Trading Down

RunKC · 04-26-2016, 07:05 AM

It looks like there's a very good chance we're stuck in the rift of the first Rd when all the premier talent is gone.

IMO the draft could go a lot like this:

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/24/n...er-king-trades

IMO Lynch goes way higher and Kelly/Billings is off the board, but in this situation it looks like trading down is the best option.
Of the prospects left on the board (again I think Kelly/Billings are gone), the best prospect available appears to be Josh Garnett. I think if we stayed at 28 he's the guy (Vonn Bell is appealing here as well).

In this situation, do you trade down to the mid 30's if you can get a 4th Rd pick?

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-26-2016, 07:38 AM

Yes. San Fran has way too many picks and would be great trade partners.

**The Franchise** · 04-26-2016, 07:42 AM

Rather just take Karl Joseph.

RunKC · 04-26-2016, 07:52 AM

If I stayed there, I think I'd take Vonn Bell. I think he's better than Karl Joseph.

Laquan Treadwell is getting a lot of buzz though. Peter King and Chris Collinsworth mocked him to us saying they are hearing we could take a WR.
Matt Miller just said the same thing in his mock this morning.

O.city · 04-26-2016, 08:05 AM

Wonder if we're pumping some wr rumors out there to try and get someone to take them earlier or trade in front of us so someone drops.

Great Expectations · 04-26-2016, 08:07 AM

I'd really like treadwell, I think he'd fit well with our offense.

O.city · 04-26-2016, 08:14 AM

With Poe and his contract situation, wonder if billings is in play?

RunKC · 04-26-2016, 08:18 AM

I don't like Treadwell and would be disappointed if he was the pick, especially if we are passing up Michael Thomas. Just don't think that he'd provide the value we need, and Conley has a high ceiling as our #2 WR IMO.

feel the same way about Reggie Ragland.

staylor26 · 04-26-2016, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

With Poe and his contract situation, wonder if billings is in play?

If we go DL, I think we'd go with somebody who can offer more as a pass rusher like Butler, Jones, or Nkemdiche.

Remember, Howard can play NT too.

RunKC · 04-26-2016, 08:20 AM

Paraphrasing from Matt Miller's scouting notebook this morning..

-Don't be surprised if NT is the pick since we draft with the future in mind.
-Would like a CB but not sure if one will be there.
-WR definitely in play.

O.city · 04-26-2016, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

If we go DL, I think we'd go with somebody who can offer more as a pass rusher like Butler, Jones, or Nkemdiche.

Remember, Howard can play NT too.

Howard can fill in there, but he's no Poe.

I'd rather have butler or Nkemdiche (even though I think he's a little overhyped, but late first isn't a bad spot for him).

O.city · 04-26-2016, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

I don't like Treadwell and would be disappointed if he was the pick, especially if we are passing up Michael Thomas. Just don't think that he'd provide the value we need, and Conley has a high ceiling as our #2 WR IMO.

feel the same way about Reggie Ragland.

See, I kinda like treadwell. But after the bowe experiment I'm hesitant although treadwell is probably quucker.

O.city · 04-26-2016, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

Paraphrasing from Matt Miller's scouting notebook this morning..

-Don't be surprised if NT is the pick since we draft with the future in mind.
-Would like a CB but not sure if one will be there.
-WR definitely in play.

I read somewhere else they thought nt was up there.

I dunno, some of this seems a little smokey to me. Kinda like the Manziel love and getting someone to trade up for him.

staylor26 · 04-26-2016, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I read somewhere else they thought nt was up there.

I dunno, some of this seems a little smokey to me. Kinda like the Manziel love and getting someone to trade up for him.

I don't think anybody has a clue what we're going to do. Dorsey keeps things close to the chest. Hence a lack of names, just positions.

RunKC · 04-26-2016, 08:37 AM

Not all of it is smoke. Some of it is true.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/5...014-derek-carr

This turned out to be true. 3 months ago Andy told Derek Carr at the pro bowl that he would have drafted him if we didn't have Alex.

04-26-2016, 07:05 AM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1410389	Trading Down It looks like there's a very good chance we're stuck in the rift of the first Rd when all the premier talent is gone. IMO the draft could go a lot like this: http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/04/24/n...er-king-trades IMO Lynch goes way higher and Kelly/Billings is off the board, but in this situation it looks like trading down is the best option. Of the prospects left on the board (again I think Kelly/Billings are gone), the best prospect available appears to be Josh Garnett. I think if we stayed at 28 he's the guy (Vonn Bell is appealing here as well). In this situation, do you trade down to the mid 30's if you can get a 4th Rd pick?
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1410389	I don't like Treadwell and would be disappointed if he was the pick, especially if we are passing up Michael Thomas. Just don't think that he'd provide the value we need, and Conley has a high ceiling as our #2 WR IMO. feel the same way about Reggie Ragland. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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04-26-2016, 08:20 AM	#10
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1410389	Paraphrasing from Matt Miller's scouting notebook this morning.. -Don't be surprised if NT is the pick since we draft with the future in mind. -Would like a CB but not sure if one will be there. -WR definitely in play. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1410389	Not all of it is smoke. Some of it is true. http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2014/5...014-derek-carr This turned out to be true. 3 months ago Andy told Derek Carr at the pro bowl that he would have drafted him if we didn't have Alex. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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