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Old 10-03-2016, 08:36 PM  
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"Is Having Alex Smith the Worst Purgatory in Football?"--Dan LeBatard

He mentioned it a few times on his radio show today. The quotes in reference is from the top of the second hour. in full:

"What is the worst purgatory in football? Is it Alex Smith, where you're going to be OK, and hugely boring, and never win anything, or is it the whole Philip Rivers situation of always being down late and having to go the whole length of the field?"

"It's not Hell; it's Purgatory. You're OK, but you're not good enough and you're not going to be good enough."

"You're not going to do any sort of meaningful winning with Alex Smith as your QB. Nothing."

"It's hard to watch when you watch what they were playing against and he's, 'all I wanna do is not turn the ball over, all I wanna do is it's 3rd and 9 and I'll throw it three yards, or I'll take a sack.'"

"You'll get to the playoffs, and you'll lose."
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:06 AM   #151
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Old 01-16-2017, 09:09 AM   #152
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:37 PM   #153
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:41 PM   #154
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Prophetic article.
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Old 01-16-2017, 12:45 PM   #155
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Yep. This fan base is made up of alot True Fan losers. Hell a vast majority of them and alot on this board loved and defended Cassel. That is how much they know about QB's.

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Old 01-16-2017, 12:51 PM   #156
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"Need more fatties up front."
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Yep. This fan base made up of alot True Fan losers. Hell a vast majority of them and alot on this board loved and defended Cassel. That is how much they know about QB's.
Removing myself from rabid, entrenched fandom has really helped me see this from a more objective viewpoint.

A lot of people identify themselves with the team, and attach personal worth to the success of the team. Therefore, when someone criticizes their team they aren't just talking shit about a sports franchise--it's a personal insult. I believe that is why so many are unwilling to make hard, objective observations about the status of their favorite teams, because to admit that they are substandard is to admit one's own failings.

If you're a kid or in your 20's, I understand living and dying with the team to an extent. But once you're an adult, a real adult, you've got real world shit to deal with, and spilling so much emotion and time into an entertainment product is probably a losing proposition, especially if you look at the kind of product the Chiefs have offered to their customers.

If the Patriots, Broncos, and Packers are Wal-Mart or Costco, the Chiefs are Pamida.
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Old 01-16-2017, 01:19 PM   #158
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Removing myself from rabid, entrenched fandom has really helped me see this from a more objective viewpoint.

A lot of people identify themselves with the team, and attach personal worth to the success of the team. Therefore, when someone criticizes their team they aren't just talking shit about a sports franchise--it's a personal insult. I believe that is why so many are unwilling to make hard, objective observations about the status of their favorite teams, because to admit that they are substandard is to admit one's own failings.

If you're a kid or in your 20's, I understand living and dying with the team to an extent. But once you're an adult, a real adult, you've got real world shit to deal with, and spilling so much emotion and time into an entertainment product is probably a losing proposition, especially if you look at the kind of product the Chiefs have offered to their customers.

If the Patriots, Broncos, and Packers are Wal-Mart or Costco, the Chiefs are Pamida.
Excellent post. I would say though I was a true die hard Chiefs fan in my twenties\early thirties but I have always been a realist. I was semi-smart enough to know that Bono and Grbac were shit castoff QB's and they would never win with those guys unless the defense held teams to 10 pts or less. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to compare your QB's against the other elite QB's in the league to see there is a huge disparity.

Probably why as I have gotten older it has become easier to be less emotionally involved because I know unless you go draft a franchise QB you aren't winning shit.

Grunhard said something really smart this morning, he said Alex could take your team to the SB if you have an elite defense, but those defenses only come around once a decade. The other 9 seasons are won by franchise QB's.

Game over..
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Switch Ben with Alex last night and we mostblikely still lose. He had literally all day to scan the field. Our Oline coupled with no pressure left little room for error. I'm all for upgrading at any position, but the ones who would be upgrades are not going to be available.

Upgrade where you can actually improve.
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He's not an elite QB....never was and never will be.

He's a game manager.

It's a combination of him and Reid. Doug Pederson left and is in Philly kicking ass w/ a rookie QB. Alex Smith is a 11yr NFL veteran QB with an average ceiling who's started just about every season of his career. You won't find many other QB's with more starting experience than Smith. The ones who have just as much or more starting experience you could argue are better than Smith.

Brady
Roethlisberger
Rivers
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Rodgers
(.....even a healthy Tony Romo)

4 out of the 6 QB's listed above are SB winning QB's, and you can argue the other 2 are still better than AS.

Smith isn't going to throw any passes longer than 15-20yrs. That's a problem. I dont know if it's Reid not trusting Smith to go deep, or if Smith doesn't have the balls to, or if Reid has such tunnel vision that those plays don't even get called or if it's a lethal combination of everything. But it's a huge ****in' problem. Something has to change.

But one thing's for sure. Reid's not giving the playcalling duties to anyone else and there's no way in hell Alex Smith is being benched.
This is purgatory.
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With the Royals rise back, baseball has my attention as my sport now. I gave up my Chiefs season tickets after having them 10 years. Would much rather go to a MLB game on both sides of the state over NFL. Baseball games are so much more enjoyable to attend.
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:23 PM   #162
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:28 PM   #163
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Removing myself from rabid, entrenched fandom has really helped me see this from a more objective viewpoint.

A lot of people identify themselves with the team, and attach personal worth to the success of the team. Therefore, when someone criticizes their team they aren't just talking shit about a sports franchise--it's a personal insult. I believe that is why so many are unwilling to make hard, objective observations about the status of their favorite teams, because to admit that they are substandard is to admit one's own failings.

If you're a kid or in your 20's, I understand living and dying with the team to an extent. But once you're an adult, a real adult, you've got real world shit to deal with, and spilling so much emotion and time into an entertainment product is probably a losing proposition, especially if you look at the kind of product the Chiefs have offered to their customers.

If the Patriots, Broncos, and Packers are Wal-Mart or Costco, the Chiefs are Pamida.

Absolutely nailed it.


I call them "losers".
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Old 01-16-2017, 06:32 PM   #164
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Absolutely nailed it.


I call them "losers".
Some of those people are so young that they just haven't lived it. I would imagine the majority of the people on this board lived through the 90's and have experienced it enough.

I experienced the 90's as a kid and it didn't quite resonate but it's just recently kicked me. I bought into Andy bc he was a successful coach and thought this would be different.

I still believe in him but only if he gets rid of Alex and gets a real QB. I'm broken
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Some of those people are so young that they just haven't lived it. I would imagine the majority of the people on this board lived through the 90's and have experienced it enough.

I experienced the 90's as a kid and it didn't quite resonate but it's just recently kicked me. I bought into Andy bc he was a successful coach and thought this would be different.

I still believe in him but only if he gets rid of Alex and gets a real QB. I'm broken
And some of them are so old, my age even, and they spent the last 3 weeks hopping around the board, tailing people who dared even raise to the idea that Alex Smith was shit, and Andy a post-season loser, incessantly flapping their raging vagina lips, spouting nonsense about Alex Smith being a "franchise QB", even.

And they can straight go get ****ed, as it pleases me to no end to see their absurd sand castle come crashing down to the ground around them.

****ing idiots.
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