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tk13 · 01-18-2005, 02:28 AM

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Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying

By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star

Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff.

Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team.

Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season.

“The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.”

Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago.

The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams.

Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players.

Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame.

“Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No.

“If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.”

Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers.

The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach.

Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.

htismaqe · 01-19-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

We should simply fire Vermeil.

Experiment ended... Dick = failure who refuses to make the moves necessary to improve.

Yep.

HC_Chief · 01-19-2005, 03:40 PM

If it were to happen (not outside the realm of possibility), do we give Saunders a one-year shot at it, or scrap and bring in a whole new staff?

go bo · 01-19-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

If it were to happen (not outside the realm of possibility), do we give Saunders a one-year shot at it, or scrap and bring in a whole new staff?

i'd like to see al have a shot at it at least once, while the o is still intact (or nearly so)...

he should keep gun, thought and let him bring in his own defensive coaches and have control over fa acquistions and drafting defensive players...

other teams have turned around their defense in one season, maybe we can do it too...

but i doubt it will happen while carl is still here...

htismaqe · 01-19-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

If it were to happen (not outside the realm of possibility), do we give Saunders a one-year shot at it, or scrap and bring in a whole new staff?

Holthus said two weeks ago that he wouldn't be at all surprised if this deal with the coaching changes comes down to Carl saying "we will" and DV retires.

Given that all these guys are under contract, I'd say it's a 100% guarantee that Saunders becomes HC.

In fact, given our luck as fans, I'm sure Saunders would be promoted to interim HC and given a 3-year extension to line his contract up with Carl Peterson's new 3-year extension.

Frankie · 01-19-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Holthus said two weeks ago that he wouldn't be at all surprised if this deal with the coaching changes comes down to Carl saying "we will" and DV retires.

Given that all these guys are under contract, I'd say it's a 100% guarantee that Saunders becomes HC.

In fact, given our luck as fans, I'm sure Saunders would be promoted to interim HC and given a 3-year extension to line his contract up with Carl Peterson's new 3-year extension.

I'm one who is actually comfortable with that. Provided Gunther is not dissed. I love to keep our 'O' staff intact. ESPECIALLY SOLARI.

BigChiefFan · 01-19-2005, 05:00 PM

If Jason V leaves, I would ask Shea to take over the QB coaching instead of the TEs coach.

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1667500	Teicher: No changes in defensive coaching staff http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/10668159.htm Vermeil: Defensive coaches staying By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Despite pressure to improve a defense that finished next to last in yards allowed, Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil said Monday that he will make no changes to his defensive staff. Vermeil was encouraged by president/general manager Carl Peterson to make some moves, particularly at defensive back. Peter Giunta and Vernon Dean coached a secondary that allowed more passing yards than any other NFL team. Vermeil took the two weeks since the Chiefs' season-ending loss in San Diego to ponder changes. He returned to his Arrowhead Stadium office Monday, saying that while all of his assistants would be welcome to return, he also expected better results next season. “The only way any football coach is evaluated is on how many games they won,” Vermeil said. “Since we won only seven games, everybody on this staff, including me, is evaluated as below average. An 8-8 record would have meant we were average.” Although the Chiefs played poorly on defense since he joined the Chiefs in 2001, Vermeil has remained steadfastly loyal to his assistants. He resisted pressure from Peterson to replace coordinator Greg Robinson two years ago. The only defensive staff changes were made last year when Vermeil accepted Robinson's resignation and linebackers coach Joe Vitt left for the Rams. Giunta and Dean are under scrutiny after many of the defensive backs had poor seasons. The play of safeties Greg Wesley and Jerome Woods slipped noticeably. Young cornerbacks William Bartee and Julian Battle failed to develop into reliable players. Vermeil said his coaches weren't to blame. “Peter Giunta is no more guilty now than he was 100 percent responsible for the Super Bowl championship defense and the secondary he coached with the Rams,” Vermeil said. “They coached the players we give them to coach to the best of their ability. Do I blame them if a guy blows a coverage or breaks down fundamentally? No. “If I thought they were doing a poor job of that, I would handle that. But I don't think that's true.” Vermeil last year replaced Robinson with Gunther Cunningham and Vitt with Fred Pagac, but otherwise made few changes to defensive personnel. The Chiefs were even worse defensively. They allowed 103 more points and 330 additional yards and forced 17 fewer turnovers. The Chiefs would have a second offensive staff departure if quarterback coach Jason Verduzco departs. He is a candidate to become offensive coordinator on Robinson's staff at Syracuse, where he recently became head coach. Tight-ends coach Keith Rowen left two weeks ago to become offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. He is replaced by Terry Shea, a former Chiefs assistant who spent one year with Chicago.
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