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Direckshun · 10-19-2014, 11:04 PM

I'm just a casual fan; I'm sure a big-timer like Rams Fan will get in here and correct me where ever he thinks I'm wrong.

The Rams, like seemingly everybody else, are battered by injuries, but they've actually recovered from them fairly well. They just got off winning a dreamer against the Seahawks, thanks in part to a couple ridiculous plays they won't be able to replicate (that crazy punt return, the 4th down fake punt).

They're not a team to scoff at, however.

Austin Davis is a sneaky good QB out of Southern Miss. He's been putting up really good numbers, completing 66% of his passes and has only put up one INT the last two weeks against the Seahawks and the 49ers. That's saying something.

Of course, he benefits from what is now a pretty damn good run game. They are stacked at RB. I've been high on Tre Mason ever since I saw him last year at Auburn, and he looks like a very tough runner who can hit a hole hard. They also have Benny Cunningham who looks even better, and of course Zac Stacy. Wow -- there's not a lot of teams that I think can run better than the Chiefs, but this team is just as good.

Thanks in part to the power of the OL. Roger Saffold sucked at tackle, but he's done very well at guard. Jake Long is also a #1 overall LT, and Joe Barksdale is a favorite of mine from LSU at RT. Davin Joseph I believe was a hell of a guard at Tampa, right? He's RG.

The Rams' offensive weapons is a veritable Who's Who of guys that aren't particularly dominant, but are all capable of a really good game and the occasional brilliant play: Austin Davis, Kenny Britt, Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Brian Quick, Austin Pettis, Stedman Bailey... There is not a weak talent in the bunch there, and it's a deep squad that will challenge your NCB and dime backs. Not a great matchup considering how thin we're getting in the secondary...

Of course, the strength of their team is DL. Chris Long is out, but they have one of the best passrushers in the league in Robert Quinn. Aaron Donald will absolutely embarrass whatever guard he's up against, and Michael Brockers and Eugene Sims are very capable too. The Rams have not been getting to the QB this season, but do not take that to mean that they can't -- they got like 3 or 4 sacks today against Russell ****ing Wilson.

They have some brilliant talent at LB -- Alec Ogletree and James Laurinitis are not surprise talents to anybody. I don't know who mans that other OLB spot, I think it's some guy named Dunbar, but yeah. Laurinitis is one of those "always around the ball" types and Ogletree is a crazy athlete.

Corner is the potential weak spot on their defense -- if, of course, we had any WR talent to exploit it. But they're starting rookie EJ Gaines on one side, many of the Missouri folks here are familiar with him, and Janoris Jenkins looks like he's a goner this week, and maybe for the season. I have no idea who they'll start there, but I'm underwhelmed by their options.

I like how this McLeod kid is playing at safety, but I don't like any of their other talents. I'm not too familiar, however, and I'll let someone like Rams Fan set us straight.

They have Legatron kicking kicks, so as long as they can get to midfield, they can nickel and dime FGs all day on us.

I had this game marked down as a sure win at the start of the year. But now it's clear that this is going to be a surprisingly tough game.

Wallcrawler · 10-19-2014, 11:55 PM

Not sure what Davis has done this season but against the Seahawks he was basically Alex Smith. He was like 13/14 for 77 yards and a td at one point, and then on the drive where they scored their final TD, they finally opened it up and he hit guys for 14, 18, and 38 yards through the air.

They keep the reigns on him apparently due to some poor decisions that led to their lead against the niners getting blown, and against the Seahawks today he was serviceable and did enough to win the game when it was needed, but for 3 and 1/2 quarters, it was all checkdowns.

tk13 · 10-19-2014, 11:59 PM

The Chiefs have not lost to the Rams since 1994. They haven't played each other in Arrowhead since 2002. Over the last four meetings, the Chiefs have outscored the Rams 161-74. We'll need to score 40 points to maintain that pace.

Direckshun · 10-20-2014, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

The Chiefs need to score more than the Rams.

FYP

OldSchool · 10-20-2014, 12:20 AM

Davis hasn't played an away game at a stadium like Arrowhead. His game against the Hawks was at home.

Direckshun · 10-21-2014, 01:55 PM

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ams-highlights

Highlights from the last Chiefs-Rams game. Enjoy all the Cassely goodness.

Hammock Parties · 10-21-2014, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ams-highlights

Highlights from the last Chiefs-Rams game. Enjoy all the Cassely goodness.

One of our best road wins of the Pioli era.

Fanbase got all lovey on post-appendix Matty.

**Easy 6** · 10-21-2014, 02:10 PM

I agree with Clay for once, this is a big trap game... this team is not to be overlooked.

Fisher always has a physical, tough team.

Direckshun · 10-21-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

I agree with Clay for once, this is a big trap game... this team is not to be overlooked.

Fisher always has a physical, tough team.

I think they can run on us.

I don't think they can pass on us, and I really don't know how they stop our offense.

We should be able to run and pass all over them.

Frosty · 10-21-2014, 02:26 PM

Reid needs to go full Marty with this one.

Last week in the first half, Wilson kept dropping back and was under constant pressure. In the second half, they started pounding it on the ground and got back in the game as they wore down the Rams' d-line. Rams' LBers didn't look very good so if you could get past the d-line, it was chunks of yards.

B_Ambuehl · 10-21-2014, 02:32 PM

The Rams are close to being a dominant football team. They have freakish talent at every position group besides QB and safety. In recent weeks they've had 14+ point leads against 3 of the best teams in the NFL: Dallas, SF, & Seattle. That says something.

Their problem is they're still very young, play in a VERY aggressive defensive scheme (Greg Williams is their d-coordinator) and make a number of huge mental errors every game, usually overpursuing plays, biting on underneath routes leaving guys wide open down the field etc. That's generally not a good thing going against an Andy Reid offense with a Jamal Charles and mobile QB that doesn't turn the ball over. They also have a terrible unimaginative offensive playcaller in Brian Schottenheimer.

This game is tailor made for Alex Suck to do his thing completing checkdowns, scrambling for a few yards off bootlegs, and generally just playing a boring game taking care of the football. If he does that you'll should be ok.

**Easy 6** · 10-21-2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I think they can run on us.

I don't think they can pass on us, and I really don't know how they stop our offense.

We should be able to run and pass all over them.

I wouldnt be so sure they cant pass on us, they didnt ask him to throw a lot vs Seattle but he was hyper effecient when he did... 18/21 2 td.

And of course our secondary is a far cry from Seattles.

**Ming the Merciless** · 10-21-2014, 02:50 PM

Hopefully Austin Davis gets a taste of some high decibel level frustration and we can pressure and sack his ass...

It could be a long day if not or if we look past this game....

My guess

Chiefs 21
Rams 14

Direckshun · 10-21-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

I wouldnt be so sure they cant pass on us, they didnt ask him to throw a lot vs Seattle but he was hyper effecient when he did... 18/21 2 td.

And of course our secondary is a far cry from Seattles.

That's a great point.

Seattle didn't generate an ounce of pressure, though... I'd have to believe we can do better.

**Easy 6** · 10-21-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Hopefully Austin Davis gets a taste of some high decibel level frustration and we can pressure and sack his ass...

It could be a long day if not or if we look past this game....

My guess

Chiefs 21
Rams 14

That noisy road atmosphere is our best hope, if it worked against Brady it should work on this kid.

I just hope we play as aggressively as we did that game, keep him on his heels.

Hoover · 10-21-2014, 02:55 PM

Had the Rams lost to Seattle, I'd be worried, but I like our chances with them coming to our house.

10-19-2014, 11:04 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Let's talk about the Rams. I'm just a casual fan; I'm sure a big-timer like Rams Fan will get in here and correct me where ever he thinks I'm wrong. The Rams, like seemingly everybody else, are battered by injuries, but they've actually recovered from them fairly well. They just got off winning a dreamer against the Seahawks, thanks in part to a couple ridiculous plays they won't be able to replicate (that crazy punt return, the 4th down fake punt). They're not a team to scoff at, however. Austin Davis is a sneaky good QB out of Southern Miss. He's been putting up really good numbers, completing 66% of his passes and has only put up one INT the last two weeks against the Seahawks and the 49ers. That's saying something. Of course, he benefits from what is now a pretty damn good run game. They are stacked at RB. I've been high on Tre Mason ever since I saw him last year at Auburn, and he looks like a very tough runner who can hit a hole hard. They also have Benny Cunningham who looks even better, and of course Zac Stacy. Wow -- there's not a lot of teams that I think can run better than the Chiefs, but this team is just as good. Thanks in part to the power of the OL. Roger Saffold sucked at tackle, but he's done very well at guard. Jake Long is also a #1 overall LT, and Joe Barksdale is a favorite of mine from LSU at RT. Davin Joseph I believe was a hell of a guard at Tampa, right? He's RG. The Rams' offensive weapons is a veritable Who's Who of guys that aren't particularly dominant, but are all capable of a really good game and the occasional brilliant play: Austin Davis, Kenny Britt, Jared Cook, Lance Kendricks, Brian Quick, Austin Pettis, Stedman Bailey... There is not a weak talent in the bunch there, and it's a deep squad that will challenge your NCB and dime backs. Not a great matchup considering how thin we're getting in the secondary... Of course, the strength of their team is DL. Chris Long is out, but they have one of the best passrushers in the league in Robert Quinn. Aaron Donald will absolutely embarrass whatever guard he's up against, and Michael Brockers and Eugene Sims are very capable too. The Rams have not been getting to the QB this season, but do not take that to mean that they can't -- they got like 3 or 4 sacks today against Russell ****ing Wilson. They have some brilliant talent at LB -- Alec Ogletree and James Laurinitis are not surprise talents to anybody. I don't know who mans that other OLB spot, I think it's some guy named Dunbar, but yeah. Laurinitis is one of those "always around the ball" types and Ogletree is a crazy athlete. Corner is the potential weak spot on their defense -- if, of course, we had any WR talent to exploit it. But they're starting rookie EJ Gaines on one side, many of the Missouri folks here are familiar with him, and Janoris Jenkins looks like he's a goner this week, and maybe for the season. I have no idea who they'll start there, but I'm underwhelmed by their options. I like how this McLeod kid is playing at safety, but I don't like any of their other talents. I'm not too familiar, however, and I'll let someone like Rams Fan set us straight. They have Legatron kicking kicks, so as long as they can get to midfield, they can nickel and dime FGs all day on us. I had this game marked down as a sure win at the start of the year. But now it's clear that this is going to be a surprisingly tough game.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1847500	The Chiefs have not lost to the Rams since 1994. They haven't played each other in Arrowhead since 2002. Over the last four meetings, the Chiefs have outscored the Rams 161-74. We'll need to score 40 points to maintain that pace.
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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ams-highlights Highlights from the last Chiefs-Rams game. Enjoy all the Cassely goodness.
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Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Washington Casino cash: $3388243	Reid needs to go full Marty with this one. Last week in the first half, Wilson kept dropping back and was under constant pressure. In the second half, they started pounding it on the ground and got back in the game as they wore down the Rams' d-line. Rams' LBers didn't look very good so if you could get past the d-line, it was chunks of yards.
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B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9705405	The Rams are close to being a dominant football team. They have freakish talent at every position group besides QB and safety. In recent weeks they've had 14+ point leads against 3 of the best teams in the NFL: Dallas, SF, & Seattle. That says something. Their problem is they're still very young, play in a VERY aggressive defensive scheme (Greg Williams is their d-coordinator) and make a number of huge mental errors every game, usually overpursuing plays, biting on underneath routes leaving guys wide open down the field etc. That's generally not a good thing going against an Andy Reid offense with a Jamal Charles and mobile QB that doesn't turn the ball over. They also have a terrible unimaginative offensive playcaller in Brian Schottenheimer. This game is tailor made for Alex Suck to do his thing completing checkdowns, scrambling for a few yards off bootlegs, and generally just playing a boring game taking care of the football. If he does that you'll should be ok. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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