Chiefs Offensive struggles the last 2 years are personnel driven, not coaching - Page 5

RunKC · 02-09-2025, 11:12 PM

Idk how anyone cannot see this.

Andy Reid stood at the combine in 2023 and said Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney were their top WR’s. We saw how that went.

In fact, can anyone tell me without looking what WR has had the most snaps of any Chiefs WR the last 2 seasons? Anyone? Ready for it? It’s Justin Watson. Nobody has played more snaps at that position than him the last 2 years.

Don’t even get me started on the OL. A late 3rd and late 2nd on tackles are considered projects. They are not real shots at a LT historically speaking. Shocking that they turned out to look like projects.
We have had 5 starting LT’s the last 2 years. FIVE.

The RB room had the least explosive plays of any RB room in the entire league. Only 17 10+ explosive plays all year. We even had some loser with an Alligator that plays FB take starting snaps

I get that it sucked losing Pacheco, Hollywood and Rashee. I understand and am not faulting Veach. The fact is that Kareem Hunt, Juju, DeAndre Hopkins and Travis Kelce are old. They aren’t explosive anymore. That was painfully clear tonight. It’s why Veach doesn’t like signing 30+ year old players unless he absolutely has to.

Again this isn’t a Veach bitch fest it’s just the facts. I think Veach is gonna take a hammer to this offense and hard after OL and explosive playmakers.

Thankfully he’s got an extra pick early thanks to Sneed

TEX · 02-10-2025, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

It’s shocking that this team won 15 games in hindsight.

Yeah but, when you look at it closely you could see this coming. It's why shit teams like Denver, Vegas, Carolina gave them problems.

LongSufferingToady · 02-10-2025, 03:40 PM

Reed has a habit of wanting small, versatile "spark plug" running backs. They are handy for his trick plays but lousy when facing a full frontal assault of massive force.
Andy's teams have never historically done well against old fashioned smash mouth football.
His tricks don't work in the face of overwhelming force.

**Easy 6** · 02-10-2025, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

I predicted 42-10 Eagles, no way am I a Philly anything I just saw it clear as day. When the Ravens went on a SB march they did it convincingly and manhandled their opponents. Momentum was like standing in front of loose logging truck coming down a grade, no matter who you think you are ...you're going to get blasted because nothing can stop this runaway Eagles team. I hoped it wouldn't be as embarrassing as I predicted is all. A complete team against an incomplete team, a swiss cheesed team with duct tape against finely tuned race team ...they play too many games to hold up, it's an attrition league now and unfortunately what I see now is the finality of this hyped stigma surrounding a QB who has contracted Warner Syndrome. The Raiders will be taking over now, Denver and LA 3rd now that he's weekended by second guessing his existence ...he'll never be the same unless he's traded to a favorable QB team like the Raiders with Chip Kelly, mark my words because he'll be mediocre at very best from now on. aka not elite because he's already been surpassed this last season QB wise, clearly ranking behind the pack stat wise. Reid and Kelce will retire. Spags and Nagy aren't HC material. Salary cap issues...end of this dynasty ...I wouldn't want to be the

front office this off season. From now on consider this the twilight of Patrick's career like Lebron at the Lakers ...a lot of nothing to show

Blow it out of your ass, thimble dick

**PHOG** · 02-10-2025, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Red

I predicted 42-10 Eagles, no way am I a Philly anything I just saw it clear as day. When the Ravens went on a SB march they did it convincingly and manhandled their opponents. Momentum was like standing in front of loose logging truck coming down a grade, no matter who you think you are ...you're going to get blasted because nothing can stop this runaway Eagles team. I hoped it wouldn't be as embarrassing as I predicted is all. A complete team against an incomplete team, a swiss cheesed team with duct tape against finely tuned race team ...they play too many games to hold up, it's an attrition league now and unfortunately what I see now is the finality of this hyped stigma surrounding a QB who has contracted Warner Syndrome. The Raiders will be taking over now, Denver and LA 3rd now that he's weekended by second guessing his existence ...he'll never be the same unless he's traded to a favorable QB team like the Raiders with Chip Kelly, mark my words because he'll be mediocre at very best from now on. aka not elite because he's already been surpassed this last season QB wise, clearly ranking behind the pack stat wise. Reid and Kelce will retire. Spags and Nagy aren't HC material. Salary cap issues...end of this dynasty ...I wouldn't want to be the

front office this off season. From now on consider this the twilight of Patrick's career like Lebron at the Lakers ...a lot of nothing to show

Of course you did you stupid ****. Like has already been said, blow it out your ass.

DrunkBassGuitar · 02-10-2025, 04:54 PM

"the raiders will be taking over"

lmao

MahomesMagic · 02-10-2025, 04:59 PM

.I wouldn't want to be the front office this off season. From now on consider this the twilight of Patrick's career like Lebron at the Lakers ...a lot of nothing to show

DickLix?

You back after losing to KC again?!

kcpasco · 02-10-2025, 05:02 PM

Raiders are a poverty franchise. The Jets might be the only worse ran organization. Maybe

Boise_Chief · 02-10-2025, 05:27 PM

As far as yesterday I couldn't disagree more. Play calling was a real problem. If you are facing continuous pressure from the dl rushing 4 there are options you can do to help your qb and line. We did nothing.

Quick slants worked, draws, screens, outside tosses there are ways we could have moved the ball. Instead we had pat holding on to the ball 3 4 5 6 seconds.

Chief Roundup · 02-10-2025, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Talent has tied his hands so badly man. We need to fix this this offseason

How do you plan to do that? It is so damn easy to spew this kind shit without any real way of accomplishing the task, especially if it is going to be easy. We currently have $11M in cap space according to OTC while having a slew of UFAs that are important.

Trey Smith
DeAndre Hopkins
Justin Reid
Charles Omenihu
Marquise Brown
D.J. Humphries
Joshua Uche
Tershawn Wharton
Carson Wentz
Derrick Nnadi
Justin Watson
Samaje Perine
Nick Bolton
James Winchester
Mike Pennel
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Kareem Hunt
Mecole Hardman
Marlon Tuipulotu

Chief Roundup · 02-10-2025, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Boise_Chief

As far as yesterday I couldn't disagree more. Play calling was a real problem. If you are facing continuous pressure from the dl rushing 4 there are options you can do to help your qb and line. We did nothing.

Quick slants worked, draws, screens, outside tosses there are ways we could have moved the ball. Instead we had pat holding on to the ball 3 4 5 6 seconds.

It is not just one thing. It is a combination. Talent is not where it needs to be on the OL. Yet there are plays that can be called to help with this talent shortage. Andy did not take care of this issue as much as he could have with plays and packages.

Boise_Chief · 02-10-2025, 05:43 PM

Exactly. I know a guard playing LT is a liability and general line talent is less than we need.

Sassy Squatch · 02-10-2025, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

How do you plan to do that? It is so damn easy to spew this kind shit without any real way of accomplishing the task, especially if it is going to be easy. We currently have $11M in cap space according to OTC while having a slew of UFAs that are important.

Trey Smith
DeAndre Hopkins
Justin Reid
Charles Omenihu
Marquise Brown
D.J. Humphries
Joshua Uche
Tershawn Wharton
Carson Wentz
Derrick Nnadi
Justin Watson
Samaje Perine
Nick Bolton
James Winchester
Mike Pennel
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Kareem Hunt
Mecole Hardman
Marlon Tuipulotu

Your definition of important and mine are not the same.

RunKC · 02-10-2025, 06:26 PM

Veach did put the full court press on for Josh Jacobs last Spring. Not for a lack of trying.

We are getting a new RB this Spring that’s for sure

RunKC · 02-10-2025, 06:51 PM

Lack of separation outside of Worthy and sometimes Hollywood outside of schemed passes was quietly one of the biggest reasons we lost.

This is really really bad

For those #Chiefs fans that want to see it here is the high 50 view of all the passing plays from the game yesterday. For those that don't want to view, I get it but I made it one clip so it isn't a ton of breakdowns all over your timeline. #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/0o9ZNVWwea
— Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) February 10, 2025

Sassy Squatch · 02-10-2025, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Veach did put the full court press on for Josh Jacobs last Spring. Not for a lack of trying.

We are getting a new RB this Spring that’s for sure

Boo boo down vote. Also gives me a bit of hope they may finally be ditching their preferred archetype of RB.

02-09-2025, 11:12 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1420389	Offensive struggles the last 2 years are personnel driven, not coaching Idk how anyone cannot see this. Andy Reid stood at the combine in 2023 and said Skyy Moore and Kadarius Toney were their top WR’s. We saw how that went. In fact, can anyone tell me without looking what WR has had the most snaps of any Chiefs WR the last 2 seasons? Anyone? Ready for it? It’s Justin Watson. Nobody has played more snaps at that position than him the last 2 years. Don’t even get me started on the OL. A late 3rd and late 2nd on tackles are considered projects. They are not real shots at a LT historically speaking. Shocking that they turned out to look like projects. We have had 5 starting LT’s the last 2 years. FIVE. The RB room had the least explosive plays of any RB room in the entire league. Only 17 10+ explosive plays all year. We even had some loser with an Alligator that plays FB take starting snaps I get that it sucked losing Pacheco, Hollywood and Rashee. I understand and am not faulting Veach. The fact is that Kareem Hunt, Juju, DeAndre Hopkins and Travis Kelce are old. They aren’t explosive anymore. That was painfully clear tonight. It’s why Veach doesn’t like signing 30+ year old players unless he absolutely has to. Again this isn’t a Veach bitch fest it’s just the facts. I think Veach is gonna take a hammer to this offense and hard after OL and explosive playmakers. Thankfully he’s got an extra pick early thanks to Sneed
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02-10-2025, 03:40 PM	#62
LongSufferingToady Old, not Dead Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Where the Buffalo Roam... Casino cash: $9160400	Reed has a habit of wanting small, versatile "spark plug" running backs. They are handy for his trick plays but lousy when facing a full frontal assault of massive force. Andy's teams have never historically done well against old fashioned smash mouth football. His tricks don't work in the face of overwhelming force. __________________ A nip here. A tuck there. Pretty soon you're talking about real money.
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MahomesMagic Generational Player Join Date: May 2017 Location: Honolulu Casino cash: $550400	.I wouldn't want to be the front office this off season. From now on consider this the twilight of Patrick's career like Lebron at the Lakers ...a lot of nothing to show DickLix? You back after losing to KC again?!
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Boise_Chief The Lurkiest Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Boise,ID Casino cash: $-685812	As far as yesterday I couldn't disagree more. Play calling was a real problem. If you are facing continuous pressure from the dl rushing 4 there are options you can do to help your qb and line. We did nothing. Quick slants worked, draws, screens, outside tosses there are ways we could have moved the ball. Instead we had pat holding on to the ball 3 4 5 6 seconds.
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02-10-2025, 05:43 PM	#71
Boise_Chief The Lurkiest Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Boise,ID Casino cash: $-685812	Exactly. I know a guard playing LT is a liability and general line talent is less than we need.
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02-10-2025, 06:26 PM	#73
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1420389	Veach did put the full court press on for Josh Jacobs last Spring. Not for a lack of trying. We are getting a new RB this Spring that’s for sure __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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02-10-2025, 06:51 PM	#74
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1420389	Lack of separation outside of Worthy and sometimes Hollywood outside of schemed passes was quietly one of the biggest reasons we lost. This is really really bad For those #Chiefs fans that want to see it here is the high 50 view of all the passing plays from the game yesterday. For those that don't want to view, I get it but I made it one clip so it isn't a ton of breakdowns all over your timeline. #ChiefsKingdom pic.twitter.com/0o9ZNVWwea — Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) February 10, 2025 __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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