Chiefs MELLINGER: Dear Chiefs fans: C'mon, it's not that bad ... - Page 15

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-20-2018, 09:49 AM

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12-22-2018, 06:59 AM

When the game is close at the end, I want Andy Reid to go full Andy Reid. Play calling must have misdirection. If he wants to run, fine. But don't just line up and run between the tackles. Line up empty. Use motion and keep the defense off balance. If it's a pass, keep one or two backs in the backfield and play fake. Don't go vanilla. That's not Andy Reid at his best.

**BigRedChief** · 12-22-2018, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Moon

When the game is close at the end, I want Andy Reid to go full Andy Reid. Play calling must have misdirection. If he wants to run, fine. But don't just line up and run between the tackles. Line up empty. Use motion and keep the defense off balance. If it's a pass, keep one or two backs in the backfield and play fake. Don't go vanilla. That's not Andy Reid at his best.

THIS! Your going conservative at least dont let them get 9 guys in the box. Put people in motion, hand it off to Hill, for crissakes something different.

TwistedChief · 12-22-2018, 09:04 AM

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Exactamundo. Unless the game is basically 99% probability of a win, you let Mahomes be mahomes. Don't ask mahomes to be Alex Smith.

Is it possible Reid is going to figure this out? Realistically, he hasn't yet in his career as a coach, but this is the first time he's had the NFL's best offensive weapon(s) at his disposal while having an atrocious defense. Is it possible the game against the Chargers finally convinces him to be more aggressive? It seems so blatantly obvious that you "roll" (to use a Reid-ism) with what got you there.

Reerun_KC · 12-22-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 007

You can definitely tell when he starts taking over play calling in the games.

This...... end result is usually less than desirable when Fat Andy is calling the plays.

milkman · 12-22-2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

This...... end result is usually less than desirable when Fat Andy is calling the plays.

I was under the impression that Andy hasn't given up any of the play calling this season.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-22-2018, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I was under the impression that Andy hasn't given up any of the play calling this season.

He hasn’t

Reerun_KC · 12-22-2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I was under the impression that Andy hasn't given up any of the play calling this season.

chiefzilla1501 · 12-22-2018, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Is it possible Reid is going to figure this out? Realistically, he hasn't yet in his career as a coach, but this is the first time he's had the NFL's best offensive weapon(s) at his disposal while having an atrocious defense. Is it possible the game against the Chargers finally convinces him to be more aggressive? It seems so blatantly obvious that you "roll" (to use a Reid-ism) with what got you there.

I keep trying to be an optimist. But after 20 or so years... It's putting a lot of faith that he can change. But I'll stay optimistic. He moved on from Alex Smith. He embraced the spread. Maybe an old dog can learn new tricks.

Reerun_KC · 12-22-2018, 09:24 AM

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I keep trying to be an optimist. But after 20 or so years... It's putting a lot of faith that he can change. But I'll stay optimistic. He moved on from Alex Smith. He embraced the spread. Maybe an old dog can learn new tricks.

He says he will fix it and address the same issues at least 30-40 times... Are you doubting his ability to fix the same issues he said he would fix the last 30-40 times he has been responsible for the same issues?

GloryDayz · 12-22-2018, 10:02 AM

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Mellinger wrote an article just this past January stating that it was time to fire Bob Sutton. He’s not being soft. He’s being realistic.

The Chiefs are flawed, but so is every team in the AFC. They aren’t dead in the water by any means.

I've stated that Bob needs to be fired, so what? A man in his position needs to do more than what he's doing, he's got a platform we don't. Rude as us? No.. But he could ramp-up the pressure with each article, closer and close to rude, until the organization has to directly address why he's not fired. IOW, what's he doing right that's keeping him employed? One safety is out, so it's not his fault? Andy spent all the team's energy building an offense, thus sacrificing everything, so it's not his fault? Hunt, Veach, and Reid are giving as a free lesson in what loyalty means? We hired players too stupid to know where to line up, so it's not his fault?

At some point Sam has to get mean, perhaps to the point where they threaten to remove him from the press that has access. And if they do either (remove him, or threaten to remove him [like the Royals did some years back]), then that's one hell of a story...

So a little NYC media might be nice right about now. So we don't have to fly a banner.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 12-22-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I've stated that Bob needs to be fired, so what? A man in his position needs to do more than what he's doing, he's got a platform we don't. Rude as us? No.. But he could ramp-up the pressure with each article, closer and close to rude, until the organization has to directly address why he's not fired. IOW, what's he doing right that's keeping him employed? One safety is out, so it's not his fault? Andy spent all the team's energy building an offense, thus sacrificing everything, so it's not his fault? Hunt, Veach, and Reid are giving as a free lesson in what loyalty means? We hired players too stupid to know where to line up, so it's not his fault?

At some point Sam has to get mean, perhaps to the point where they threaten to remove him from the press that has access. And if they do either (remove him, or threaten to remove him [like the Royals did some years back]), then that's one hell of a story...

So a little NYC media might be nice right about now. So we don't have to fly a banner.

Easier said than done. I’m sure if Sutton isn’t fired, you might see some of those articles and questions, but I can’t blame a guy for protecting his own ass with a job that he loves. The story he wrote last year is way more critical than most beat writers would ever do itself.

TwistedChief · 12-22-2018, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Easier said than done. I’m sure if Sutton isn’t fired, you might see some of those articles and questions, but I can’t blame a guy for protecting his own ass with a job that he loves. The story he wrote last year is way more critical than most beat writers would ever do itself.

Not to mention he brings up that he wrote that article and links to it nearly every week in his online Minutes column. It's not like he's hiding from it.

GloryDayz · 12-22-2018, 10:32 AM

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Is it possible Reid is going to figure this out? Realistically, he hasn't yet in his career as a coach, but this is the first time he's had the NFL's best offensive weapon(s) at his disposal while having an atrocious defense. Is it possible the game against the Chargers finally convinces him to be more aggressive? It seems so blatantly obvious that you "roll" (to use a Reid-ism) with what got you there.

I think, like Eagles fans, that we hope the last colossal collapse will be the one that's the cold water in his face that has him realize that he has to resist this formula that only he thinks will win. So far he hasn't, he's well insulated. And if there's a reason he CAN'T, he's not bothered to explain it to the fans through the press. As long as Hunt let's him keep collapsing without consequences, what incentive is there for him to think he needs to change?

Like an alcoholic that swears off alcohol for the 100th time (after a bender), with Andy it appears to only last until he walks to the next bar. Andy needs an intervention, but Hunt thinks he's fine.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-22-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz

This is exactly what's meant by a local media that's soft.

I hate the entire, defeatist premise.

Reerun_KC · 12-22-2018, 10:34 AM

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I hate the entire, defeatist premise.

It started in 1987.... Been going strong since.

12-20-2018, 09:49 AM
pugsnotdrugs19 SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $6629447	MELLINGER: Dear Chiefs fans: C'mon, it's not that bad ... LINK: https://www.kansascity.com/sports/sp...223324950.html ARTICLE: Spoiler! BY SAM MELLINGER December 19th, 2018 This will be hard for some of you to understand. That’s not said negatively. Just factually. Because some of you came to follow the Chiefs because of Patrick Mahomes. Which is fine. Kansas City is not accustomed to rooting for trendy teams. These are strange times we live in. But here’s a quick primer for those who started rooting for the Chiefs once they began playing a wizard at quarterback: Your new team is a habitual heartbreaker. The darkness in the stories you hear from your new brothers and sisters is real. They are not whining. They are speaking their truth. And, you know, while we’re on the topic, here’s something for those of you who fell in love with this team long ago — you’ve never cheered for a team like this. More specifically, you’ve never cheered for a quarterback like this. You know that, of course. That’s been obvious since Week 17 of last year, if not earlier. But if last week’s loss shook your confidence, it’s worth pointing something out. If this same Chiefs team — flaws and strengths, studs and duds — wore different uniforms and played in a different city, you would be jealous. If this Chiefs team wore Colts uniforms, for instance, you would be terrified with all the scenarios of Mahomes driving a figurative knife through your metaphorical heart with a game-winning drive capped by a Tarkenton scramble with a sack-avoiding cartwheel and left-handed no-look pass threading four defenders. This is, basically, what Kansas City has waited decades to see. The Chiefs have the best quarterback in a league that’s never been more dominated by quarterbacks. They have the best offense in a league teaching fans who can’t remember the 2000 Baltimore Ravens that, actually, Offense Wins Championships. These Chiefs have lost three games, by a total of seven points, each literally or essentially coming down to the final play. They are 3-2 against teams currently holding an AFC playoff spot, with two of those wins on the road. The losses came against the New England Patriots, who have lost three of five, and the Los Angeles Chargers, who lost to the Chiefs at home and have led the Chiefs for just 4 of 7,200 seconds this season. The Chiefs have flaws. Oh brother, they’ve got flaws. They have a defense fronted by Chris Jones and Dee Ford and Justin Houston with a solid group of cornerbacks and they’re still somehow terrible. They have averaged 39.7 points in their losses. The defense scored or set up three touchdowns and the offense gave up two touchdowns in those losses, but still. If you can’t relax with 40 points, you can’t ever relax. This team has problems keeping its quarterback clean, and has consistently amplified its problems tackling (worst among projected AFC playoff teams, according to Pro Football Focus) by being the NFL’s most penalized team. So even without a playoff collapse presented in regular season form last week, you wouldn’t have to think too hard to come up with ugly scenarios. But the AFC lacks a singularly dominant team. Usually, when that happens, the fallback logic is that the hottest team wins. Well, the Chiefs are well-positioned to be that team with a win this weekend in Seattle. The Seahawks are a terrible matchup for the Chiefs, the league’s best rushing team against the worst rush defense. But they are also beatable, and a home underdog against the team so many here in Kansas City are freaking out about. Win this weekend and no matter what the Chargers do the Chiefs can clinch another AFC West title and first-round bye with a win over the Raiders in week 17 (the NFL’s version of a layup). Do all of that and they will be going into the playoffs with the league’s best quarterback and offense, and a defense that is at least getting healthier and presumably a little better with the return of safety Eric Berry. That’s enough to fight with. Look, the Chiefs might ruin your January. That is in play. Berry could be injured at any moment, a two-score lead disintegrated in 5 minutes, and a badly timed penalty or missed kick will stir up a lot of ghosts. The new fans will be quick learners on that. Welcome to the heartbreak, suckers. But the longtime fans can learn something here. Meet in the middle. Open your eyes, and see a quarterback and team capable of scoring an average of 37.7 points against six projected playoff teams. Unless you are old enough to remember 1969, this is the closest the team you root for has ever resembled the team you’ve wanted it to be. If you’re giving up hope because of one loss in a year without a dominant team, well, nobody can fault you for protecting your heart. But they might also ask a simple question. What are you waiting for?
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Chiefs Moon Guest Casino cash: $	When the game is close at the end, I want Andy Reid to go full Andy Reid. Play calling must have misdirection. If he wants to run, fine. But don't just line up and run between the tackles. Line up empty. Use motion and keep the defense off balance. If it's a pass, keep one or two backs in the backfield and play fake. Don't go vanilla. That's not Andy Reid at his best.
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