NCAA bans American Indian mascot names in the postseason

[Saulbadguy]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2125735

NCAA American Indian mascot ban will begin Feb. 1
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.

The NCAA's Executive Committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.

Nicknames or mascots deemed "hostile or abusive" would not be allowed by teams on their uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, he said.

Guidelines were not immediately available on which logos and nicknames would be considered "hostile or abusive."

The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.

Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).

The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.

Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.

[chagrin]

My FF team, the South Side Honkey Lords will now be terminated.


I am wonedering why Warrior would be offensive and my college Alma Mater name, the Demons is perfectly fine...?

[Chest Rockwell]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Monkeys hate violence.

That's why it's much better to euthanize them and dump them illegally in a ditch.

Oh yeah. I was thinking of those flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz. My bad.

Back to a moderately serious note, how did they come up with this "in the post season" thing? It's ok to offend people during the regular season, but not after that? WTF?

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell

Back to a moderately serious note, how did they come up with this "in the post season" thing? It's ok to offend people during the regular season, but not after that? WTF?

Baby steps to domination

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Uatu

Mile High Mania, I know there's an arrowhead and stuff on the logo and the stadium is named after the same, but the Chiefs were actually named after a KC mayor whose nickname was 'the chief'.

I don't think the Chiefs do any dishonor to native American traditions. You can barely see the influence anywhere except the arrowhead logo.

Good thing Warpaint died then ..............

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell

Oh yeah. I was thinking of those flying monkeys from the Wizard of Oz. My bad.

Back to a moderately serious note, how did they come up with this "in the post season" thing? It's ok to offend people during the regular season, but not after that? WTF?

Hit em where it hurts.

Postseason = big money. It's the surest way to get "compliance".

[Chest Rockwell]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Baby steps to domination

Ahhhh...sneaking up on it eh?

BTW, your location offends the Sioux. I think it might be illegal to be from there during the post season. I'd start looking for vacation property.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell

BTW, your location offends the Sioux. I think it might be illegal to be from there during the post season. I'd start looking for vacation property.

Then I'll just have to move. There is postseason for any particular sport during all parts of the year!

[cadmonkey]

Pretty ironic that this decision is coming out of INDIANapolis.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

The Fightin Whities, of course

the thing that made me laugh about that was white people instead of being offended were like..."Hell yeah...where can I get a t-shirt?" Bitchy ethnic people could learn a lesson from that IMO.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Even the Seminole tribe said they were HONORED by having Florida State use their name. Good job, NCAA.

Good thing though is the school can keep their names if they want, just can't use it on their uni's in tournaments.

They did the same exact thing with the Illiniwek tribe a number of years ago concering Chief Illiniwek and they also said they were honored and felt the Chief/name Fighting Illini was in no way offensive.

The problem is you've got other minority groups and stupid white hippies with nothing better to do protesting anything they can think of. For those that have seen PCU, those people are "causeheads".

[Rain Man]

Since I'm putting minority stats up in the DC forum, I thought I'd add this here:

Counties in the U.S. that are more than 50% Native American or Alaska Native

Geography	Percent Native American
Shannon County, South Dakota	93.68%
Wade Hampton Census Area, Alaska	91.70%
Todd County, South Dakota	82.62%
Northwest Arctic Borough, Alaska	82.05%
Bethel Census Area, Alaska	81.36%
Menominee County, Wisconsin	81.13%
Sioux County, North Dakota	80.12%
Buffalo County, South Dakota	79.13%
Apache County, Arizona	76.89%
McKinley County, New Mexico	74.51%
Nome Census Area, Alaska	74.38%
Lake and Peninsula Borough, Alaska	73.07%
Dewey County, South Dakota	71.95%
Ziebach County, South Dakota	71.50%
Rolette County, North Dakota	71.01%
Yukon-Koyukuk Census Area, Alaska	70.63%
Dillingham Census Area, Alaska	69.59%
North Slope Borough, Alaska	68.54%
Corson County, South Dakota	60.03%
Big Horn County, Montana	59.73%
Glacier County, Montana	59.33%
San Juan County, Utah	56.59%
Roosevelt County, Montana	54.96%
Bennett County, South Dakota	51.82%
Mellette County, South Dakota	51.75%
Thurston County, Nebraska	50.22%

I'm not sure of the usefulness of this, other than the general dissemination of knowledge.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Hit em where it hurts.

Postseason = big money. It's the surest way to get "compliance".

...the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools...

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, he said.

Yep... they just found a loophole. They don't have the authority to ban them fulltime, so they found a way to tell schools to change their name while still following the rules.

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, he said.

I wonder what the actual rules are in regards to school colors/logos now.... Can FSU come out in all white jerseys and shorts now?

The cost of changing your name is probably much higher than making postseason jerseys for the teams and band..... in the short & fairly long run anyway...

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

What would you guys choose for an alternate name for KC should this craziness extend into the NFL?

NOTHING! No changes. CHIEFS baby!

[Uatu]

I think KU should change its mascot, since its depiction is demeaning of homosexual barnyard fowl.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by Uatu

Mile High Mania, I know there's an arrowhead and stuff on the logo and the stadium is named after the same, but the Chiefs were actually named after a KC mayor whose nickname was 'the chief'.

I don't think the Chiefs do any dishonor to native American traditions. You can barely see the influence anywhere except the arrowhead logo.

Yeah, I've read that on the board previously, but I bet 50% or less of those that claim to be KC fans know that one.

The perception is everything you said... logo, stadium name, the chant, etc.