WHO says processed meat causes cancer

[Fire Me Boy!]

http://www.aicr.org/press/press-rele...nd-Cancer.html

WASHINGTON, DC — The American Institute for Cancer Research (AICR), the nation’s leading cancer research organization focusing on the role of diet, weight and physical activity on cancer risk and survival, welcomes a new report from the World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC). Today’s report supports AICR’s analysis of the research on red and processed meat’s role in increasing colorectal cancer risk.

The new IARC report places processed meats (hot dogs, bacon, ham, sausage, cold cuts) in Group 1: Carcinogenic to Humans, the same category as cigarettes. Red meat (beef, pork, lamb) is assigned to Group 2A: Probably Carcinogenic to Humans.

AICR strongly supports the International Agency for Research on Cancer's report classifying red and processed meats as carcinogens, and we hope it will spread the message that what we eat plays a role in cancer risk.

More at the link.

[sd4chiefs]

I am all ready starting to dread Christmas when all the vegan In-laws show up at the door.

[58-4ever]

*My goal for 2016 is to only eat meat and fish that I've procured myself... IE, Venison (Deer, Elk), and Fish that I've caught.

*I will also indulge in a J. Gilbert's steak from time to time.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Fish

What you said was incorrect. That's why you admit you shouldn't have said what you did. You shouldn't have said "On par", because it's actually not "On par." The group classification is meaningless with regards to any type of comparison with others in the group. Because it doesn't assess any level of risk at all.

Yes, as you've said the classification doesn't say anything about the relative dangers of things in the same category.

The straw man argument (this is actually a straw man, not the CP taunt of 'straw man') is that WHO is saying bacon is as bad as tobacco, which isn't what they are saying. They are saying processed meats do cause cancer, and that red meat probably does, but it's still in category 2 because it needs more study.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

How is steak processed?

It isn't. They declared hot dogs, cold cuts and other processed meat to definitely be carcinogens. But steak as, probably.

[BigRichard]

I don't know, who?

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by sd4chiefs

I am all ready starting to dread Christmas when all the vegan In-laws show up at the door.

Tell 'em their veggie hot dogs probably contain human DNA and pork.

[Beef Supreme]

I give up. WHO?

[BigRichard]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I give up. WHO?

Q

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by BWillie

It isn't. They declared hot dogs, cold cuts and other processed meat to definitely be carcinogens. But steak as, probably.

I also think that they should be careful to differentiate animals on what they eat. For example, Grass-Fed animals tend to look and taste a lot more healthy than corn (and whatever the hell else) is fed to those penned up animals.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

So that lady that did the sausage in the Walmart bathroom is hosed !

[Bugeater]

Well, bye.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

What doesn't cause cancer.

That's what I'm asking. Who is saying processed meat causes cancer?

[tooge]

I think its pretty understood in medical research regarding cancer, that it's generally not that something causes cancer, but rather a certain amount of something causes cancer. You smoke a cig once a month at a buddies house, you aren't getting lung cancer from it. You eat a ham sandwich once a month for lunch, you aren't getting cancer from it.

Reasonable is this: Eat a whole foods, plant based diet, and supplement your protein with sustainable fish and cage free chicken. Once in a while have a lean cut of red meat/pork. Limit processed sugars, processed carbs in general. Try to get 30-45 minutes of excercise 4-5 days a week. Do that and you are good to go. No, eating a ham sandwich isn't going to cause you to get cancer.

Also, to BEP, no, the medical community is not behind on the cholesterol research. It's pretty clear that a high LDL is not good for you, and a low HDL is not good for you. What is new, is that it's the type of LDL (particle size) that really matters, and more importantly, the amount of vessel inflammation for those small particles to lodge in, that makes a difference. Most of the public is just not able to process all of it really, so it's canned as "Cholesterol is bad for you and these foods are high in cholesterol".

[58-4ever]

Originally Posted by tooge

I think its pretty understood in medical research regarding cancer, that it's generally not that something causes cancer, but rather a certain amount of something causes cancer. You smoke a cig once a month at a buddies house, you aren't getting lung cancer from it. You eat a ham sandwich once a month for lunch, you aren't getting cancer from it.

Reasonable is this: Eat a whole foods, plant based diet, and supplement your protein with sustainable fish and cage free chicken. Once in a while have a lean cut of red meat/pork. Limit processed sugars, processed carbs in general. Try to get 30-45 minutes of excercise 4-5 days a week. Do that and you are good to go. No, eating a ham sandwich isn't going to cause you to get cancer.

Also, to BEP, no, the medical community is not behind on the cholesterol research. It's pretty clear that a high LDL is not good for you, and a low HDL is not good for you. What is new, is that it's the type of LDL (particle size) that really matters, and more importantly, the amount of vessel inflammation for those small particles to lodge in, that makes a difference. Most of the public is just not able to process all of it really, so it's canned as "Cholesterol is bad for you and these foods are high in cholesterol".

You seem nice.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by 58-4ever

You seem nice.

Yeah, well, I am.