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Old 11-08-2017, 08:56 PM  
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Jerry Jones, potential lawsuit vs NFL
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Old 11-10-2017, 05:44 PM   #31
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I still can't believe people get mad at Goodell. He does what the owners want FFS.
He has no obligation to be the punishment dictator. Almost every dumb licensing deal and media saturation deal reeks of his fingerprints. It takes clueless owners to agree. But let's not doubt for a second he has his fingerprints all over the mess of today's NFL.
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Old 11-10-2017, 06:03 PM   #32
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And Elliott is probably a sleaze, probably guilty but it's all hearsay as of now until someone says it under oath.[/QUOTE]

As someone who actually knows a member of Zeke's family who knows the whole story, I will say this.
The crazy b!tch stalked Zeke for over a year after they hooked up once or twice. He never layed a hand on her, the injuries she sustained was in a bar fight with another crazy b!tch.
Zeke should of known better and should of handled it better than he did. But sometimes young men think with the wrong head and being a stud athlete in college makes you a prime target. Legally he was cleared so I personally think the NFL should back off as well.
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Old 11-10-2017, 06:49 PM   #33
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What a ****ing snake. Applauded NFL overreach of Deflategate. Said NFL made the right correction on suspending Ray Rice. But when it's his own player, he goes ape shit. It's one thing to at least attempt to look out for the shield. You can't applaud going after other team's players then go ballistic when that same standard is applied to your own player.
Same guy who had no problem signing Greg Hardy and was perfectly fine with Michael Irvin committing attempted murder over a spot in line at the barbershop.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a bigger scumbag in sports than Jerry Jones.
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Old 11-10-2017, 10:35 PM   #34
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No, **** the 31 owners who are okay with extending Goodell’s contract. This is madness. No sports commissioner is universally hated like this. It’s a terrible look and just the optics of a guy getting mercilessly booed everywhere he goes should be enough to make an extension a no-go. Plus he’s terrible at his job.
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:16 AM   #35
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Same guy who had no problem signing Greg Hardy and was perfectly fine with Michael Irvin committing attempted murder over a spot in line at the barbershop.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a bigger scumbag in sports than Jerry Jones.
If that’s your case for Jones being a scumbag you must despise Clark Hunt as well.
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Old 11-12-2017, 02:09 AM   #36
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That wasn’t the job of the last commissioner, and I don’t remember people hating the owners. With Goodell I actually have reason to be pissed at the owners. I blame his incompetence on their incompetence. It’s pure idiocy.
You're right, Tagliabue's job was to actually commission. But the scene has changed, along with the job description. Blame Twitter, the media, and an overall leftists attack on the league for this.
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:51 AM   #37
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He has no obligation to be the punishment dictator. Almost every dumb licensing deal and media saturation deal reeks of his fingerprints. It takes clueless owners to agree. But let's not doubt for a second he has his fingerprints all over the mess of today's NFL.

Seeing someone get mad at Goodell is like seeing someone argue with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog instead of Robert Smigel.


You honestly believe that 32 billionaire owners and their armies of lawyers are somehow being hoodwinked by that ginger douche?
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:40 AM   #38
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Seeing someone get mad at Goodell is like seeing someone argue with Triumph the Insult Comic Dog instead of Robert Smigel.


You honestly believe that 32 billionaire owners and their armies of lawyers are somehow being hoodwinked by that ginger douche?
Did the owners have this much power over tagliabue? Do other leagues give owners this much power? Goodell is a disaster. The only reason this shit is happening is because Goodell installed a stupid ass punishment system where he acts as dictator. Not only does he alone decide who he punishes, he does it wildly inconstently. At work we call a guy like Goodell a shiny object chaser. Other leagues don't have this problem because they have a standardized, consistent system for punishing players that isn't influenced by owner politics.

The decision to protect the nfl shield in this manner may have been approved by the owners, but the execution has Goodells fingerprints all over it.
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You're right, Tagliabue's job was to actually commission. But the scene has changed, along with the job description. Blame Twitter, the media, and an overall leftists attack on the league for this.
Right, that's the problem. Liberals and the media.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:32 PM   #40
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Right, that's the problem. Liberals and the media.
I said change, not problem. Don't project your bias on me.

The political and media climate today is irrefutably more hostile than it was under Tagliabue's leadership
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:44 PM   #41
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Brady and the Pat had to do with the "Game"

Elliott's suspension has do do with what he did in his private life. Just the public's veiw of the NFL's players.

I don't think they are the same. If Elliott has plead the matter down,
taken a SOS, or gone to trial and facts were substantiated as truth then Goodell would have a leg to stand on. Guilty verdict on the crime or not.
I'm not particularly keen on the NFL sitting in judgement on what players do in private. (If you have an office/desk job, should your boss suspend you for four weeks if you are arrested for DUI over the weekend?).

But given how fans react, I'm not surprised that the NFL does this. Innocent until proven guilty sounds good but it is not very viable in practice. The criminal system usually moves really slowly and the guilty beyond reasonable doubt with 12 jurors is a very high standard. If you are going to wait until you have guilty verdict from a criminal courtroom, the fans will still hate that the league is letting a player that is "known" to have done "x" on the field.
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