Football **** OFFICIAL College Football Bowls & Playoffs Thread **** - Page 11

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-05-2016, 12:02 PM

Dec. 17

Air Force Reserve Celebration Bowl
North Carolina Central vs. Grambling
12 p.m., ABC
Georgia Dome, Atlanta

Gildan New Mexico Bowl
New Mexico vs. UTSA
2 p.m., ESPN
University Stadium, Albuquerque, N.M.

Las Vegas Bowl Presented by Geico
Houston vs. San Diego State
3:30 p.m., ABC
Sam Boyd Stadium, Las Vegas

Raycom Media Camellia Bowl
Appalachian State vs. Toledo
5:30 p.m., ESPN
Cramton Bowl, Montgomery, Ala.

AutoNation Cure Bowl
UCF vs. Arkansas State
5:30 p.m., CBS Sports Network
Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Fla.

R+L Carriers New Orleans Bowl
Southern Mississippi vs. Louisiana-Lafayette
9 p.m., ESPN
Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans

Dec. 19

Miami Beach Bowl
Central Michigan vs. Tulsa
2:30 p.m., ESPN
Marlins Park, Miami

Dec. 20

Boca Raton Bowl
Memphis vs. Western Kentucky
7 p.m., ESPN
FAU Stadium, Boca Raton, Fla.

Dec. 21

San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl
BYU vs. Wyoming
9 p.m., ESPN
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego

Dec. 22

Famous Idaho Potato Bowl
Idaho vs. Colorado State
7 p.m., ESPN
Albertsons Stadium, Boise, Idaho

Dec. 23

Popeyes Bahamas Bowl
1 p.m., ESPN
Thomas A. Robinson National Stadium, Nassau, Bahamas
Eastern Michigan vs. Old Dominion

Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl
Louisiana Tech vs. No. 25 Navy
4:30 p.m., ESPN
Amon G. Carter Stadium, Fort Worth, Texas

Dollar General Bowl
Ohio vs. Troy
8 p.m., ESPN
Ladd-Peebles Stadium, Mobile, Ala.

Dec. 24

Hawai'i Bowl
Hawai'i vs. Middle Tennessee
8 p.m., ESPN
Aloha Stadium, Honolulu

Dec. 26

St. Petersburg Bowl
Miami (Ohio) vs. Mississippi State
11 a.m., ESPN
Tropicana Field, St. Petersburg, Fla.

Quick Lane Bowl
Maryland vs. Boston College
2:30 p.m., ESPN
Ford Field, Detroit

Camping World Independence Bowl
NC State vs. Vanderbilt
5 p.m., ESPN2
Independence Stadium, Shreveport, La.

Dec. 27

Zaxby's Heart of Dallas Bowl
Army vs. North Texas
12 p.m., ESPN
Cotton Bowl, Dallas

Military Bowl Presented by Northrop Grumman
No. 24 Temple vs. Wake Forest
3:30 p.m., ESPN
Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium, Annapolis, Md.

National Funding Holiday Bowl
Minnesota vs. Washington State
7 p.m., ESPN
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego

Motel 6 Cactus Bowl
Boise State vs. Baylor
10:15 p.m., ESPN
Chase Field, Phoenix

Dec. 28

New Era Pinstripe Bowl
No. 23 Pittsburgh vs. Northwestern
2 p.m., ESPN
Yankee Stadium, Bronx, N.Y.

Russell Athletic Bowl
No. 16 West Virginia vs. Miami
5:30 p.m., ESPN
Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Fla.

Foster Farms Bowl
Indiana vs. No. 19 Utah
8:30 p.m., Fox
Levi's Stadium, Santa Clara, Calif.

AdvoCare V100 Texas Bowl
Texas A&M vs. Kansas State
9 p.m., ESPN
NRG Stadium, Houston

Dec. 29

Birmingham Bowl
South Florida vs. South Carolina
2 p.m., ESPN
Legion Field, Birmingham, Ala.

Belk Bowl
Arkansas vs. No. 22 Virginia Tech
5:30 p.m., ESPN
Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, N.C.

Valero Alamo Bowl
No. 12 Oklahoma State vs. No. 10 Colorado
9 p.m., ESPN
Alamodome, San Antonio

Dec. 30

AutoZone Liberty Bowl
Georgia vs. TCU
12 p.m., ESPN
Liberty Bowl Memorial Stadium, Memphis, Tenn.

Hyundai Sun Bowl
No. 18 Stanford vs. North Carolina
2 p.m., CBS
Sun Bowl, El Paso, Texas

Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl
Nebraska vs. No. 21 Tennessee
3:30 p.m., ESPN
Nissan Stadium, Nashville, Tenn.

Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl
South Alabama vs. Air Force
5:30 p.m., Campus Insiders
Arizona Stadium, Tucson, Ariz.

Capital One Orange Bowl
No. 6 Michigan vs. No. 11 Florida State
8 p.m., ESPN
Hard Rock Stadium, Miami Gardens, Fla.

Dec. 31

Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl
No. 20 LSU vs. No. 13 Louisville
11 a.m., ABC
Camping World Stadium, Orlando, Fla.

TaxSlayer Bowl
Georgia Tech vs. Kentucky
11 a.m., ESPN
EverBank Field, Jacksonville, Fla.

College Football Playoff semifinal at the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl
No. 4 Washington vs. No. 1 Alabama
3 p.m., ESPN
Georgia Dome, Atlanta

College Football Playoff semifinal at the PlayStation Fiesta Bowl
No. 3 Ohio State vs. No. 2 Clemson
7 p.m., ESPN
University of Phoenix Stadium, Glendale, Ariz.

Jan. 2

Outback Bowl
No. 17 Florida vs. Iowa
1 p.m., ABC
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla.

Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic
No. 15 Western Michigan vs. No. 8 Wisconsin
1 p.m., ESPN
AT&T Stadium, Arlington, Texas

Rose Bowl Game Presented by Northwestern Mutual
No. 9 USC vs. No. 5 Penn State
5 p.m., ESPN
Rose Bowl, Pasadena, Calif.

Allstate Sugar Bowl
No. 14 Auburn vs. No. 7 Oklahoma
8:30 p.m., ESPN
Mercedes-Benz Superdome, New Orleans

Jan. 9

College Football Playoff National Championship
8 p.m., ESPN
Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Fla.

KCTitus · 12-31-2016, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Bone

Who had a better performance tonight. Ohio State or Mariah Carey?

LOL...I dunno...it's very, very close.

Pitt Gorilla · 12-31-2016, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

8 teams?

If today is any indication, the 2 team BCS format is best.

#1 vs. #2.

Forget the rest.

This. The Championship game will be #1 vs. #2, which is what it should be.

BryanBusby · 01-01-2017, 12:16 AM

Nah the BCS format was shit.

C3HIEF3S · 01-01-2017, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Nah the BCS format was shit.

This. The backlash the NCAA would face going back to this would be epic.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-01-2017, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

This is why it should be a 8 team playoff with the championship game the week before the Super Bowl.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No. Alabama was a consensus #1. If 5 teams have a good argument that they should be #1, then the system messed up. But as it is, every single team had a reason to not be in the playoffs.

I only care if legit top teams miss the boat. If any team misses on the bubble, they should have taken care of business earlier on.

tk13 · 01-01-2017, 01:57 AM

I think with as many conferences as there are, 8 teams wouldn't be terrible, but there'd still be a huge fight over the 8 seed, just like there is over #4 now. You're just kicking the can down the road.

More importantly, would there be as many upsets? College football doesn't feel quite as upset prone as basketball. Would you be playing a bunch of extra games for nothing?

BryanBusby · 01-01-2017, 02:19 AM

Why have 5 power conferences if there isn't a mathematical probability each champion can't be represented in a tournament to determine the best team?

ILChief · 01-01-2017, 08:12 AM

I always wanted a playoff, but since it has become a reality, I'm less interested in college football than I have ever been. I don't know why, as I know it's a better system. Maybe it's nostalgia and not liking what used to be the big games like the Rose and Orange Bowls get no coverage. Maybe it is Alabama fatigue. I know the formerly major bowls host the playoff games, but I couldn't tell you which "bowls" were played yesterday. Maybe it's the playoff games being played on New Year's Eve. I don't know if going to 8 teams makes it more or less appealing

Reerun_KC · 01-01-2017, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Why have 5 power conferences if there isn't a mathematical probability each champion can't be represented in a tournament to determine the best team?

Big 12 isn't a power conference in football.

FloridaMan88 · 01-01-2017, 10:38 AM

The FCS has a 24 team playoff that balances an emphasis on winning your conference championship (participating conference winners get an automatic bid to the playoffs) with the opportunity to still make the playoffs if you have a good overall resume but don't win your conference (with 14 at large bids).

Also the FCS playoffs don't have 30+ days between games like the FBS playoff games do (from the end of the regular season to the playoff games), and the FCS National Championship Game takes place two days before the FBS National Championship Game does.

Why can't the FBS replicate the FCS playoff format?

BryanBusby · 01-01-2017, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Big 12 isn't a power conference in football.

Well by on field quality, no. But I suppose they are in a technical sense.

GloucesterChief · 01-01-2017, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The FCS has a 24 team playoff that balances an emphasis on winning your conference championship (participating conference winners get an automatic bid to the playoffs) with the opportunity to still make the playoffs if you have a good overall resume but don't win your conference (with 14 at large bids).

Also the FCS playoffs don't have 30+ days between games like the FBS playoff games do (from the end of the regular season to the playoff games), and the FCS National Championship Game takes place two days before the FBS National Championship Game does.

Why can't the FBS replicate the FCS playoff format?

The Big 10 conference winner didn't get into the playoffs this year but a Big 10 team did and got wrecked.

NWTF · 01-01-2017, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

8 teams?

If today is any indication, the 2 team BCS format is best.

#1 vs. #2.

Forget the rest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

This. The Championship game will be #1 vs. #2, which is what it should be.

Not necessarily.

Up until the final selection it was 1 Alabama, 2 Ohio St. If it was still the two team format thats probably what it would have been. They moved Ohio St down to 3 as a gesture that winning your conference matters, but in only a two team format I dont think they would have done that.

displacedinMN · 01-02-2017, 12:13 PM

LETS GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FloridaMan88 · 01-02-2017, 01:05 PM

Western Michigan looks overmatched early.

12-05-2016, 12:02 PM
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1707500	I think with as many conferences as there are, 8 teams wouldn't be terrible, but there'd still be a huge fight over the 8 seed, just like there is over #4 now. You're just kicking the can down the road. More importantly, would there be as many upsets? College football doesn't feel quite as upset prone as basketball. Would you be playing a bunch of extra games for nothing?
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01-01-2017, 02:19 AM	#157
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3169900 VARSITY	Why have 5 power conferences if there isn't a mathematical probability each champion can't be represented in a tournament to determine the best team?
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ILChief MVP Join Date: Jan 2001 Casino cash: $7774831	I always wanted a playoff, but since it has become a reality, I'm less interested in college football than I have ever been. I don't know why, as I know it's a better system. Maybe it's nostalgia and not liking what used to be the big games like the Rose and Orange Bowls get no coverage. Maybe it is Alabama fatigue. I know the formerly major bowls host the playoff games, but I couldn't tell you which "bowls" were played yesterday. Maybe it's the playoff games being played on New Year's Eve. I don't know if going to 8 teams makes it more or less appealing
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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-557094	The FCS has a 24 team playoff that balances an emphasis on winning your conference championship (participating conference winners get an automatic bid to the playoffs) with the opportunity to still make the playoffs if you have a good overall resume but don't win your conference (with 14 at large bids). Also the FCS playoffs don't have 30+ days between games like the FBS playoff games do (from the end of the regular season to the playoff games), and the FCS National Championship Game takes place two days before the FBS National Championship Game does. Why can't the FBS replicate the FCS playoff format?
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