Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell

[RunKC]

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

WOW

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What had we seen from Dee Ford in TC his rookie year that led you to believe he was worthy of a roster spot?

That wasn't the question I asked.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I agree with some of what you said. This whole situation sounds a lot like what we would think of Dee Ford in year 1.

It's most definitely not a good look for Dorsey, but that doesn't mean he's a bad GM.

I think you would agree that if you hit on 2 players a draft, you're doing well. 3 or more is outstanding.
Let's see how this class pans out. If DJ White turns into a player, I won't care about Russell.

1.) Never did I say Dorsey is a bad GM.

2.) White working out doesn't change the fact that someone else could have been acquired with the 74th pick.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I almost mentioned him. At $11 million/season for the next 3ish seasons, his deal's under market. I just wonder if he didn't plateau a few years ago. I wonder if maybe he's not quite as good as it seemed like he was going to be.

Haden's coming off of ankle surgery, was torched by Nelson Agholor this past Sunday and hasn't been a great cover corner since 2014.

If the Chiefs make a move for him, it had better be a low round Conditional Pick with a contract restructure.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

The problem is, even if white pans out, that Russel puck could have been used on someone else that could have made a difference.

It sucks losing that value.

Kelce, Gaines, Conley, Nelson, Davis, Russell.

I'd say Dorsey's done a damn good job of finding value in the 3rd. You can't hit on them all.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

The odds are against wrs under 5'10".

I think that 5'10" to 6'1" area is the sweet spot though.

Yea of course the "odds are against him" statistically speaking.

But do you really believe an inch will be the difference between Hill succeeding or failing?

The guy has a 40 1/2 inch very and can clearly go up and get it. He's got everything else physically.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Clay being Clay just ****ing discuss football and not troll. If ya want to troll, go to ****ing Twitter clown.

Why would he go to twitter when he gets reactions like this right here?

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Ehinger is a 4th round rookie that's been given a chance to start at left guard and grow into the position. He's played one professional game and while he needs to increase his strength, it's better that he gain experience than to sit on the bench.

Also have to consider where the frustration should go if Ehinger happens to hurt the team this year. Would it be on him as a 4th round pick, or on the team for being a position that they need him this soon. I personally am pretty neutral about him at the moment. My point is simply that we need to recognize that sometimes it's on the player for not filling the hole. Sometimes its on the organization for needing him to fill a hole when he isn't ready(and drafted in a position where that is understandable).

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Kelce, Gaines, Conley, Nelson, Davis, Russell.

I'd say Dorsey's done a damn good job of finding value in the 3rd. You can't hit on them all.

It's still a lost value pick either way.

Shit happens, some guys don't pan out. It's weird to cut them this quick though.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea of course the "odds are against him" statistically speaking.

But do you really believe an inch will be the difference between Hill succeeding or failing?

The guy has a 40 1/2 inch very and can clearly go up and get it. He's got everything else physically.

I'm pretty sure that's what kccrow is getting at, so I'm not sure what all the vitriol is about

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Also have to consider where the frustration should go if Ehinger happens to hurt the team this year. Would it be on him as a 4th round pick, or on the team for being a position that they need him this soon. I personally am pretty neutral about him at the moment. My point is simply that we need to recognize that sometimes it's on the player for not filling the hole. Sometimes its on the organization for needing him to fill a hole when he isn't ready(and drafted in a position where that is understandable).

If Ehinger proves not worthy of the starting role, the Chiefs have Zach Fulton and Jah Reid to fill the gap while Ehinger works to get online.

I'd rather see him on the field early, gaining experience and for the line to maintain continuity, rather than stunt his development by a year.

Growing pains and all.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Kelce, Gaines, Conley, Nelson, Davis, Russell.

I'd say Dorsey's done a damn good job of finding value in the 3rd. You can't hit on them all.

There's a ton of talent on that list that didn't show shit early, yet we'd never DREAM of them being cut.

This front office went from falling all over themselves to draft this kid, to determining he was a bust in 3 months.

Jesus, Jamaal was a 3rd round pick that was INACTIVE for games.

Everyone's glad we didn't jump the gun early on him, eh?

Listen, I'm not claiming Russell is Cornerback Jesus - but to imply he went from the uber-talented kid they drafted in the Top 75 in May to an unrosterable POS in 3 months is ridiculous. There has to be more to the story, otherwise it's a bad look for Dorsey.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm pretty sure that's what kccrow is getting at, so I'm not sure what all the vitriol is about

No, he's saying he wouldn't even touch a guy that's 5'9" even if he loves everything else.

That's ****ing reeruned.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's still a lost value pick either way.

Shit happens, some guys don't pan out. It's weird to cut them this quick though.

Reid didn't even want to talk about, most likely because he didn't want to disparage the guy in front of the press.

“Listen, it happens,” Reid said when asked how difficult it is to move on from such a high pick this soon. “I don’t sweat over it either way. I mean, it happened. We’re going to be OK.”

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

There's a ton of talent on that list that didn't show shit early, yet we'd never DREAM of them being cut.

This front office went from falling all over themselves to draft this kid, to determining he was a bust in 3 months.

Jesus, Jamaal was a 3rd round pick that was INACTIVE for games.

Everyone's glad we didn't jump the gun early on him, eh?

Listen, I'm not claiming Russell is Cornerback Jesus - but to imply he went from the uber-talented kid they drafted in the Top 75 in May to an unrosterable POS in 3 months is ridiculous. There has to be more to the story, otherwise it's a bad look for Dorsey.

Of course there's more to the story. We've already heard some of it from Matt Miller. Like I said, you just have to give Dorsey the benefit of the doubt in this situation and move on.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

It's still a lost value pick either way.

Shit happens, some guys don't pan out. It's weird to cut them this quick though.

I'm still trying to find a Top 75 pick that was cut a week into his rookie year.

It's not just weird, it flat out doesn't happen unless there are non-football related issues/incidents.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Smellway

line of scrimmage, clearly

That's not actual yards in the air...