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Old 11-02-2014, 08:19 PM  
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Let's talk about the ****ing Bills.

This one is huge, people. If you didn't already know, and aren't already reading along in the two threads we're discussing this, this one could be for an NFL tiebreaker. Plus, it is a game we need to win so that we don't have to beat the league's most talented teams later to compensate.

The Bills are 5-3. We are 5-3. This, for all intents and purposes, is a playoff game. And it's in ****ing Buffalo, a place where they're almost as starved for playoff success as we are. Even worse, they're coming off a bye.

What the hell happened in Buffalo? This team was a hopeless dope of a franchise for years. They were awful last year. Now, they're suddenly competent and possibly even good? Without a running game??? What??

I'll tell you what happened. Kyle ****ing Orton happened. All of a sudden, the Bills have a QB who doesn't Belcher their entire chance at success. Orton can, you know, actually pass the ball, can adequately read defenses, and doesn't make gargantuan ****ing mistakes like EJ Manuel and Jeff Tuel did. And prepare yourself for this week, because Claythan is going to be blowing Orton all week and it's going to be ridiculous.

Orton's having a very good year by his standards, but there's two major catches to his success:
  • The Bills do not have a run game, and therefore depend on Orton for their offensive success.
  • He is still Kyle Orton.
That means you can expect Orton's effectiveness to evaporate like a Chiefs fan's hopes and dreams when he's under pressure. You can also expect him to struggle squeezing the ball into tight windows, which is why Orton has historically been terrible in the red zone.

He's been better this year in the red zone, but still nobody's idea of a world beater. The primary reason he's been getting some success is because they have their own Percy Harvin, which we apparently struggle mightily with, named Sammie Watkins. This Watkins kid isn't the polished route-runner that Harvin is, but he's bigger and every bit as athletic. He can absolutely torch people, and the Chiefs need to have this asshole on lockdown.

After that, they have several nice, adequate weapons in supporting roles. I've always really liked Scott Chandler at TE, and angled a few years back for the Chiefs to pick him up in FA. Mike Williams is a big WR who had a super productive year in Tampa and can still have a big catch from time to time, Robert Woods is a smooth route runner, and Marquise Goodwin is a re-****ing-diculous speedster.

At RB, it's a mess. Fred Jackson has missed time, and will probably be out. CJ Spiller is dead. Their lead RB, and this is true, is a guy named Boobie Dixon. Also known as Anthony Dixon, he was a 245 lbs, fatass plodder that the 49ers could never find use for. He's meh. They also have Bryce Brown, who is alright.

I really like their OL, which is a reason Orton's been able to sling it fairly well. Cordy Glenn is a ridiculous monster athlete of a LT, but he's still learning and is very young. Seantrel Henderson is another extremely large, very athletic tackle at RT, just a great pair of gigantic athletes there. Erik Wood is a decent, capable center, nothing special, but I don't know much about how Cyril Richardson and Erik Pears are playing at guard. Maybe we've got some New Englanders here who can enlighten us.

So that's a capable offense. But the defense is why they are 5-3.

This defensive line is impossible. Mario Williams is not the game changer he once was, but he gets his off the edge. The middle of the DL is probably the best the NFL has to offer: Marcel Dareus and Kyle Williams are ****ing impossible. They disrupt anything and everything, and are ferocious against the pass (Dareus has SEVEN SACKS) and the run. Shit... is about to get real. Off the other edge they have Jerry Hughes, a former 1st round bust who is off pace to notch 11 sack this year. This DL is the worst.

I don't know anything about Nigel Bradham at OLB, who apparently leads their team in tackles. Keith Rivers is injured again, so they play rookie Preston Brown at the other OLB spot -- Brown is not terribly athletic, but is a sound tackler. They have Brandon Spikes at ILB, the epitome of slow and heady.

Expect a heavy dosage of Stephon Gilmore on Bowe. Gilmore is a physical, smart corner who is a true #1 CB. Leonis McKelvin is a former 1st round bust -- great athlete, but very average at the #2 CB position -- which is probably enough against our poverty receiving corps.

Aaron Williams has been reborn as a very good safety in Buffalo after playing poorly as a CB early in his career. I don't know a damn thing about Da'Norris Searcy but his stats indicate a jack of all trades, and a master of none.

This is one of those games you get up for, people. It's going to be a very intense week getting up for this game, and having to put up with Claynus' Orton-whoring this week won't make it much better.

Let's win this ****ing game.
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:43 AM   #556
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http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-...ill-beat-bills

Prediction: Chiefs will beat Bills
By Adam Teicher | ESPN.com
November, 7, 2014

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Kansas City Chiefs have thrived this season on third down. Offensively, they convert 52 percent of the time, second-best in the league. Opponents convert just 33 percent of the time, third-best in the league.

As a result, the Chiefs have played four games this season in which they’ve been able to run many more plays than their opponent. Sunday's meeting with the Bills in Buffalo could be another one of those games.

The Bills, while solid on third-down defensively (36 percent), don’t move the chains efficiently on offense (36 percent). Throw in the fact the Bills haven’t run the ball effectively since losing C.J. Spiller and Fred Jackson to injury and Buffalo might not get many cracks at the Chiefs’ defense.

When they do, they’ll be throwing against the NFL’s No. 1 pass defense and trying to protect against the NFL leader in sacks, Justin Houston. The Chiefs also lead the league in sacks per opponent pass attempt. So if the Bills can crack the code and get some big pass plays against the Chiefs where other teams have failed, they have a good shot at victory. Otherwise, look for the Chiefs to do just enough offensively to hold off the Bills.

My prediction: Chiefs 20, Bills 17
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Old 11-08-2014, 04:46 AM   #557
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I find the Bills oddly fascinating.

Some interesting, game-relevant stats in here too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...035_story.html

Bills seek chance to gain respect in facing Chiefs
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November 6

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. — Though not the gambling type, Buffalo Bills coach Doug Marrone can’t avoid being reminded how often his team is the underdog.

Informed the Bills are not favored in their home game against the Kansas City Chiefs in a meeting of two 5-3 teams, Marrone smiled and said: “And (the line) is moving. It’s going up, right?”

Indeed it was. After opening the week 1-point favorites, the Chiefs were at 2 by Thursday.

Marrone’s not surprised after the Bills weren’t favored entering their 43-23 win against the then-1-6 New York Jets two weeks ago.

Encouraging as the Bills’ record has been, they have a long history of second-half collapses during a 14-season playoff drought. That’s a history they need to overcome before anyone begins taking them seriously.

“It’s going to be that way until we prove that we can go out and win on a consistent basis. And we haven’t,” Marrone said. “So I don’t get upset with anyone. Do you need it as motivation? I think these guys go out there every day and understand what we have to prove.”

The game Sunday becomes the latest prove-it or lose-it test for a Bills team that comes out of its bye week. The Bills have won two straight, and displayed resilience in winning three games on their final offensive possession.

They’ll face the Chiefs, who are on a roll of their own. Kansas City has won three straight and five of six to climb into a jumbled AFC playoff picture featuring 11 teams with winning records.

“I don’t get caught up in all that,” Chiefs coach Andy Reid, referring to the standings. “I don’t think it does any good. It doesn’t help you win the game or that. We’re both sitting 5-3, and that’s what we are.”

The similarities don’t end there. Both teams have aggressive defenses the league leaders in sacks, and are stingy against the run. Their offenses are run by veteran quarterbacks and rely on balanced approaches.

Here’s a number of things to look out for as the non-division rivals meet for a seventh straight season:

BY THE SACKFUL: The Bills are second in the NFL with 28 sacks, and the Chiefs one behind with 27. That was enough for Marrone and Reid to exchange compliments.

“You could argue that this is one of the better defenses, if not the best, in the National Football League at this point this season,” Reid said of the Bills.

Marrone made note of Chiefs linebackers Justin Houston, who leads the NFL with 12 sacks, and Tamba Hali, who has four, before turning his attention to defensive tackle Dontari Poe.

“I think the inside guy is having an unbelievable year,” Marrone said of Poe, who has three sacks. “He’s a guy that’s flying under the radar in this league.”

RUN STOPPERS: The Chiefs have yet to allow a touchdown rushing this season, and face an injury-depleted Bills backfield missing C.J. Spiller (broken collarbone) and Fred Jackson (groin). Backups Anthony Dixon and Bryce Brown were limited to a combined 59 yards on 29 carries against the Jets.

Chiefs starter Jamaal Charles, meanwhile, faces a defense that didn’t allow a rushing TD until giving up three against the Jets. Buffalo has held six opponents under 90 yards rushing this season.

AIR BALLS: Chiefs starter Alex Smith has thrown 11 touchdown passes, but none yet to a wide receiver. Not to worry, said receiver Dwayne Bowe, who has 31 catches for 398 yards.

“As long as I’m contributing, then I’m feeling good,” Bowe said. “It’s going to come my way.”

AIRING IT OUT: Kyle Orton has provided a spark to the Bills’ passing attack in four games since replacing EJ Manuel as starter. With a 3-1 record, the 10-year journeyman is averaging 282 yards passing per outing, and has nine touchdowns versus three interceptions. In that time, the Bills’ passing numbers have jumped from being ranked 31st to 20th.

Rookie receiver Sammy Watkins has been the big beneficiary. In four games with Manuel, Watkins had 17 catches for 197 yards and two TDs. In four with Orton, he has 21 catches for 393 yards and three TDs.

SECOND-HALF COLLAPSES: This marks the fourth time since the Bills’ playoff drought began they’ve had a winning record through eight games. None of those translated into winning seasons, including 2011, when Buffalo turned a 5-3 start into a 6-10 finish. Since 2005, the Bills have a combined 29-43 record in the first half of a season, and 25-47 in the second.

“Yeah, we’re in a good position record-wise, but we haven’t done anything yet,” Bills center Eric Wood said. “You don’t get any prizes for starting 5-3.”
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CBS Sports' 8 analysts are split 4-4 on who they think will win.

All eight of them predicted the Bengals beating the Browns, though. So.
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Old 11-08-2014, 05:15 AM   #559
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CBS Sports' 8 analysts are split 4-4 on who they think will win.

All eight of them predicted the Bengals beating the Browns, though. So.
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That might be a little lower. there may be a shitload of 6-3 teams this year and they arent all going to make it lol.
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That might be a little lower. there may be a shitload of 6-3 teams this year and they arent all going to make it lol.
Actually, when you consider that the Chiefs would have beaten two of their main WC competitors to get to 6-3 (Dolphins and Bills), it's gotta be higher.

If we beat the Bills, we just need to sweep the Raiders and get one more win against a serious competitor (Seahawks, Broncos, Cardinals, Steelers, Chargers) to get to 9-7. Very doable. I think we can get two wins out of that quintet. If we get 10-6 by sweeping the AFCE, we're a sure thing.
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The point is, the Bills have two Aaron Donalds, with quality passrushers on the outside.

This idea you have that the Chiefs should be snoring through this one is dramatically mistaken.
Its not hard to see that Dane is a big homer who has absolutely no objectivity towards other teams.

The Bills have the best D-Line in the league. Better than the Jets. Much better than the Rams.

But don't bother telling Dane that. He wants to live in a pixie world where the only chance the Chiefs lose is if they play like crap - not because Buffalo has an immensely talented defense with 3 pro-bowlers on the DL.
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No, they don't have Donald, he is the best interior pass rusher in the league right now. But they do have a pair that are on par with the Wilkerson and Richardson combo.

What makes matters worse is that they also have two of the top edge guys in the league in Williams and Hughes.
Dareus is being talked about for defensive player of the year. To say that Donald is better is a little fun. Continue on though.
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The Bills gave up 3 rushing TD to the freaking Jets? Seriously?

We got this.
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That might be a little lower. there may be a shitload of 6-3 teams this year and they arent all going to make it lol.
Correct, only 74% or so.

And there wont be that many as the season progresses. Just like after the Chiefs Bills game.
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We should beat Buffalo unless Dr. Jekyll comes out of Andy Reid and shits all over the game.
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Its not hard to see that Dane is a big homer who has absolutely no objectivity towards other teams.

The Bills have the best D-Line in the league. Better than the Jets. Much better than the Rams.

But don't bother telling Dane that. He wants to live in a pixie world where the only chance the Chiefs lose is if they play like crap - not because Buffalo has an immensely talented defense with 3 pro-bowlers on the DL.
What lol. I'm taking the rams with chris long healthy over any d line. Robert quinn Donald brocker
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