013, 02:47 PM	#59
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1545503	I think it was peter kings article that said Reid walked into meetings with a spring in his step and Pedersen and Childress have bags under their eyes. I think those two serve a much bigger purpose than people realize. But in the end, players have to execute.
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