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Old 11-09-2016, 12:36 PM  
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San Diego Stadium Measure Loses 61-39
The citizens of San Diego gave a big **** you to Dean Spanos last night. This measure needed 66.7 in favor and it got 39%.

One of two things will happen now, Dean will settle for Mission Valley, while footing most of the bill himself, or the AFC West will have another team in a new home (assuming Raiders move to Las Vegas).

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...106-story.html
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Old 11-09-2016, 01:50 PM   #16
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They are stupid to have put that on a general election ballot.

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Old 11-09-2016, 01:57 PM   #18
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Now this actually could happen
The media markets are really close and Texas LOVES its football. They would probably build 2 stadiums on top of each other if they could.
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They are stupid to have put that on a general election ballot.

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Still would have lost.
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Old 11-09-2016, 02:09 PM   #20
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I really doubt the Chargers move to Los Angeles.

They can barely sell out games in San Diego. They'd have 50,000 no shows each week in the new stadium.

I suspect the Chargers stay at the Murph until 2020 and at that point, the Spanos family will either need to sell 49% of the team in order to pay for a new stadium or the NFL will outright force them to sell 100% of the team.

The other option would be to move north and share the 49ers new stadium in Santa Clara and rename the team as the East Bay Chargers or something like that. The Spanos family is from Stockton, so it would be a fit for them.
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Just because people CAN vote doesn't mean they know wtf they're doing.
Truth. I've said this for ****ing years.
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Old 11-09-2016, 03:27 PM   #23
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Blame it on Dean Spanos but the truth is San Diego voters are ****ing reeruned. Oceanside elected a dead man for City Treasurer for ****s sake.

Just because people CAN vote doesn't mean they know wtf they're doing.
Voting to not get ripped off in financing a stadium that will have a negative return on investment seems like the public knows what it is doing.
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Voting to not get ripped off in financing a stadium that will have a negative return on investment seems like the public knows what it is doing.
Do you know the terms of the proposal? Considering this is a tourism tax and San Diegans wouldn't pay a cent, i don't believe you do.
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Do you know the terms of the proposal? Considering this is a tourism tax and San Diegans wouldn't pay a cent, i don't believe you do.
Do you think the "tourism tax" will actually fully pay for the bonds?
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Do you think the "tourism tax" will actually fully pay for the bonds?
Why wouldn't it?
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Do you know the terms of the proposal? Considering this is a tourism tax and San Diegans wouldn't pay a cent, i don't believe you do.
As an SD resident, I actually voted for it as 100% of the funds would come out of an increased 5% tourism tax at hotels (rather than the general fund). I think the big reason it didn't pass is that many voters didn't understand that the funds are NOT coming from the general fund which subsidizes the city.
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Voting to not get ripped off in financing a stadium that will have a negative return on investment seems like the public knows what it is doing.
It was not a tax on residents.

Measure C was a hotel occupancy tax increase of 6% that would have help to fund a new downtown stadium for the Chargers.

That said, tourism is a large industry for San Diego and an additional 6% tax wouldn't have been appealing to travelers.
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Why wouldn't it?
Most tax projections are shall we say very optimistic about the amount of money the tax will actually bring in.

Not to mention the 5% tax people are paying on their hotels, and lets not forget that it is not only tourists and visitors that use hotels, is less money that can be spent on other goods and services in San Diego.
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As an SD resident, I actually voted for it as 100% of the funds would come out of an increased 5% tourism tax at hotels (rather than the general fund). I think the big reason it didn't pass is that many voters didn't understand that the funds are NOT coming from the general fund which subsidizes the city.
Yup. I was shocked after talking to my wife and Sister in Law yesterday that they both were against Measure C because "They didn't want to pay taxes for a Billionaire's Stadium".

I went on an epic rant for like 15 minutes.....

The Chargers failed horribly to educate the voters.
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