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Old 10-01-2019, 08:00 PM  
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Vegas odds: AFC now a 2-team race

Not much of a surprise here but current odds:


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New England Patsies +350
Kansas City Chiefs +525


Los Angeles Rams +1000
Dallas Cowboys +1025
Green Bay Packers +1500
Philadelphia Eagles +1600
Minnesota Vikings +1700
Baltimore Ravens +1800
New Orleans Saints +2000
San Francisco 49ers +2300
Chicago Bears +2500
Seattle Seahawks +3300

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Old 10-01-2019, 08:38 PM   #16
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Just noticed this was as of 9/25

With the Rams loss they had to have dropped. Same with Cowgirls. 49ers look juicy to me.
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Old 10-01-2019, 08:38 PM   #17
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The NFC is so wide open. It could just as easily be Seattle VS Green Bay. Dallas is not guaranteed that division at all if Wentz can get his shit together.
It could very well be....I never said anything about any guarantee. Just said I "felt" going into the season it would be between Dallas & New Orleans in the NFC. I picked New Orleans going in, so Im sticking with them.

FWIW I had the SB as KC vs NO. If I had to pick now, Id pick NE vs NO because I feel the KC defense is still terrible and will doom them again in the playoffs.
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Old 10-01-2019, 08:55 PM   #18
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Just noticed this was as of 9/25

With the Rams loss they had to have dropped. Same with Cowgirls. 49ers look juicy to me.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:01 PM   #19
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It’s still an arms race even after the AB debacle.

Just wait until the trade deadline... both teams will be looking to make a substantial move and likely will.
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Old 10-01-2019, 09:34 PM   #20
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It could very well be....I never said anything about any guarantee. Just said I "felt" going into the season it would be between Dallas & New Orleans in the NFC. I picked New Orleans going in, so Im sticking with them.

FWIW I had the SB as KC vs NO. If I had to pick now, Id pick NE vs NO because I feel the KC defense is still terrible and will doom them again in the playoffs.
New Orleans will be fine especially if they keep racking up wins with Bridgewater.

For the AFC everyone knows its Chiefs Pats. Theres a large gap between them and the 3rd best team. Barring an injury to Mahomes or Brady its almost guaranteed thats who it its going to be in the AFC. They both played not so great games yet still win. Even supposedly good team like the Rams cant do that.

I wouldnt worry about KCs D not being as good as New Englands, it isnt, and it wont be when they meet int he playoffs. New Englands O isnt near as efficient as KCs and while NE D can smother inferior Os its still not an elite D. KC will have no trouble with them and to be fair they will have no trouble with our D, but I feel KCs A game will beat out NEs A game this year.

The Pats are always hard to dismiss because they are good at changing their identity when they need to. All the sudden they become a running team that can rush for 200 yds game controlling the clock. etc. Im still picking Chiefs though.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:18 AM   #21
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The Eagles at 16:1 is juicy.

My gut tells me Dallas is the team, though.
Dallas has imploded these last few years when it's crunch time. If Bridgewater can keep New Orleans afloat until Brews returns, I think it's them or the Rams. I don't trust Dak Prescott.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:59 AM   #22
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I dunno man, I think they're pretty good.

They've got a legit DL and front 7 on D, the offense with Shannahan is pretty nice too.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:26 AM   #23
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New Orleans will be fine especially if they keep racking up wins with Bridgewater.

For the AFC everyone knows its Chiefs Pats. Theres a large gap between them and the 3rd best team. Barring an injury to Mahomes or Brady its almost guaranteed thats who it its going to be in the AFC. They both played not so great games yet still win. Even supposedly good team like the Rams cant do that.

I wouldnt worry about KCs D not being as good as New Englands, it isnt, and it wont be when they meet int he playoffs. New Englands O isnt near as efficient as KCs and while NE D can smother inferior Os its still not an elite D. KC will have no trouble with them and to be fair they will have no trouble with our D, but I feel KCs A game will beat out NEs A game this year.

The Pats are always hard to dismiss because they are good at changing their identity when they need to. All the sudden they become a running team that can rush for 200 yds game controlling the clock. etc. Im still picking Chiefs though.
I hear ya but Im not worried that KC's D wont be as good as NE. I know it wont be. What I am concerned about is this year's KC D may be just as bad as last year's. If so, we know how it will end.

Fix the D a bit and I go with KC.
If its still bad come playoff time, NE will take the AFC again.
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Old 10-02-2019, 08:30 AM   #24
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Pats have the easiest schedule in the NFl- while the Chiefs will be battle-tested against tough teams playing their SuperBowls against us every Sunday.

Chief's D. would be looking great against the teams the Pats get to play.
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Wow there is a big jump from #2 to #3 in the odds.

At the moment looks like a two team race, hope both teams will be healthy throughout the season and into the playoffs.

Dec.'s game between KC/Pats should be great.

KC offense is still steaming along, Pats D has been solid since about the Minn game last season, but did yield 31 points to KC in the 2nd half of the AFCCG.

Pats have lost a few guys on offense so that will hurt. I like the Pats chances as home in Dec., but KC tied the game late last year.

We should get a better idea as the two teams play more games to see what teams the two have in Dec.
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Old 10-24-2019, 11:03 AM   #26
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Old 10-24-2019, 11:15 AM   #27
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Las Vegas is preying upon "patriots fans" who don't watch football.

If so, then it's to recover losses. I saw a stat a couple years ago about how much a person who did nothing but mindlessly bet the same amount on the Pats over the last 18 or whatever years would've won. It was a healthy amount of cash.
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I truly wonder how good some of the NFC teams are in comparison to the AFC:

Dallas Cowboys have lost to the Jets and beaten up on the Dolphins.

New Orleans Saints narrowly beat the Texans, and only beat the Jaguars by a score of 13-6.

Green Bay beat the Broncos and Raiders handily and if they win on Sunday then it's not against Mahomes so it's a muted win.

Rams beat the Browns by 7 and only face one good AFC team in the Ravens on 11/25.

49ers have whooped the Bengals and Browns but only beat the Steelers by 4. Which is weird to give them three AFC North opponents in a row but anyways.

Vikings whooped Oakland and same goes with KC if they face a team without Mahomes then that's easier for them and a muted win if they do win.

I think that the NFC is a bunch of good teams, but not any great teams. The Saints will be a great team when Brees gets back, assuming he doesn't falter this year like Brady has, and in that case I'm not scared of them. I think it's the AFC's Super Bowl to lose. JMO.
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LOL. Miguel (@patscap) who is the foremost cap guru on the Patriots (and one of the best on the Internet) has the Patriots with -- get this -- $10,268 in cap space.

Yikes. Like enough for a team dinner Olive Garden...with no wine...maybe.
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