Talking Draft Prospects - Page 16

Direckshun · 08:24 PM

We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder.

As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones.

The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May.

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OldSchool · 11-20-2014, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Another possible Derrick Johnson youngster to develop.

Amarlo Herrera - Georgia Bulldogs LB - 6' 2" - 235 lbs

Looks like he was over 10 lbs heavier in 2013.. size and physicality won't be an issue. Tackling machine.. good blitzer up the middle... takes on and sheds blocks well... Not real sure yet about his pass coverage and range.. but last year he did have 6 passes broken up and an INT.

Anyone think much of him?

Haven't really focused on him when watching Georgia.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Everything I've seen on twitter from the draft community says he's still a first rounder

That's crazy. There is very little chance he becomes a McGahee or Gore.

Direckshun · 11-20-2014, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Todd Gurley tore his ACL. If he is there, I would drop a comp pick on him.

I absolutely ****ing would.

Make a long-term investment, there. Charles has two years after this year, tops.

Direckshun · 11-20-2014, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That's crazy. There is very little chance he becomes a McGahee or Gore.

I'd put him a solid cut above both.

He's got Eddie George potential.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'd put him a solid cut above both.

He's got Eddie George potential.

Frank Gore has more yards and just six less TD's. His career isn't over.

George never tore his ACL, unlike Gurley and Gore.

Direckshun · 11-20-2014, 03:08 AM

George was by far the more talented runner. He'd be a shoo-in Hall of Famer had the Titans not run his legs off.

Assuming Gurley rehabs well, and there's no reason he shouldn't, he possesses every trait George had.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

George was by far the more talented runner. He'd be a shoo-in Hall of Famer had the Titans not run his legs off.

Assuming Gurley rehabs well, and there's no reason he shouldn't, he possesses every trait George had.

I'll take Gore every day of the week over George.

Did you SEE SF's line in the last decade?

Selecting Gurley comes with great risk. He may recover physically but may not recover mentally.

Direckshun · 11-20-2014, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'll take Gore every day of the week over George.

Did you SEE SF's line in the last decade?

Selecting Gurley comes with great risk. He may recover physically but may not recover mentally.

Yeah, three 1st rounders on that OL. Gore's had solid-to-great runblocking for at LEAST part of that stretch. Gore's also been more injury prone, while George was one of the most durable RBs the league's ever seen.

Why wouldn't he recover mentally? In recent years, the track record for extremely talented RBs coming back from ACLs has been sterling.

OldSchool · 11-20-2014, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Yeah, three 1st rounders on that OL. Gore's had solid-to-great runblocking for at LEAST part of that stretch. Gore's also been more injury prone, while George was one of the most durable RBs the league's ever seen.

Why wouldn't he recover mentally? In recent years, the track record for extremely talented RBs coming back from ACLs has been sterling.

I wonder what Gore would have looked like if he didn't have multiple knee injuries in college. He lost a significant amount of explosion and quickness because of those injuries. But look at the career that he's been able to have in spite of those injuries.

Sandy Vagina · 11-20-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Haven't really focused on him when watching Georgia.

Keep #52 in mind when you do.

Really liked what I saw of him last week. After I posted that, I finished watching them vs Auburn. Herrera was impressive in coverage, as well as being a thumper. You probably don't like him running stride for stride with WRs or fast TEs.. but you don't really want to see DJ doing that either.

I suspect he may get more attention soon, and at least rise in the ranks to the middle draft rounds.

OldSchool · 11-20-2014, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Keep #52 in mind when you do.

Really liked what I saw of him last week. After I posted that, I finished watching them vs Auburn. Herrera was impressive in coverage, as well as being a thumper. You probably don't like him running stride for stride with WRs or fast TEs.. but you don't really want to see DJ doing that either.

I suspect he may get more attention soon, and at least rise in the ranks to the middle draft rounds.

I tend to keep my eyes on Ramik Wilson when I'm watching Georgia LBs.

O.city · 11-20-2014, 10:04 AM

Gurleys tear also wasn't a gruesome one like McGahee or Lattimore.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Yeah, three 1st rounders on that OL. Gore's had solid-to-great runblocking for at LEAST part of that stretch. Gore's also been more injury prone, while George was one of the most durable RBs the league's ever seen.

Why wouldn't he recover mentally? In recent years, the track record for extremely talented RBs coming back from ACLs has been sterling.

Gore rushed for 1698 yards the year before Joe Staley, the first of the first rounders you mention, joined the team. Staley, who's from CMU (like Eric Fisher) took a few years to develop. Iupati and Davis didn't arrive until 2010.

Eddie George's ran for career high 1509 yards behind HOFer Bruce Matthews and very good linemen in Brad Hopkins and Benji Olsen.

I'll take Gore over George any day of the week.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2014, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Gurleys tear also wasn't a gruesome one like McGahee or Lattimore.

While that's true, there is no reason in this day and age to take a running back in round one.

Most of the first round running backs taken recently have been disappointing to outright busts like Trent Richardson, Ryan Matthews, Mark Ingram and Doug Martin.

Not only are late rounders like Alfred Morris, Alfred Blue and nondrated guys like Arian Foster found each year, Jamaal Charles and Knile Davis were third rounders and LeSean McCoy a second rounder.

RunKC · 11-20-2014, 01:43 PM

Would anyone really be surprised of We took an OT rd 1 next year? Harris is avg at best and Stephenson has done nothing more than be an extra blocker since he got busted.

That's not what I would do, but I can see our brass making that pick based on their philosophy.

09-24-2014, 02:22 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Talking Draft Prospects We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder. As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones. The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May. Spoiler! QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon Jameis Winston, Florida State Brett Hundley, UCLA Connor Cook, Michigan State RB Todd Gurley, Georgia Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska Mike Davis, South Carolina T.J. Yeldon, Alabama Tevin Coleman, Indiana Duke Johnson, Miami Jay Ajayi, Boise State FB WR Sammie Coates, Auburn Amari Cooper, Alabama Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma Ty Montgomery, Stanford Kevin White, West Virginia DeVante Parker, Louisville Jaelen Strong, Arizona State Josh Harper, Fresno State Breshad Perriman, Central Florida Devin Smith, Ohio State Rashad Greene, Florida State TE Devin Funchess, Michigan Maxx Williams, Minnesota OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M Brandon Schwerff, Iowa Andrus Peat, Stanford La'el Collins, LSU Spencer Drango, Baylor Ereck Flowers, Miami Cameron Erving, Florida State T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Jake Fisher, Oregon OG La'el Collins, LSU A.J. McCann, South Carolina Cameron Erving, Florida State Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Josue Matias, Florida State Laken Tomlinson, Duke C Cameron Erving, Florida State Reese Dismukes, Auburn NT Danny Shelton, Washington Eddie Goldman, Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma 4-3 DT and/or 3-4 DE Leonard Williams, USC Michael Bennett, Ohio State Mario Edwards, Jr., Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Arik Armstead, Oregon Carl Davis, Iowa 4-3 DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shawn Oakman, Baylor Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA Danielle Hunter, LSU 3-4 OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska Vic Beasley, Clemson Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shayne Ray, Missouri Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Lorenzo Maudlin, Louisville Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Hau'oli Kikaha, Washington Eli Harold, Virginia Danielle Hunter, LSU 4-3 OLB/WILB Vic Beasley, Clemson Shaq Thompson, Washington Paul Dawson, TCU MLB/SILB Bernardrick McKinney, Mississippi State Denzel Perryman, Miami Eric Kendricks, UCLA CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomo, Oregon P.J. Williams, Florida State Marcus Peters, Washington Trae Waynes, Michigan State Jalen Collins, LSU Alex Carter, Stanford Quentin Rollins, Miami (OH) Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest SS Landon Collins, Alabama Anthony Harris, Virginia FS Gerod Holliman, Louisville K P Last edited by Direckshun; 03-04-2015 at 08:24 PM..
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