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Old 09-18-2015, 02:37 PM  
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I'll Take Todd Haley for a hundred, Alex

Ok, I realize that most of you are not going to like this observation, but I'm going to make it anyway: We'd have been better off keeping Todd Haley as our coach than hiring Andy Reid. Yeah, I said it.

This whole franchise lacks.......balls. And not the over/under-inflated kind either. Haley was obviously learning on the job as to how to be a head coach, so he clearly made some mistakes. However, he knew that given the talent that Scooter had provided, the ONLY way for him to be competitive was to roll the dice and take some chances. Clearly, some of said chances were real boners, but the guy had cojones.

Plus, Haley had zero support from his boss who handcuffed him Mr Cassel, and didn't he have Tyler Palko as his backup QB? Those guys weren't pro-caliber QBs, heck they weren't much more than answers to trivia questions.

Haley also wasn't going to put up with pussy-footed players.....period. See DJ and Bowe about that.

Instead we now have Andy Reid who selected Alex "The Accountant" Smith as his "dynamic" QB. BTW, did you hear Smith after the game? Calmly assessed it as "only one game" and "there's a lot of football left" bullshit. And of course Reid took responsibility for the game, but Lord have mercy, what in the world does THAT mean? Is he gonna put himself in timeout?

I wanna see someone with some PASSION. Not some cool, calculating football "genius" who constantly outthinks himself. I wanted to hear "Totally and Completely Unacceptable", not this mealy-mouthed "My Responsibility" crap.

Anyway, like him or not, I claim we'd be MUCH further down the road to the Super Bowl with Todd Friggin' Haley as coach than we are with the ultra-conservative, don't push the ball down the field, Andy Reid. I can sure as hell guarantee you that Haley's choice for a QB wouldn't be some wanna-be accountant type. He'd have some gunslinger out there who shows some friggin' PASSION.

Frankly, I'm tired of all of the conservative mindlessness within this friggin' organization. Next thing you know, we're gonna change our colors to an electric beige.

Gimme a friggin' break....

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Old 09-19-2015, 12:35 AM   #106
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I think Palko was Haley's guy. He never got anywhere close to the field but he had a brief stint with Arizona, and Haley kept playing him despite having other options. I think Pioli's guy was Orton... who I think never wanted to be in KC or re-sign here, but there's no universe where Palko should be starting games over him. Haley was just flipping Pioli a giant middle finger.
I'll go on record in saying Palko starting was some sort of weird vicarious shit from Haley's point of view. Noodle armed at best but had some semblance of knowing how to run an NFL offense.
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Old 09-19-2015, 03:31 AM   #107
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Old 09-19-2015, 05:21 AM   #108
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Old 09-19-2015, 05:52 AM   #109
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I think Palko was Haley's guy. He never got anywhere close to the field but he had a brief stint with Arizona, and Haley kept playing him despite having other options. I think Pioli's guy was Orton... who I think never wanted to be in KC or re-sign here, but there's no universe where Palko should be starting games over him. Haley was just flipping Pioli a giant middle finger.
If I'm not mistaken, there is only one game where Palko legitimately started over Orton, and by the second quarter, Haley put Orton in and then he got injured.
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Old 09-19-2015, 07:41 AM   #110
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I remember everyone in here bitching about Haley not giving Charles enough carries.

Remember, Thomas Jones was the starter.
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Old 09-19-2015, 07:43 AM   #111
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Ok, I realize that most of you are not going to like this observation, but I'm going to make it anyway: We'd have been better off keeping Todd Haley as our coach than hiring Andy Reid. Yeah, I said it.
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:06 AM   #112
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So you never watched the Chiefs when Haley was here.

Got it.
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:13 AM   #113
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I remember everyone in here bitching about Haley not giving Charles enough carries.

Remember, Thomas Jones was the starter.
Thomas Jones wasn't the starter. The call for more carries back then was ridiculous.
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:14 AM   #114
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Todd Haley gets a free pass from me as he was handcuffed with shit at QB and GM.

That said, I don't have any faith that Haley would have this organization anywhere other than it's typical mediocrity.
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:16 AM   #115
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I'll go on record in saying Palko starting was some sort of weird vicarious shit from Haley's point of view. Noodle armed at best but had some semblance of knowing how to run an NFL offense.
So that year which KC QB had the best QB rating? Cassel, Brady or Palko?
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Most of the football minds here disregard him as a loose nut psycho, but I miss the attitude and accountability factor.
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Most of the football minds here disregard him as a loose nut psycho, but I miss the attitude and accountability factor.
For as much as that's blown up, big Ben is fine with him. DJ and Bowe were superb under him. I don't have as much issue with this because I think Reid is one hell of a coach when it comes to getting players to play. Honestly, if one of these guys were forced to coach with a strong offensive mind, they both could be pretty good. I just think Haley would be more receptive, as long as Haley was allowed to hire his guy instead of being forced to hire a Patriots retread.
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For as much as that's blown up, big Ben is fine with him. DJ and Bowe were superb under him. I don't have as much issue with this because I think Reid is one hell of a coach when it comes to getting players to play. Honestly, if one of these guys were forced to coach with a strong offensive mind, they both could be pretty good. I just think Haley would be more receptive, as long as Haley was allowed to hire his guy instead of being forced to hire a Patriots retread.
Truth. I'd welcome him back.
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I know, Dane, some have even suggested that Jason Avant is washed up and shouldn't be on the team. Permeates this whole board. Heck, if this place was for genius' only, it'd be a very lonely place.
What has Avant done through 2 games dickwad? NOTHING thats what. ****ing nothing.
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