The "Curse of Denkinger?"

Dr. Johnny Fever · 04-07-2006, 06:52 PM

I've been thinking, with all of the curse talk over the last several years in baseball.... the bambino... the billy goat... could it be the the Royals are strapped with "the curse of Denkinger?"

We all know Jorge Orta was out at first in game six of the '85 WS. We also know how that call changed the entire momentum of the series in the Royals favor. Yes, Orta was thrown out trying to go from first to third later that inning and never scored, therefor not really having any impact on the game. But no one can deny how it turned the tide when Denkinger called him safe. We celebrated. We experienced joy and rapture. Then we went forward.

Two winning seasons I think since. Bad moves by the front office. Bad players on the field. Even many of the "good" free agents we've gotten have turned into busts once they put on the blue and white uni's. Gonzalez, Knoblach, Neifi Perez even bounced back after leaving KC. Our good young players always become stars elsewhere. Our good young players who stick around after having initial success... Berroa, Jose Rosado, Ken Harvey, etc., fall to the wayside soon after making a name for themselves.

So I ask you Royals bretheren... are we saddled with "the Curse of Denkinger?"

Or do we just plain suck?

seclark · 04-07-2006, 06:55 PM

suck
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CHIEF4EVER · 04-07-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by beer me

We all know Jorge Orta was out at first in game six of the '85 WS. We also know how that call changed the entire momentum of the series in the Royals favor. Yes, Orta was thrown out trying to go from first to third later that inning and never scored, therefor not really having any impact on the game. But no one can deny how it turned the tide when Denkinger called him safe. We celebrated. We experienced joy and rapture. Then we went forward.

I call BS. You, sir, are an undercover Redboids fan. And a bitter one at that.

StcChief · 04-07-2006, 06:56 PM

Both...Welcome your tainted WS in 85, thank Denkinger.

I hear Portland calling in 5 years. Glass will be all over it.
Blame the town for no support.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 04-07-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER

I call BS. You, sir, are an undercover Redboids fan. And a bitter one at that.

I hate the boids.

big nasty kcnut · 04-07-2006, 06:58 PM

Orta wasn't out. He was safe i don't care what anybody say.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 04-07-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kcnut

Orta wasn't out. He was safe i don't care what anybody say.

Keep the faith kid. It's the one thing they can never take away from you.

**Skip Towne** · 04-07-2006, 07:03 PM

I agree with 'Nut. He's my man.

CHIEF4EVER · 04-07-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by beer me

I hate the boids.

So, if the Cards were truly champeens, why did they get their azzes handed to the in game 7?

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-...d=198510270KCA

WilliamTheIrish · 04-07-2006, 07:29 PM

It's not the curse of Denkinger.

It's the curse of of the death of Mr. K.

The curse of the life of owners like Steinbrenner who pony up money and drive up the price of even the most mediocre players.

Of all the bad things that have happened to the Royals, losing Kaufman left the biggest void.

**MahiMike** · 04-07-2006, 07:30 PM

Hey, if we're cursed at least we have a ring. Better than 2nd place!!! I work w/a guy from St. Louis that brings up Denkinger's name all the time to me. I just laugh...

William Ligue Jr · 04-07-2006, 07:36 PM

I am the reason you suck. Tom Gamboa is my bitch.

StcChief · 04-07-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CHIEF4EVER

So, if the Cards were truly champeens, why did they get their azzes handed to the in game 7?

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/box-...d=198510270KCA

Real simple. Their would not have been a game 7. Dink's bad call was game 6.

Eleazar · 04-07-2006, 07:42 PM

I don't know if you can call it a curse, since the Royals' World Series drought ended one game later.

I think we suffer more from the curse of the accursed lineup, or the curse of the spiralling ERA

plbrdude · 04-07-2006, 08:03 PM

i call the curse of bad management

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Dr. Johnny Fever stax of wax Join Date: Feb 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	The "Curse of Denkinger?" I've been thinking, with all of the curse talk over the last several years in baseball.... the bambino... the billy goat... could it be the the Royals are strapped with "the curse of Denkinger?" We all know Jorge Orta was out at first in game six of the '85 WS. We also know how that call changed the entire momentum of the series in the Royals favor. Yes, Orta was thrown out trying to go from first to third later that inning and never scored, therefor not really having any impact on the game. But no one can deny how it turned the tide when Denkinger called him safe. We celebrated. We experienced joy and rapture. Then we went forward. Two winning seasons I think since. Bad moves by the front office. Bad players on the field. Even many of the "good" free agents we've gotten have turned into busts once they put on the blue and white uni's. Gonzalez, Knoblach, Neifi Perez even bounced back after leaving KC. Our good young players always become stars elsewhere. Our good young players who stick around after having initial success... Berroa, Jose Rosado, Ken Harvey, etc., fall to the wayside soon after making a name for themselves. So I ask you Royals bretheren... are we saddled with "the Curse of Denkinger?" Or do we just plain suck?
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StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	Both...Welcome your tainted WS in 85, thank Denkinger. I hear Portland calling in 5 years. Glass will be all over it. Blame the town for no support. __________________ sig test for this screwy schema
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big nasty kcnut The pizza king of kansas Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Somewhere in the u.s.a. Casino cash: $-2049100	Orta wasn't out. He was safe i don't care what anybody say. __________________ When it's grim, be the grim reaper and go get it. Adopt a chiefs Travis Kelce. You woke up the wrong mother****er!
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WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $2620607	It's not the curse of Denkinger. It's the curse of of the death of Mr. K. The curse of the life of owners like Steinbrenner who pony up money and drive up the price of even the most mediocre players. Of all the bad things that have happened to the Royals, losing Kaufman left the biggest void.
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MahiMike He's Mahomie! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Jax, FL Casino cash: $10023443	Hey, if we're cursed at least we have a ring. Better than 2nd place!!! I work w/a guy from St. Louis that brings up Denkinger's name all the time to me. I just laugh...
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William Ligue Jr Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	I am the reason you suck. Tom Gamboa is my bitch.
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	I don't know if you can call it a curse, since the Royals' World Series drought ended one game later. I think we suffer more from the curse of the accursed lineup, or the curse of the spiralling ERA
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plbrdude turd herder extraordiaire Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: hickville,mo Casino cash: $9997165	i call the curse of bad management
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