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Old 02-26-2014, 11:47 AM  
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"The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz ... will likely sign elsewhere."
So says the guy who runs draftinsider.net, Tony Pauline, talking to people all week at the Combine:

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I'm told Branden Albert may not be the only veteran offensive lineman out the door in Kansas City. The way it looks now back-up Geoff Schwartz, who received heavy interest at the combine, will likely sign elsewhere.

Follow Tony Pauline @TonyPauline.
He's also reporting the rumor that the Raiders want to try to re-sign McFadden, but they are unlikely to pull it off.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:07 PM   #31
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Wouldn't even be close. Johnson was dominant against the Chargers, and Watkins got his shit pushed in.

As BossChief would tell you, the REAL competition here is between Johnson and Kush.
You reference Bosschief a lot, like that's supposed to mean something.

No offense meant to BC but why the **** would his opinion decide anything?

why would Johnson and Kush be competing? I haven't heard anything about Kush moving from center. Maybe Kush winning the center job and pushing Hudson out to compete at guard.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:09 PM   #32
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:10 PM   #33
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You reference Bosschief a lot, like that's supposed to mean something.

No offense meant to BC but why the **** would his opinion decide anything?

why would Johnson and Kush be competing? I haven't heard anything about Kush moving from center.
Just giving credit where it's due. BossChief's been on the "move Hudson to guard and start Kush at center" train longer than seemingly everyone.

Hudson would be fine at either center or guard -- the question is, who's better at their position, Johnson at RG, or Eric Kush at C?

My hope is that they'll resolve the issue that way instead of spending a high draft pick or spending money in FA.

If we're going to let our best guard walk, then gimme that compensatory pick.
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2014 base salaries for guards:

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/guard/

I know these don't tell the whole story about the kind of contracts the players are signing, but they're an indicator of the average.

Direckshun threw out a 3 years 8 million figure. Plus the signing bonus, that'd average out to 3-3.5 million a year for Schwartz. That puts him in the range of Louis Vasquez, Dan Connolly, Todd Herremans, Chris Chester, TJ Lang, and Donald Thomas (22-17)

I don't know about everyone else, but with the market as it is and the way Schwartz played once he took over for Asamoah full-time, I'd be willing to do that and more.

In this case, I'm all in favor of throwing money at the problem instead of draft picks. Keep Rishaw Johnson and Rok Watkins hungry for Jeff Allen's job. Mix competition with chemistry. It's about time we fixed the offensive line once and for all.
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2014 base salaries for guards:

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/guard/

I know these don't tell the whole story about the kind of contracts the players are signing, but they're an indicator of the average.

Direckshun threw out a 3 years 8 million figure. Plus the signing bonus, that'd average out to 3-3.5 million a year for Schwartz. That puts him in the range of Louis Vasquez, Dan Connolly, Todd Herremans, Chris Chester, TJ Lang, and Donald Thomas (22-17)

I don't know about everyone else, but with the market as it is and the way Schwartz played once he took over for Asamoah full-time, I'd be willing to do that and more.

In this case, I'm all in favor of throwing money at the problem instead of draft picks. Keep Rishaw Johnson and Rok Watkins hungry for Jeff Allen's job. Mix competition with chemistry. It's about time we fixed the offensive line once and for all.
Losing Albert and Schwartz in the same offseason? Talk about a huge, gaping leadership void.
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Just giving credit where it's due. BossChief's been on the "move Hudson to guard and start Kush at center" train longer than seemingly everyone.

Hudson would be fine at either center or guard -- the question is, who's better at their position, Johnson at RG, or Eric Kush at C?

My hope is that they'll resolve the issue that way instead of spending a high draft pick or spending money in FA.

If we're going to let our best guard walk, then gimme that compensatory pick.
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I don't want to lose Schwartz but i don't think it's the end of the word. I think we have some talent to move around. If Kush wins the center job then Hudson can play guard. That backup looked really good against the Chargers and he might step up. Looked like he had decent power. If both things happen them maybe Allen gets bumped to swing tackle.
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Yeah, I re-watched that Chargers game like four times.

Rishaw Johnson looked like a seasoned pro. Dominated his guy most of the game.

Chiefs were incredibly smart to take that Chargers game and try out their backups.
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Losing Albert and Schwartz in the same offseason? Talk about a huge, gaping leadership void.
leadership is a big loss
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leadership is a big loss
Yeah. :/

Honestly, this Chiefs team needs leadership as much (if not more) than they need any particular position.

Fact: great leadership makes everybody play better. A void of leadership makes everybody play worse (see: the Matt Cassel years).

Albert and Schwartz are not "great" leaders, but their absence does create a void.
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I'm sorry, but losing a guard who has been on the roster for literally less than a calendar year is not going to create a massive leadership void.
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I'm sorry, but losing a guard who has been on the roster for literally less than a calendar year is not going to create a massive leadership void.
Two facts:

1. The Chiefs have zero leadership on offense outside of Alex Smith, Branden Albert and Schwartz.

2. Geoff Schwartz was incredibly popular and outspoken in the locker room.
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