which team got the better draftpick? the cat or Shawn alexander

chief mohawk · 09-29-2000, 01:12 PM

I admit that when seattle selected alexander ahead of us, i thought we missed out on all the money players after alexander was gone. I'm glad that we got the cat and that the chiefs finally got a first round draft pick right! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

09-29-2000, 01:21 PM

I think the Chiefs did fine with Morris, but I'm not making judgement on who got the better deal yet... Alexander looks like he will be a very fine back.

Gaz · 09-29-2000, 01:22 PM

Alexander would have been just another non-voting member of the Committee. Morris cracked the starting lineup and is contributing. That’s not to say that Morris is a better athlete than Alexander, but in the Chiefs system, even a veteran HB is not going to play every down, much less a rookie. But a rookie can start as a WR.

I don’t see the logic, but it is clear that this is the Chiefs staff’s view.

xoxo~
gaz
shaking his head in wonder.<BR>

chief mohawk · 09-29-2000, 01:23 PM

I have not seen seattle play this year, does alexander look any good and how many touch downs?

chief mohawk · 09-29-2000, 01:24 PM

good point gaz!

Gaz · 09-29-2000, 01:25 PM

I remember that there was considerable speculation that we would draft Alexander and trade him for Dillon. Based on his performance on and off the field this season, I’m very pleased at the way it turned out, but it does raise an interesting What If.

Would the same Committee mentality have applied had we traded for Dillon?

xoxo~
gaz
happy with the Cat.<BR>

chief mohawk · 09-29-2000, 01:30 PM

Gaz, i dont think so , it seems that the chiefs tend to give free agents the ball with no questions asked and makes their own draft picks work their way into the starting line up. That does not say much for their draft day decesions (example mike cloud)

hawaiianboy · 09-29-2000, 01:30 PM

I think they are both going to be fine players... but I am of the opinion it's easier to fid a franchise WR than to find a franchise back.

I had Alexander rated as the best back in the draft... IMO he's going to be a very special player. I wish he wasn't in our division.<BR>

**ChiTown** · 09-29-2000, 01:38 PM

JQ

Great point on the franchise WR vs. RB

Chiefs have been in search of a franchise RB since Okoye left, and conceivably, it could be said that there have been few, if any, true franchise RB's in our system (Abner Haynes, Mike Garrett, Joe D., Christian Okoye were not HOF types, IMO). In addition, sadly, the Chiefs only true franchise WR since Otis Taylor has been Carlos Carson, unless you can count Gonzo in that group and certainly he is our best weapon.

Point is, we've lacked both for a long time.

HC_Chief · 09-29-2000, 02:20 PM

Alexander would [i]not[/i] have been another cog in the committee - that guy is a player! Sucks that he went to a division rival.

Morris was a good pick. As I stated before the draft, if we don't draft Shawn Alexander, we should draft Dez White or Sylvester Morris - we were forced to take the latter. (I'm glad now - don't think Dez White is exactly tearing it up...)

Pitt Gorilla · 09-29-2000, 02:23 PM

Earlier this season, quite a few people wrote that maybe we should tank and get one of the top picks in the draft. I know this isn't exactly on topic, but hear me out. If we were to get one of the top ten draft choices, we would have to shell out significant dough for a DRAFT PICK, ie Courtney Brown, Arrington, etc. That could be as much as 10 million per year. So, basically, it's a VERY expensive, young restricted free agent. However, if you draft near the middle to the end of the first round, you can still get GREAT talent at a much cheaper price tag, ie Gonzalez, Tait, Riley, SlyMO, Woods, etc. I mean, look at SlyMo's contract compared to Browns!!! So, in today's salary cap world, teams that are moderately successful on the field and good evalutators of talent can reap the benefits of both worlds, without missing out on exceedingly superior prospects. Just a thought!

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chief mohawk · 09-29-2000, 02:31 PM

The teams that have consistantly picked in the top ten really dont have an all around team, so the money is spent on the high draft pick and watered down talent around these players until they build a nucleus oftalent in the draft like the colts or the rams.

ct · 09-29-2000, 02:41 PM

The problem is CP has shown marginal ability to find the skill position players at the mid to low end of the 1st round. So in effect, we get exactly what we pay for!

I'd still prefer this to crappy seasons to net a top ten pick. Tait @12 even lower than I thought I could take once the winning tradition is built.

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09-29-2000, 01:21 PM	#2
Iowanian Guest Casino cash: $	I think the Chiefs did fine with Morris, but I'm not making judgement on who got the better deal yet... Alexander looks like he will be a very fine back.
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09-29-2000, 01:22 PM	#3
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Alexander would have been just another non-voting member of the Committee. Morris cracked the starting lineup and is contributing. That’s not to say that Morris is a better athlete than Alexander, but in the Chiefs system, even a veteran HB is not going to play every down, much less a rookie. But a rookie can start as a WR. I don’t see the logic, but it is clear that this is the Chiefs staff’s view. xoxo~ gaz shaking his head in wonder.<BR>
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09-29-2000, 01:23 PM	#4
chief mohawk Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $7014950	I have not seen seattle play this year, does alexander look any good and how many touch downs?
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09-29-2000, 01:24 PM	#5
chief mohawk Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $7014950	good point gaz!
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09-29-2000, 01:25 PM	#6
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	I remember that there was considerable speculation that we would draft Alexander and trade him for Dillon. Based on his performance on and off the field this season, I’m very pleased at the way it turned out, but it does raise an interesting What If. Would the same Committee mentality have applied had we traded for Dillon? xoxo~ gaz happy with the Cat.<BR>
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09-29-2000, 01:12 PM
chief mohawk Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $7014950	I admit that when seattle selected alexander ahead of us, i thought we missed out on all the money players after alexander was gone. I'm glad that we got the cat and that the chiefs finally got a first round draft pick right! [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]
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09-29-2000, 01:30 PM	#7
chief mohawk Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $7014950	Gaz, i dont think so , it seems that the chiefs tend to give free agents the ball with no questions asked and makes their own draft picks work their way into the starting line up. That does not say much for their draft day decesions (example mike cloud)
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09-29-2000, 01:30 PM	#8
hawaiianboy *************** Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I think they are both going to be fine players... but I am of the opinion it's easier to fid a franchise WR than to find a franchise back. I had Alexander rated as the best back in the draft... IMO he's going to be a very special player. I wish he wasn't in our division.<BR>
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09-29-2000, 01:38 PM	#9
ChiTown Stroking to the SB Champs! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Flatlands of Kansas Casino cash: $-341038	JQ Great point on the franchise WR vs. RB Chiefs have been in search of a franchise RB since Okoye left, and conceivably, it could be said that there have been few, if any, true franchise RB's in our system (Abner Haynes, Mike Garrett, Joe D., Christian Okoye were not HOF types, IMO). In addition, sadly, the Chiefs only true franchise WR since Otis Taylor has been Carlos Carson, unless you can count Gonzo in that group and certainly he is our best weapon. Point is, we've lacked both for a long time.
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09-29-2000, 02:20 PM	#10
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Alexander would [i]not[/i] have been another cog in the committee - that guy is a player! Sucks that he went to a division rival. Morris was a good pick. As I stated before the draft, if we don't draft Shawn Alexander, we should draft Dez White or Sylvester Morris - we were forced to take the latter. (I'm glad now - don't think Dez White is exactly tearing it up...)
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09-29-2000, 02:23 PM	#11
Pitt Gorilla Banned! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201 Casino cash: $50194	Earlier this season, quite a few people wrote that maybe we should tank and get one of the top picks in the draft. I know this isn't exactly on topic, but hear me out. If we were to get one of the top ten draft choices, we would have to shell out significant dough for a DRAFT PICK, ie Courtney Brown, Arrington, etc. That could be as much as 10 million per year. So, basically, it's a VERY expensive, young restricted free agent. However, if you draft near the middle to the end of the first round, you can still get GREAT talent at a much cheaper price tag, ie Gonzalez, Tait, Riley, SlyMO, Woods, etc. I mean, look at SlyMo's contract compared to Browns!!! So, in today's salary cap world, teams that are moderately successful on the field and good evalutators of talent can reap the benefits of both worlds, without missing out on exceedingly superior prospects. Just a thought! ------------------ GO PITT!
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09-29-2000, 02:31 PM	#12
chief mohawk Starter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $7014950	The teams that have consistantly picked in the top ten really dont have an all around team, so the money is spent on the high draft pick and watered down talent around these players until they build a nucleus oftalent in the draft like the colts or the rams.
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09-29-2000, 02:41 PM	#13
ct u b illian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: DooDah Casino cash: $10009436	The problem is CP has shown marginal ability to find the skill position players at the mid to low end of the 1st round. So in effect, we get exactly what we pay for! I'd still prefer this to crappy seasons to net a top ten pick. Tait @12 even lower than I thought I could take once the winning tradition is built. ------------------ [b]ct Give TRich the Ball!!!</B>
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