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Old 06-25-2017, 08:37 AM  
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Teicher: Chiefs seem adrift while Raiders ride momentum
Chiefs seem adrift while Raiders ride momentum

Adam Teicher
ESPN Staff Writer



KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The most notable event of the week for one AFC West favorite came when the Oakland Raiders signed their franchise quarterback, Derek Carr, to a five-year contract extension.

The most notable event of the week for the division's other top contender came when the Kansas City Chiefs announced -- one month before the start of training camp -- they were looking to hire a new general manager.

Talk about a tale of two franchises. Carr and Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie were all smiles at Friday's news conference to announce the quarterback's contract. Carr, even though he's now the highest-paid player in NFL history, talked about his desire to leave some money for teammates who are also due for a raise. McKenzie talked about his desire to get that accomplished.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs hid behind a prepared statement that didn't explain their reasons for letting go of general manager John Dorsey.

In Oakland, they have a plan. With Carr signed for the long term, McKenzie and the Raiders are free to secure some of their other good, young players such as linebacker Khalil Mack, offensive lineman Gabe Jackson and wide receiver Amari Cooper.

In Kansas City, the Chiefs don't have a plan or if they do, they need a better one. Looking for a GM with training camp looming should never be a part of the script.

The week's developments in Oakland and in Kansas City won't necessarily determine the course of the AFC West race in 2017 and for years to come. They will make things more difficult for the Chiefs, who tied with the Raiders at 12-4 last season but won the AFC West title because they swept the two games against Oakland.

Both teams until recently looked as if they had sustainability. The Raiders have many good, young players and the financial resources to keep them around for a while. The Chiefs are well coached by Andy Reid and his staff and also have a talented roster that was being continually restocked because of Dorsey's smart drafting. The Chiefs in April drafted Patrick Mahomes II, perhaps giving them an eventual franchise quarterback of their own.

Suddenly, it's natural to wonder about the Chiefs, who don't look as if they're being guided by any well-thought-out plan. Early in June, they released their most accomplished and experienced wide receiver, Jeremy Maclin, two years after signing him as a free agent.

Now, after discussing a contract extension with Dorsey earlier in the offseason, they're looking for his replacement. That task is more daunting given the mixed results from chairman Clark Hunt in hiring GMs. Dorsey was a good hire. The previous general manager, Scott Pioli, was not.

Hunt needs to get this one right. The Chiefs have to keep up with their rivals in Oakland, who have a general manager, money to burn and a smart plan.

The Chiefs, for the moment, have none of the three.


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Old 06-25-2017, 10:36 AM   #31
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We are not adrift. It gives that appearance because we used two 1sts to put a franchise QB on the bench while releasing Charles and Maclin. All those moves were good business decisions
We will replace Dorsey with a person Clark hand picks and we will keep adding to the best 53 man roster in the NFL. Dorsey was not God but he did a damn fine job and I would rather him still be here for the next 5 years with Reid.

The Broncos are going to spiral down as long as Elway is in charge. All he had was Manning and Mannings ability to recruit high level players. That's gone and so is their coaching staff which was replaced by a bucket of Hog shit.

The Raiders are moving the right direction and are going to be fun to play for the next 10 years. They got their QB. But it's really all they got. Yeah they have some talented players but not a talented team and Del Rio will NEVER out coach Andy Reid. Just like last year if Carr gets hurt they're a 5-11 team. Lynch doesn't scare me , we can contain him and he'll sputter out the 2nd half.

The Chargers are a wild card. Healthy they are 10 wins.
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Old 06-25-2017, 10:40 AM   #32
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I wouldn't call firing your GM, that was an important part of turning the organization around, a small thing.
Neither would I.

Which is why the reaction is even more ridiculous than usual.

Most are just speculating wildly about whatever they can to blame whoever they desire.
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The Chiefs aren't adrift, but they lost one hell of a ship engineer.
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Old 06-25-2017, 10:57 AM   #34
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Adrift? This article is full of crap. Our entire coaching staff is still here, so how does that put us adrift or mean there is no plan. It's not good what Clark did for right now but hardly will ruin the next few years. There are other good GMs and better ones that won't ruin our cap.

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Teicher has never been a KC "supporter", but what have they done to gain his support?


1 playoff win in a billion ****ing years. I don't blame him.
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Old 06-25-2017, 11:44 AM   #36
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Like I said a few weeks ago, the Broncos are already way ahead of the Chiefs in their QB development process. .
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They did a great job of addressing their weaknesses in run defense and on the OL. Butt could be a huge plus.
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Old 06-25-2017, 11:50 AM   #38
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Clay is a secret Bronco fan this is nothing new.

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"Denver's new draft picks, HC, DC and potentially new QB who all have little or no experience at all will be really great! Such an improvement!"
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Certainly far better than our offseason.
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Paxton Lynch is a ****ing awful QB that learned nothing in the offseason. I don't know how many times i need to say this. The league caught on to Semen and he had an awful second half as well. They have nothing at QB.
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Paxton Lynch is a ****ing awful QB that learned nothing in the offseason. I don't know how many times i need to say this. The league caught on to Semen and he had an awful second half as well. They have nothing at QB.


Because Siemian can't get better?

Even if that were true, that's still better than the Chiefs, where we are A YEAR AWAY from even beginning to figure out if we have a QB or not.

Please check your double standards at the door.
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We are not adrift. It gives that appearance because we used two 1sts to put a franchise QB on the bench while releasing Charles and Maclin. All those moves were good business decisions
We will replace Dorsey with a person Clark hand picks and we will keep adding to the best 53 man roster in the NFL. Dorsey was not God but he did a damn fine job and I would rather him still be here for the next 5 years with Reid.

The Broncos are going to spiral down as long as Elway is in charge. All he had was Manning and Mannings ability to recruit high level players. That's gone and so is their coaching staff which was replaced by a bucket of Hog shit.

The Raiders are moving the right direction and are going to be fun to play for the next 10 years. They got their QB. But it's really all they got. Yeah they have some talented players but not a talented team and Del Rio will NEVER out coach Andy Reid. Just like last year if Carr gets hurt they're a 5-11 team. Lynch doesn't scare me , we can contain him and he'll sputter out the 2nd half.

The Chargers are a wild card. Healthy they are 10 wins.
Excellent post Hog !! Del Rio is Del Rio and we are in the Raiders head. Lynch is Osweiller II with a bit more athleticism and my bet is Stephenson starts at LT until Boles gets his feet underneath him if at all and Watson has proven to be soft and will remain soft IMHO. Now to your point, a healthy Chargers team is the team we will be battling for 1st in the division IMHO. McCoy never had a healthy team when he was there and granted every NFL team has their injuries but McCoy's teams were decimated in his 3 yrs there and he was still the most competitive under 500 club you did not want to face at the end of the season.
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Because Siemian can't get better?

Even if that were true, that's still better than the Chiefs, where we are A YEAR AWAY from even beginning to figure out if we have a QB or not.

Please check your double standards at the door.
No, they really aren't. They would kill for even sn Alex level QB...
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