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tk13 · 01-18-2005, 02:28 AM

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Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star

Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff.

Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team.

Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season.

“The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.”

Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago.

The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams.

Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players.

Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame.

“Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No.

“If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.”

Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers.

The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach.

Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.

Hammock Parties · 01-18-2005, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

I swear to God the next time I see Dick Vermeil in public, rather than shaking his hand, I will kick him in the shins. Mark my words. I may chicken out at the last moment and make it appear as though it were an accident, but either way DICK VERMEIL WILL BE RUBBING HIS SHINS AND CRYING.

He'll sue your ass.

Have you even shaken his hand, anyway?

Just flip him off.

Hammock Parties · 01-18-2005, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Man, I hope so. I can handle feeling like a dipshit.

So if we win the Super Bowl I won't feel any different?

**KcMizzou** · 01-18-2005, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GoatCheese

So if we win the Super Bowl I won't feel any different?

You'll feel like an insanely happy dipshit.

Just like me.

01-18-2005, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GoatCheese

He'll sue your ass.

Have you even shaken his hand, anyway?

Just flip him off.

Yeah. Stevieray and I had our picture taken with him. He left the impression that he couldn't get away fast enough. I'm sure it was me, but maybe he's not quite the people person everybody thinks he is....

**KcMizzou** · 01-18-2005, 02:54 AM

Hey Phob.. if you could pick our next coach, who would it be?

I don't have any point to this... I'm just curious.

teedubya · 01-18-2005, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Does the ring go by the year of the season or the SB? This Superbowl is the one in '05.

its based on teh season, as the real ring was 1969... Im thinking of making one that is 2028, cuz i think that is prolly more accurate.

Good thing we are Jayhawk fans, eh? I feel like a Patriots fan... cuz Bill Self is so young. We are gonna be awesome for years!!! woo hoo.

01-18-2005, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Hey Phob.. if you could pick our next coach, who would it be?

I don't have any point to this... I'm just curious.

Anybody who isn't a Marty disciple. Really. I don't follow the entire league as closely as I used to, but I do know that Marty disciples don't win superbowls. I'd like somebody who doesn't hug players who fumble and draw flags. It think that's kinda important to instilling discipline despite what Dick Vermeil would lead us to believe in his bullshit, joke press conferences.

I'd rather watch Dr. Phil 10x a day than one Dick Vermeil press conference. Hold me to that, it's no bullshit.

teedubya · 01-18-2005, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

Yeah. Stevieray and I had our picture taken with him. He left the impression that he couldn't get away fast enough. I'm sure it was me, but maybe he's not quite the people person everybody thinks he is....

yeah, you were kinda rank both times that I have hung out with you. Its called deoderant dude....

just saying.

01-18-2005, 03:01 AM

The handle is "Phobia", not Donger, dude. I have no hygiene issues.

teedubya · 01-18-2005, 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

The handle is "Phobia", not Donger, dude. I have no hygiene issues.

Pants · 01-18-2005, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ali Chi3fs

its based on teh season, as the real ring was 1969... Im thinking of making one that is 2028, cuz i think that is prolly more accurate.

Good thing we are Jayhawk fans, eh? I feel like a Patriots fan... cuz Bill Self is so young. We are gonna be awesome for years!!! woo hoo.

Yeah man I know. Bill is the shit, and (according to Phobia) unlike DV he is genuinely nice.

Hammock Parties · 01-18-2005, 03:03 AM

I'd like the Chiefs to find a guy like Jack Del Rio.

I watched that preseason show about the Jaguars training camp on HBO and I think he's exactly what the Chiefs need. Smart off the field, tough on the field.

teedubya · 01-18-2005, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

Yeah man I know. Bill is the shit, and (according to Phobia) unlike DV he is genuinely nice.

maybe the Chiefs need a head coach whose name starts with Bill?

teedubya · 01-18-2005, 03:04 AM

Parcells, Walsh, Belichek...

01-18-2005, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoatCheese

I'd like the Chiefs to find a guy like Jack Del Rio.

I watched that preseason show about the Jaguars training camp on HBO and I think he's exactly what the Chiefs need. Smart off the field, tough on the field.

Oh CHRIST.

You though Skip Towne hated you before?

Wait until he sees this one. Holy shit. I think I'm gonna have to email him.

Jack Del Rio

You do know that Jack was a Scab who assaulted the Chiefs most beloved WR in '82, don't you?

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1667500	Teicher: No changes in defensive coaching staff http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10668159.htm Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff. Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team. Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season. “The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.” Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago. The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams. Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players. Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame. “Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No. “If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.” Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers. The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach. Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.
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