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Old 03-03-2017, 01:39 PM  
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Patrick Mahomes met with Chiefs





This is relevant because Miller is pretty close with the Chiefs in general.

They have also met with Watson (as Clay showed), and Trubisky.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:06 PM   #121
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Love Terez, but his belief has exactly zero bearing on what will happen.

They'll wait until the 3rd round at the earliest to pull the trigger on some slapdick with a backup QB upside. Nothing more.
****ing moron. They aren't meeting with every single QB for no reason, but continue to be an ignorant fool.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:06 PM   #122
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Love Terez, but his belief has exactly zero bearing on what will happen.

They'll wait until the 3rd round at the earliest to pull the trigger on some slapdick with a backup QB upside. Nothing more.
He did not say they will. Just thinks they could. Pretty good article.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:15 PM   #123
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The only QB I'm interested in KC drafting is Mahomes.

I know he's a raw prospect, but everything he lacks is coachable and KC has a huge coaching staff that are all great teachers.

I really like his playing style and I think it closely resembles Favre and he has a bit of McNabb in him, too.

If KC drafts him in the first, he could sit for 1-1/2-2years and be ready to hit the ground running.
I agree.

Kizer's combine performance was lousy and the tape isn't worth a shit either. At some point you have to point to something good and I'm running out of things to look for with Kizer. The frame/stature is so appealing that you want to find a reason to go to the mattresses for him but I cannot find one. I'm running out of reasons to support the guy and he may be one of those kids that suffers a 'Bray-like' slide. Not all the way to UDFA but late 2nd, early 3rd is seeming more and more possible. So maybe a 'Clausen-like' slide.

I still don't trust Watson's mechanics/accuracy.

Trubisky doesn't matter; won't get that far anyway. Safest of the lot, probably gonna be a fine player. If you're extremely lucky you get Matt Ryan out of him, probably in the Andy Dalton sort of range when all is said and done.

Mahomes just looks like a ****ing blast to have around. I think we'd love having him here and I think he presents the most upside. That said, I was all in on Tannehill for a lot of the same reasons and Tannehill just never came together like I thought he would.

As for the rest of that lot of misfit toys, just pull names out of a hat. One of them will be good, the rest of them will be forgotten in 5 years. I damn sure don't want to spend anything higher than a 4th on any of them. Most of these '1st round quarterbacks' are already being pushed up a round based on true talent and the guys you're looking at in the 2nd and 3rd are in some cases pushed up even more than that.

There are years that guys like Dobbs, Kaaya and even Webb go undrafted. The Murrays and Hogans of the world are always sitting around in the 5th; why the hell would I use a 2nd on Peterman?

I've got no problem taking a flyer on one of these guys if the 1st doesn't go how I'd like; like I said, I fully expect one of them to hit. But I have no damn idea which one and using a 2nd on one is crazy talk. Comp 3rd and no higher for these fallback options.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:28 PM   #124
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****ing moron. They aren't meeting with every single QB for no reason, but continue to be an ignorant fool.
"Interest" in Barkley, Glennon, Wilson, Nassib, Dysert, Manuel, Bray and Jones. Sign Bray as a UDFA

Met with Fales, drafted Murray.

Didn't meet with a QB, didn't take a QB.

Met with Lynch, took Hogan.

There's at best a 50% correlation between who the team meets with and who they wind up offering a contract to.

But go ahead and call me a moron, Dane Jr.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:39 PM   #125
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"Interest" in Barkley, Glennon, Wilson, Nassib, Dysert, Manuel, Bray and Jones. Sign Bray as a UDFA

Met with Fales, drafted Murray.

Didn't meet with a QB, didn't take a QB.

Met with Lynch, took Hogan.

There's at best a 50% correlation between who the team meets with and who they wind up offering a contract to.

But go ahead and call me a moron, Dane Jr.
You do realize that only one of the guys you named was a 1st round prospect while the Chiefs have met with 4 this year, right?

Anyways, I'm not just talking about rumored interest and shit. I'm talking about formal interviews at the combine. Terez even points out the fact that it's significant in comparison to our recent history in the article. But never mind that, continue to believe that the history of this team has anything to do with future decision making, dipshit.

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Old 03-07-2017, 03:14 PM   #126
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I agree.

Kizer's combine performance was lousy and the tape isn't worth a shit either. At some point you have to point to something good and I'm running out of things to look for with Kizer. The frame/stature is so appealing that you want to find a reason to go to the mattresses for him but I cannot find one. I'm running out of reasons to support the guy and he may be one of those kids that suffers a 'Bray-like' slide. Not all the way to UDFA but late 2nd, early 3rd is seeming more and more possible. So maybe a 'Clausen-like' slide.

I still don't trust Watson's mechanics/accuracy.

Trubisky doesn't matter; won't get that far anyway. Safest of the lot, probably gonna be a fine player. If you're extremely lucky you get Matt Ryan out of him, probably in the Andy Dalton sort of range when all is said and done.

Mahomes just looks like a ****ing blast to have around. I think we'd love having him here and I think he presents the most upside. That said, I was all in on Tannehill for a lot of the same reasons and Tannehill just never came together like I thought he would.

As for the rest of that lot of misfit toys, just pull names out of a hat. One of them will be good, the rest of them will be forgotten in 5 years. I damn sure don't want to spend anything higher than a 4th on any of them. Most of these '1st round quarterbacks' are already being pushed up a round based on true talent and the guys you're looking at in the 2nd and 3rd are in some cases pushed up even more than that.

There are years that guys like Dobbs, Kaaya and even Webb go undrafted. The Murrays and Hogans of the world are always sitting around in the 5th; why the hell would I use a 2nd on Peterman?

I've got no problem taking a flyer on one of these guys if the 1st doesn't go how I'd like; like I said, I fully expect one of them to hit. But I have no damn idea which one and using a 2nd on one is crazy talk. Comp 3rd and no higher for these fallback options.
I think Kizer has a high ceiling but he's got a lower floor than anyone else. He showed flashes in 2015 but Kelly is a ****ing moron and that team was young in 2016. I hope he falls to us....but everybody would have to be ready for him to sit at the very minimum....1 season. He'd probably need two to be 100% ready.
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:47 PM   #127
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I think Kizer has a high ceiling but he's got a lower floor than anyone else. He showed flashes in 2015 but Kelly is a ****ing moron and that team was young in 2016. I hope he falls to us....but everybody would have to be ready for him to sit at the very minimum....1 season. He'd probably need two to be 100% ready.
I feel like it is all about how high the ceiling and how likely to reach that high ceiling. Who cares about a low or high floor when you know anything less than reaching his ceiling or close to it will be insufficient and will need to be replaced. As Mayock would say, you got to keep swinging until you get that QB who will reach his high ceiling.

I mean you don't want to be stuck with dreadful QB play for years but ultimately, it is all about getting a QB who will become a top 10, max top 15 QB in the NFL.
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I think Kizer has a high ceiling but he's got a lower floor than anyone else. He showed flashes in 2015 but Kelly is a ****ing moron and that team was young in 2016. I hope he falls to us....but everybody would have to be ready for him to sit at the very minimum....1 season. He'd probably need two to be 100% ready.
Not having watched any Golden Domer football last season, how did Kelly misuse the kid?
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Not having watched any Golden Domer football last season, how did Kelly misuse the kid?
A couple of examples?

Constantly switching between Kizer and Zaire.

The North Carolina State game. Pouring ****ing rain and windy as shit. Kelly proceeds to have Kizer throw the ball 26 times and then blames him after the game for not doing more. Oh and he pulled Kizer for 3 series for Zaire....who couldn't do shit.
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A couple of examples?

Constantly switching between Kizer and Zaire.

The North Carolina State game. Pouring ****ing rain and windy as shit. Kelly proceeds to have Kizer throw the ball 26 times and then blames him after the game for not doing more. Oh and he pulled Kizer for 3 series for Zaire....who couldn't do shit.
Are you a believer that he has more to offer than what he showed at ND?
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Are you a believer that he has more to offer than what he showed at ND?
I don't think that's even debatable.
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I don't think that's even debatable.
Like I said, I haven't seen a single snap of his college ball. So is that a yes?
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Are you a believer that he has more to offer than what he showed at ND?
**** yes. But like I said....he'll need to sit at least a year.
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This is him as a redshirt freshman. I think his 2015 reel is what you'll get with Kizer. I'm just a homer though....so keep that in mind.

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JMO....but I think he could be the next McNabb for Reid.
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