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Old 07-21-2006, 08:32 PM  
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Dakota Fanning to be raped onscreen

This is disturbing. I hope people boycott this movie because there's no need for crap like this.


Dakota, 12, to star in 'disturbing paedophile film'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1773

Child actress Dakota Fanning will appear in a controversial new movie featuring paedophile scenes.

War of the Worlds star Dakota, 12, has signed up to appear in Hounddog.

The screenplay calls for Fanning's character to be raped in one explicit scene and to appear naked or clad only in "underpants" in several other horrifying moments.

A source close to the film said: "The two taboos in Hollywood are child abuse and the killing of animals.

"In this movie, both things happen." Fanning's mother, Joy, and her Hollywood agent, Cindy Osbrink, see the movie, written and directed by Deborah Kampmeier, as a possible Oscar vehicle for the pint-size star.

But despite Fanning's status as a bankable actress - whose movies, including last year's War of the Worlds have earned more than half a billion dollars since 2001 - the alarming material seems to have scared off potential investors, according to the New York Daily News.

The film charts the life of a girl who is abused and finds solace in the music of Elvis Presley.

Fanning's carefully choreographed rape scene has already been filmed. But then the production - which also stars Robin Wright Penn, David Morse and Piper Laurie - was stopped because of a lack of money.

But emergency investors were found and the movie is set to be finished by the end of the week.

"It's not just the rape scene - the whole story is challenging Dakota as an actress," Fanning's agent, Osbrink, said.

"And I've never been so proud of her in my life. In every scene she gets better and better."
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Old 07-23-2006, 01:41 AM   #376
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Old 07-23-2006, 08:57 AM   #377
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Yes, I think it could be done much more tastefully. The human imagination can paint a picture much more vivid than anything that can be acted out.

You could easily create an extremely emotional before/after sequence. Just show her face right before it happens, maybe with some ominous footsteps and a line from the rapist. Then cut immediately to black.

From that black scene, cut to footsteps fading and a door slamming. Then cut to her face again. Zoom out and show her crumpled body (tastefully, no one needs to see her naked ass or anything. The scene communicates what just happened wonderfully. Showing the act just makes people uncomfortable.)
Ummm.... I'm not making any kind of judgment or saying your opinion is wrong about "less is more" because those words in your first paragraph can be found 100 times on this board from me... what I am going to say is that that scene you just described, would suck. And I'm all over the idea of not being very graphic -- Hitchcock is my idol. But that scene you described is awful.
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Old 07-23-2006, 08:59 AM   #378
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Man, how creepy. As with anything like this, I'll cast my vote by not watching.
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Old 07-23-2006, 09:18 AM   #379
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I won't be seeing this one, but the director should recall the main lesson of the immortal Alfred Hitchcock....

It's a hell of a lot more intense to imply something, than it is to show it.
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:04 PM   #380
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Look at how much pub this movie got with the controversial topic. Exactly what they wanted.

I really doubt there will be anything graphic.

This pub is worth it's weight in gold. Keep fanning the flames.
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:34 PM   #381
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I'm not reading through all of this shit, but the whole idea of this movie is simply disgusting. Child molesters don't need to be understood - they need to be KILLED. Why anybody would make a movie about this or want to watch is quite simply beyond my ability to comprehend, and I'm quite sure that's a good thing.

fucking Hollywood freaks....
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Or it could just give a bunch of child molesting freaks something to jerk off to, and perhaps a few of them might think "Hmm... raping a 12 year old would really hit the spot right now."

Agreed; it's what I thought as well.
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:59 PM   #382
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Dakota will be of legal age by the time we quit argueing about it.
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Old 01-24-2007, 08:22 AM   #383
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Film with rape scene featuring 12-year-old actress stirs debate at Sundance festival

PARK CITY, Utah (AP) – At a festival that features several films with sexual content, including full male nudity and a documentary about bestiality, a southern Gothic tale that includes the rape of a young girl is causing the biggest stir.

"Hounddog" is the story of Lewellen, a girl played by 12-year-old Dakota Fanning, who is growing up in the 1960s South. She is a free-spirit obsessed with Elvis Presley and has little supervision by her abusive father and alcoholic grandmother.

Even before the first screening of "Hounddog" at the Sundance Film Festival this week, a Christian film critic, citing Fanning's age, decried the movie as child abuse, and Roman Catholic activist Bill Donohue called for a boycott.

Fanning is defending her work as well as the movie, and so is the head of Sundance, who said it was courageous for director Deborah Kampmeier to tackle "challenging material." "Hounddog" is entered in the festival's dramatic category.

"It's not a rape movie," Fanning said Tuesday. "That's not even the point of the film."

The disturbing scene lasts a few minutes but is not graphic. There is no nudity, the scene is very darkly lit and only Fanning's face and hand are shown.

Kampmeier said it took her a decade to get the film made, largely because of the rape scene, but cutting it was a compromise she was unwilling to make.

"This issue is so silenced in our society. There are a lot of women who are alone with this story," she said.

"When you're shooting a film, it's the images you line up next to each other that create a story," Kampmeier said. "If you have a hand hitting the ground, Dakota screaming 'stop' and you see a zipper unzip – that creates a rape."

Ted Baehr, chairman of the Christian Film and Television Commission and publisher of the Web site movieguide.org, claims "Hounddog" breaks federal child-pornography law. He said the law covers material that "appears" to show minors engaging in sexually explicit conduct.

"Even if they're not actually performing the explicit act, we are dealing with a legal issue here," he said.

Baehr said Fanning is being exploited in the film, and that it should be considered an outrage.

"Children at 12 do not have the ability to make the types of decisions that we're talking about here," he said. "If we're offended by some comedian's racial slur, why aren't we offended by somebody taking advantage of a 12-year-old child?"

Two other children perform in the film. Cody Hanford plays Buddy, and Isabelle Fuhrman plays a girl nicknamed "Grasshopper."

Kampmeier said she talked with the children and their parents but didn't go into great detail with the young actors about the content.

"I didn't have to articulate to Cody and Isabelle the psychological elements that were going on in this film," she said. "I used images to tell the story. I didn't manipulate these children or explain to these children what was going on."

Fanning said she and Kampmeier talked for months before the film was shot and spent a day painting pottery together and discussing the story.

"It's not really happening," Fanning said of a rape. "It's a movie, and it's called acting. I'm not going through anything. Cody and Isabelle aren't going through anything, their characters are.

"And for me, when it's done it's done," she said. "I don't even think about it anymore."

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Old 01-24-2007, 08:23 AM   #384
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Also wanted to point this piece out...

The disturbing scene lasts a few minutes but is not graphic. There is no nudity, the scene is very darkly lit and only Fanning's face and hand are shown.




Just thought there would be a few people that were interested.
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Old 01-24-2007, 08:36 AM   #385
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Also wanted to point this piece out...

The disturbing scene lasts a few minutes but is not graphic. There is no nudity, the scene is very darkly lit and only Fanning's face and hand are shown.


I guess i won't be seeing that movie after all.
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Film with rape scene featuring 12-year-old actress stirs debate at Sundance festival

It's really not stirring that much debate as it's currently being overshadowed by a documentary about men having sex with horses...
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Now that's something that needs to be shown or implied...being entertained won't be the same without it.
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:27 AM   #389
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Now that's something that needs to be shown or implied...being entertained won't be the same without it.
That completely depends on how you define "entertained".

I think I said earlier in this thread (it was a long time ago, so I'm not sure) that I often enjoy a movie, call it "good" and "entertaining," if it elicits an emotional response from me. That means I'll likely enjoy it as a film if it can make me cry, if it makes me happy, or even if it pisses me off.

You cannot... repeat CANNOT... make a judgment on a movie you have not seen. How can you imply that the movie would be the same without the scene in question?
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Old 01-24-2007, 09:31 AM   #390
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That completely depends on how you define "entertained".

I think I said earlier in this thread (it was a long time ago, so I'm not sure) that I often enjoy a movie, call it "good" and "entertaining," if it elicits an emotional response from me. That means I'll likely enjoy it as a film if it can make me cry, if it makes me happy, or even if it pisses me off.

You cannot... repeat CANNOT... make a judgment on a movie you have not seen. How can you imply that the movie would be the same without the scene in question?
See, I'm not that way. I only "like" a movie if it instills in me a POSITIVE emotional response - the laughter produced by a comedy or the sense of justice produced by an old-fashioned Good vs. Evil story.

I just don't watch movies anymore. If I have to think about it, or "examine my inner self", or walk away from the movie feeling disgusted, depressed, or both, that's the ANTITHESIS of "entertainment".
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