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Old 06-25-2017, 08:37 AM  
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Teicher: Chiefs seem adrift while Raiders ride momentum
Chiefs seem adrift while Raiders ride momentum

Adam Teicher
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The most notable event of the week for one AFC West favorite came when the Oakland Raiders signed their franchise quarterback, Derek Carr, to a five-year contract extension.

The most notable event of the week for the division's other top contender came when the Kansas City Chiefs announced -- one month before the start of training camp -- they were looking to hire a new general manager.

Talk about a tale of two franchises. Carr and Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie were all smiles at Friday's news conference to announce the quarterback's contract. Carr, even though he's now the highest-paid player in NFL history, talked about his desire to leave some money for teammates who are also due for a raise. McKenzie talked about his desire to get that accomplished.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs hid behind a prepared statement that didn't explain their reasons for letting go of general manager John Dorsey.

In Oakland, they have a plan. With Carr signed for the long term, McKenzie and the Raiders are free to secure some of their other good, young players such as linebacker Khalil Mack, offensive lineman Gabe Jackson and wide receiver Amari Cooper.

In Kansas City, the Chiefs don't have a plan or if they do, they need a better one. Looking for a GM with training camp looming should never be a part of the script.

The week's developments in Oakland and in Kansas City won't necessarily determine the course of the AFC West race in 2017 and for years to come. They will make things more difficult for the Chiefs, who tied with the Raiders at 12-4 last season but won the AFC West title because they swept the two games against Oakland.

Both teams until recently looked as if they had sustainability. The Raiders have many good, young players and the financial resources to keep them around for a while. The Chiefs are well coached by Andy Reid and his staff and also have a talented roster that was being continually restocked because of Dorsey's smart drafting. The Chiefs in April drafted Patrick Mahomes II, perhaps giving them an eventual franchise quarterback of their own.

Suddenly, it's natural to wonder about the Chiefs, who don't look as if they're being guided by any well-thought-out plan. Early in June, they released their most accomplished and experienced wide receiver, Jeremy Maclin, two years after signing him as a free agent.

Now, after discussing a contract extension with Dorsey earlier in the offseason, they're looking for his replacement. That task is more daunting given the mixed results from chairman Clark Hunt in hiring GMs. Dorsey was a good hire. The previous general manager, Scott Pioli, was not.

Hunt needs to get this one right. The Chiefs have to keep up with their rivals in Oakland, who have a general manager, money to burn and a smart plan.

The Chiefs, for the moment, have none of the three.


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Old 06-25-2017, 04:20 PM   #76
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Old 06-25-2017, 04:54 PM   #77
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The Broncos are way behind the Chiefs. Less talented 53, brand new first time HC, first time DC, first year starting QB (if/when Lynch starts).

The Chiefs coaching staff has been together for 4 years and proven to be elite.
Elite? Really?
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Old 06-25-2017, 05:02 PM   #78
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Last week--Dorsey greatest evah GM, chefs gonna dominate fo-evah! harpy-derp, derp...

This week--Dorsey gone, no biggie, still have fatty and air raid QB who's done zip in NFL.
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Old 06-25-2017, 05:02 PM   #79
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Elite? Really?
You're here, aren't you?

I'd bet money that Chiefs fans don't hang out on rival boards.
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I'd bet money that Chiefs fans don't hang out on rival boards.
You would lose. There are how many posts about what is or has been going on at the Mange posted on this board so that we can laugh at them. I bet there are at least 25 members, Chiefs fans, that have memberships and post somewhat regularly on the Mange.
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The NFL had an agenda going back to last off-season. I had never seen so much hype for a 7-9 team who's wins came against the 5-11 Ravens, 3-13 Browns, 4-12 Chargers (x2), 3-13 Titans. Their most impressive win was against the Jets.

There was nothing there to say..gee, this team is on the cusp of greatness. Not a breakout game performance...nothing. Every talking head got their bullet points and starting pimping them...it smelled fowl.

The Raider mania was completely manufactured due to a pending stadium deal/relocation. In the past two seasons, their most impressive win was against the Texans in Mexico...which was greatly aided by the officials.

They haven't beaten anyone worth a shit in two seasons but are now being hyped as a possible SB contender.

They outscored their opponent 42-0 in the final 3 minutes last season in their comeback wins. The fix was in...

Oakland is an average team that the NFL WANTS to appear good...and if you tell suckers the sky is red enough times..they will start to believe it.

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Old 06-25-2017, 05:27 PM   #82
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Of course. ...they owned the former sb champs last year
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Old 06-25-2017, 06:41 PM   #84
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Teicher is a sad-sack mother****er....if he can spin something negative, he will. Dude is a rodent...

Raiders are champions of the world..they just spent $25 million on a QB they already had...that cant beat good teams and signed a 300lb retired RB. Their defense still sucks and have no MLB. What exactly did they do to make them world-beaters this off-season?

KC upgraded at NT, get Bailey/Houston back and had an entire off-season to work Hill into the fold. Jones looks like a star.

The Raider hype is getting ridiculous...it look multiple miracle late 4th quarter comebacks for them to beat average teams. This year, their schedule is actually hard...
I thought it was all rigged. Why do you care?

You might as well be bitching about how the WWE is pushing Brock Lesnar or Alexa Bliss.
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Old 06-25-2017, 06:54 PM   #85
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I thought it was all rigged. Why do you care?

You might as well be bitching about how the WWE is pushing Brock Lesnar or Alexa Bliss.
Because I like the off-season...and hating the Raiders in ingrained in my psyche.

I enjoy pointing out how ****ing rigged the Raiders to Vegas hype is...and the numbers support it.

As was pointed out in another thread....the two best teams Carr has defeated both had Osweiler as QB. (Broncos/Texans). It's just ridiculous how easy it is to sway people's perception...that they are a legitimate SB contender. They haven't beaten anyone...

They looked like garbage against KC in both games yet the talking heads keep acting like it didnt happen...and Oakland is the team to beat.
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Because I like the off-season...and hating the Raiders in ingrained in my psyche.

I enjoy pointing out how ****ing rigged the Raiders to Vegas hype is...and the numbers support it.

As was pointed out in another thread....the two best teams Carr has defeated both had Osweiler as QB. (Broncos/Texans). It's just ridiculous how easy it is to sway people's perception...that they are a legitimate SB contender. They haven't beaten anyone...
If they win or lose they're just doing the bidding of the Jesuits regardless, right?
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If they win or lose they're just doing the bidding of the Jesuits regardless, right?
We all are...
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