Chiefs John Dorsey pre-draft press conference - Page 7

RunKC · 04-22-2016, 10:18 AM

Tidbits so far:

-180 players exactly on his draft board
-Clark's statement about the tampering appeal will say it all (he sounded pissed off when he said it).

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-23-2016, 03:23 PM

I do remember though telling a buddy of mine a few days before the draft how bad I wanted us to take a risk on Justin Houston in the 2nd or 3rd round, especially with the huge hole we'd had across from Hali.

Pioli wasn't always dog shit at his job.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2016, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I do remember though telling a buddy of mine a few days before the draft how bad I wanted us to take a risk on Justin Houston in the 2nd or 3rd round, especially with the huge hole we'd had across from Hali.

Pioli wasn't always dog shit at his job.

Even a blind squirrel will occasionally find a nut.

Pioli was ****ing garbage.

RunKC · 04-23-2016, 03:32 PM

Pioli owes a lot of his credit to Romeo, who is a good DC. Romeo worked with Georgia's former DC and Houston played 3-4 OLB in college so it made perfect sense.

Regardless, Pioli still made some great picks. He also showed his dumbassery with the Baldwin pick tho. How on ****ing earth could anyone not see that kid's attitude problem?

We still rocked that draft, even with Baldwin. Hudson and Houston are both elite players who are top 5 at their position. Allen Bailey is also one of the better 3-4 DE's in the league.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-23-2016, 03:47 PM

So damn ready for this weekend.

If we can hit this draft out of the park, we're gonna be set for the long haul.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Regardless, Pioli still made some great picks.

No, he did not.

Houston was luck, plain and simple. Otherwise, Pioli would have taken him in the first round. Hell, he should have gone Top 5.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 04-23-2016, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, he did not.

Houston was luck, plain and simple. Otherwise, Pioli would have taken him in the first round. Hell, he should have gone Top 5.

He still pulled the trigger, and there's something to be said for that. Despite tremendous physical upside, Houston's marijuana issue led him to get passed on 69 times before we drafted him.

Yes, I'll admit we were lucky to see him turn into what he has become, but it's not 100% luck. Pioli still had to make the selection that many were passing on.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

He still pulled the trigger, and there's something to be said for that. Despite tremendous physical upside, Houston's marijuana issue led him to get passed on 69 times before we drafted him.

Yes, I'll admit we were lucky to see him turn into what he has become, but it's not 100% luck. Pioli still had to make the selection that many were passing on.

It was ****ing luck.

Third rounders don't become among the best players in the NFL each year.

Hell, the Cowboys took a similar risk on Randy Gregory last year and he blows.

**New World Order** · 04-23-2016, 04:08 PM

Priorities should be:

1. Corner

2. Corner

4. Pass rusher with physical tools they can develop.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2016, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Priorities should be:

1. Corner

2. Corner

4. Pass rusher with physical tools they can develop.

**New World Order** · 04-23-2016, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What's wrong with that?

Deberg_1990 · 04-23-2016, 04:26 PM

Piolis two biggest mistakes
He missed on head coaches and QBs.

You absolutely cannot do that in the NFL

RunKC · 04-23-2016, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, he did not.

Houston was luck, plain and simple. Otherwise, Pioli would have taken him in the first round. Hell, he should have gone Top 5.

Doesn't matter. He was still a damn good draft pick that Pioli made, luck or not, as well as Eric Berry, Allen Bailey, Rodney Hudson, Dontari Poe and even Jeff Allen.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Doesn't matter. He was still a damn good draft pick that Pioli made, luck or not, as well as Eric Berry, Allen Bailey, Rodney Hudson, Dontari Poe and even Jeff Allen.

So out of 28+ draft picks, he hit on five players, two of which are no longer with the team?

You can't be serious, can you?

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2016, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

What's wrong with that?

Everything.

Pre-determing which position should be taken in each round is a recipe for disaster. Taking the same exact position in the first two round is ****ing stupid.

Selecting someone in the 4th round "to develop" into a pass rusher is beyond dumb. If this "pass rusher" had any talent, he'd go in the first round. If he has an injury history, he might fall to the second.

But taking some random OLBer and trying to "transform" him into something he's not is just outright stupid and a complete waste of resources.

BPA.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-23-2016, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Pioli wasn't always dog shit at his job.

Since Pioli left the Patriots in 2008, the teams in which he's been a part of since are 37-59.

He's always been shit.

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