Talking Draft Prospects - Page 19

Direckshun · 08:24 PM

We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder.

As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones.

The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May.

Spoiler!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-24-2014, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

We absolutely need another quality 3-4 DE. Losing DeVito put us way behind. While it's nice that Jaye Howard stepped up, we basically only have Vickerson and Walker to help, but we need Walker to spell Poe bc he's playing too much as it is.

3-4 DE will be a big need this offseason.

What about Guards and RT? If we're going to build a line for the "Smith Successor", I'd just as soon get on it.

Direckshun · 11-26-2014, 11:38 AM

WR DeVante Parker, Louisville -- DeVante Parker makes all kinds of sense for the Chiefs in the 1st round because he fits the profile of what the Chiefs do in the draft, and what the Chiefs like in Parker's variety of receiver. In 2013, Dorsey drafted Eric Fisher, which surely spelled doom for Albert's chances of remaining on the team. In 2014, he drafted Dee Ford, which is pretty clear writing on the wall for Tamba Hali. In 2015, acquiring DeVante Parker would mean one thing: Bowe, like the two others before him, is likely in his last season as a Chief. Parker is nearly everything Bowe is: a good sized (less thick than Bowe, but very long with a great catching radius) possession WR who won't create tons of separation and is always looking for YAC. Like Bowe, Parker is a work-in-progress route runner but has excellent quickness into and out of his breaks. He's a fantastic, willing blocker in the run game -- far better than Bowe, even though he's about 10-15 lbs of muscle lighter. He specializes in using his body on slants and in looking for YAC in drag routes. It's no secret that Bowe is an insanely expensive WR who isn't giving the Chiefs the production his contract demands. Parker would be a remedy for that, certainly spelling doom for Bowe in Kansas City by 2016.

kccrow · 11-26-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

WR DeVante Parker, Louisville -- DeVante Parker makes all kinds of sense for the Chiefs in the 1st round because he fits the profile of what the Chiefs do in the draft, and what the Chiefs like in Parker's variety of receiver. In 2013, Dorsey drafted Eric Fisher, which surely spelled doom for Albert's chances of remaining on the team. In 2014, he drafted Dee Ford, which is pretty clear writing on the wall for Tamba Hali. In 2015, acquiring DeVante Parker would mean one thing: Bowe, like the two others before him, is likely in his last season as a Chief. Parker is nearly everything Bowe is: a good sized (less thick than Bowe, but very long with a great catching radius) possession WR who won't create tons of separation and is always looking for YAC. Like Bowe, Parker is a work-in-progress route runner but has excellent quickness into and out of his breaks. He's a fantastic, willing blocker in the run game -- far better than Bowe, even though he's about 10-15 lbs of muscle lighter. He specializes in using his body on slants and in looking for YAC in drag routes. It's no secret that Bowe is an insanely expensive WR who isn't giving the Chiefs the production his contract demands. Parker would be a remedy for that, certainly spelling doom for Bowe in Kansas City by 2016.

Jesus 'Shun.... Parker could run circles around Bowe on a bad day, or so it appears. Looks much faster off the line, in his routes, down the field, etc. Parker looks like more than a possession type to me.

Direckshun · 11-26-2014, 10:16 PM

He looks faster in and out of his breaks, but his deep game is being dramatically overrated here. People forget that Bowe is an adequate deep threat, too -- Bowe isn't a one-dimensional possession receiver either (although that's what he is with Smith).

Direckshun · 11-28-2014, 10:14 AM

OT T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh -- Clemmings played right tackle for Pitt, but he has some serious left tackle potential in the NFL. He's a remarkably fit 6'6", 315 lb lineman with really good agility -- not quite Eric Fisher caliber, but fairly close. He is a finesse tackle that reminds me more of a left tackle in an athletic zone blocking scheme than a mauler in a power scheme, although his frame would allow for more growth. Clemmings is a really good technician in the run game -- he can isolate his man reliably, and does even better getting to the second level. Clemmings has Pro Bowl tackle potential with one exception -- his passblocking is going to need a TON of work. Clemmings' excellent form doesn't serve him well passblocking, as he frequently overcommits to taking away either the inside move or the edge, opening up the other for the passrusher. Fortunately for Pitt, Clemmings didn't face a lot of passrushers who could exploit that, but they'll eat him for breakfast in the NFL. Clemmings will need to get stronger as well, as power rushers could definitely give his seemingly slight frame issues right away. And I'm not crazy about Clemmings' lack of a nasty side (and he doesn't frequently block whistle-to-whistle for my tastes), although I think that's overrated these days -- you just want a guy who'll do his job. Clemmings is a 2nd rounder with a very high ceiling, and I think he's going to do extremely well at the Combine.

jonzie04 · 11-29-2014, 02:08 PM

Watching the Kentucky Louisville game and Bud Dupree is a bad ass mother ****er. jesus that guy is ridiculosuly strong, he just throws tackles aside like rag dolls.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-29-2014, 02:10 PM

Any relation to Marcus Dupree?

RunKC · 11-30-2014, 11:04 PM

Well pretty obvious that OT is a huge need. TJ Clemmings come on down.

LG, RT and WR have to be fixed

Direckshun · 12-01-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jonzie04

Watching the Kentucky Louisville game and Bud Dupree is a bad ass mother ****er. jesus that guy is ridiculosuly strong, he just throws tackles aside like rag dolls.

He's actually who I have on deck.

Direckshun · 12-01-2014, 11:49 AM

DE/OLB Alvin Dupree, Kentucky -- There aren't many passrushers in this draft that are going to be more attractive than Dupree, who at this point is looking like a slam dunk first rounder. Dupree is a former tight end who's done nothing but put up consistently really good numbers since 2012. He's an extremely fit 6'4", 264 lbs with exceptional athleticism, and can cover a ton of ground in the passing game. The Wildcats stood him up about 75% of the time, so he looks like a great prospect at 3-4 OLB who you can plug in right away. He does, however, need a lot of work on his passrushing moves and his ability to stack and shed in the run game (tight ends can neutralize him routinely -- that shouldn't last if he gets good coaching), so a 4-3 team can draft him and groom him to be a DE for a little while as well. He plays with excellent energy and can really burst off the line. Keep in mind this is a player still learning the finer points of his position and can only get better with extensive coaching. He's both a sure thing (he has double-digit sack potential) but also has a high roof. He's currently flying under the radar but he should go late in the 1st barring any surprises.

kccrow · 12-01-2014, 08:05 PM

Lorenzo Mauldin. Nuff said.

Chiefnj2 · 12-09-2014, 07:58 AM

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...284999721.html

OldSchool · 12-12-2014, 09:31 PM

Update on Marcus Peters:

Quote:

One NFL scout revealed to Bob McGinn that former Washington junior CB Marcus Peters "tried to strangle a coach on the sidelines."
This led to Peters' first suspension. "Then they let him back on the team and he did it all over again," the scout said of Peters. "Try selling that to your head coach." We have seen numerous prospects enter the NFL with "character concerns." This makes Peters' potential draft slot impossible to project despite the obvious talent he offers. Dec 9 - 12:33 PM

Youch. Would you touch him? If so, what round?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-12-2014, 09:57 PM

Now THAT man is "Right 53"!

jonzie04 · 12-20-2014, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Update on Marcus Peters:

Youch. Would you touch him? If so, what round?

yes, in the third, possibly the second. hes the best cb in this draft by far. get him a shrink, and hope he grows up.

09-24-2014, 02:22 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Talking Draft Prospects We've got perhaps the biggest, most consequential draft coming up for this franchise since 2008. The Chiefs have all seven of their picks, and will certainly be picking up an additional four in compensatory picks, one of which is assuredly a 3rd rounder. As a result, it's important to familiarize ourselves with as much of this draft class as possible. I started a thread last offseason that discussed late rounders that was generally well liked and spurred tons of great conversation on all sorts of draft picks we normally wouldn't talk about, so I'm going to duplicate that idea this year, only discussing all talents, rather than just the mid- and lower-round ones. The OP will be continually updated to show the talent I'm reviewing by position. Keep in mind as I list these players that I am generally listing their round projections, but it is not a strict big board, as I likely won't have a big board put together until May. Spoiler! QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon Jameis Winston, Florida State Brett Hundley, UCLA Connor Cook, Michigan State RB Todd Gurley, Georgia Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska Mike Davis, South Carolina T.J. Yeldon, Alabama Tevin Coleman, Indiana Duke Johnson, Miami Jay Ajayi, Boise State FB WR Sammie Coates, Auburn Amari Cooper, Alabama Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma Ty Montgomery, Stanford Kevin White, West Virginia DeVante Parker, Louisville Jaelen Strong, Arizona State Josh Harper, Fresno State Breshad Perriman, Central Florida Devin Smith, Ohio State Rashad Greene, Florida State TE Devin Funchess, Michigan Maxx Williams, Minnesota OT Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M Brandon Schwerff, Iowa Andrus Peat, Stanford La'el Collins, LSU Spencer Drango, Baylor Ereck Flowers, Miami Cameron Erving, Florida State T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Jake Fisher, Oregon OG La'el Collins, LSU A.J. McCann, South Carolina Cameron Erving, Florida State Ty Sambrailo, Colorado State Josue Matias, Florida State Laken Tomlinson, Duke C Cameron Erving, Florida State Reese Dismukes, Auburn NT Danny Shelton, Washington Eddie Goldman, Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma 4-3 DT and/or 3-4 DE Leonard Williams, USC Michael Bennett, Ohio State Mario Edwards, Jr., Florida State Malcom Brown, Texas Arik Armstead, Oregon Carl Davis, Iowa 4-3 DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska Shilique Calhoun, Michigan State Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shawn Oakman, Baylor Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA Danielle Hunter, LSU 3-4 OLB Randy Gregory, Nebraska Vic Beasley, Clemson Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida Shayne Ray, Missouri Bronson Kaufusi, BYU Lorenzo Maudlin, Louisville Alvin Dupree, Kentucky Nate Orchard, Utah Hau'oli Kikaha, Washington Eli Harold, Virginia Danielle Hunter, LSU 4-3 OLB/WILB Vic Beasley, Clemson Shaq Thompson, Washington Paul Dawson, TCU MLB/SILB Bernardrick McKinney, Mississippi State Denzel Perryman, Miami Eric Kendricks, UCLA CB Ifo Ekpre-Olomo, Oregon P.J. Williams, Florida State Marcus Peters, Washington Trae Waynes, Michigan State Jalen Collins, LSU Alex Carter, Stanford Quentin Rollins, Miami (OH) Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest SS Landon Collins, Alabama Anthony Harris, Virginia FS Gerod Holliman, Louisville K P Last edited by Direckshun; 03-04-2015 at 08:24 PM..
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11-26-2014, 11:38 AM	#272
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	WR DeVante Parker, Louisville -- DeVante Parker makes all kinds of sense for the Chiefs in the 1st round because he fits the profile of what the Chiefs do in the draft, and what the Chiefs like in Parker's variety of receiver. In 2013, Dorsey drafted Eric Fisher, which surely spelled doom for Albert's chances of remaining on the team. In 2014, he drafted Dee Ford, which is pretty clear writing on the wall for Tamba Hali. In 2015, acquiring DeVante Parker would mean one thing: Bowe, like the two others before him, is likely in his last season as a Chief. Parker is nearly everything Bowe is: a good sized (less thick than Bowe, but very long with a great catching radius) possession WR who won't create tons of separation and is always looking for YAC. Like Bowe, Parker is a work-in-progress route runner but has excellent quickness into and out of his breaks. He's a fantastic, willing blocker in the run game -- far better than Bowe, even though he's about 10-15 lbs of muscle lighter. He specializes in using his body on slants and in looking for YAC in drag routes. It's no secret that Bowe is an insanely expensive WR who isn't giving the Chiefs the production his contract demands. Parker would be a remedy for that, certainly spelling doom for Bowe in Kansas City by 2016.
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11-26-2014, 10:16 PM	#274
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	He looks faster in and out of his breaks, but his deep game is being dramatically overrated here. People forget that Bowe is an adequate deep threat, too -- Bowe isn't a one-dimensional possession receiver either (although that's what he is with Smith).
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11-28-2014, 10:14 AM	#275
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	OT T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh -- Clemmings played right tackle for Pitt, but he has some serious left tackle potential in the NFL. He's a remarkably fit 6'6", 315 lb lineman with really good agility -- not quite Eric Fisher caliber, but fairly close. He is a finesse tackle that reminds me more of a left tackle in an athletic zone blocking scheme than a mauler in a power scheme, although his frame would allow for more growth. Clemmings is a really good technician in the run game -- he can isolate his man reliably, and does even better getting to the second level. Clemmings has Pro Bowl tackle potential with one exception -- his passblocking is going to need a TON of work. Clemmings' excellent form doesn't serve him well passblocking, as he frequently overcommits to taking away either the inside move or the edge, opening up the other for the passrusher. Fortunately for Pitt, Clemmings didn't face a lot of passrushers who could exploit that, but they'll eat him for breakfast in the NFL. Clemmings will need to get stronger as well, as power rushers could definitely give his seemingly slight frame issues right away. And I'm not crazy about Clemmings' lack of a nasty side (and he doesn't frequently block whistle-to-whistle for my tastes), although I think that's overrated these days -- you just want a guy who'll do his job. Clemmings is a 2nd rounder with a very high ceiling, and I think he's going to do extremely well at the Combine.
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11-29-2014, 02:08 PM	#276
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11-30-2014, 11:04 PM	#278
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12-01-2014, 11:49 AM	#280
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	DE/OLB Alvin Dupree, Kentucky -- There aren't many passrushers in this draft that are going to be more attractive than Dupree, who at this point is looking like a slam dunk first rounder. Dupree is a former tight end who's done nothing but put up consistently really good numbers since 2012. He's an extremely fit 6'4", 264 lbs with exceptional athleticism, and can cover a ton of ground in the passing game. The Wildcats stood him up about 75% of the time, so he looks like a great prospect at 3-4 OLB who you can plug in right away. He does, however, need a lot of work on his passrushing moves and his ability to stack and shed in the run game (tight ends can neutralize him routinely -- that shouldn't last if he gets good coaching), so a 4-3 team can draft him and groom him to be a DE for a little while as well. He plays with excellent energy and can really burst off the line. Keep in mind this is a player still learning the finer points of his position and can only get better with extensive coaching. He's both a sure thing (he has double-digit sack potential) but also has a high roof. He's currently flying under the radar but he should go late in the 1st barring any surprises.
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12-01-2014, 08:05 PM	#281
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