That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots. - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2007, 07:33 PM

Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win.

Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back.

And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett.

The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis.

It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason.

AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion.

I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid.

This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same.

If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game.

Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?!

I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal!

YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME!

I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!

**Rain Man** · 11-18-2007, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

The draw happened at 7:08 in the game on 3rd and 18 on our own 37.

You could use as many caps as you want, but that play call is 100% standard in the league nowadays. Just about every team would do the same. The only ones who wouldn't either have Tom Brady at QB or are terrible.

Balderdash. There was seven minutes left in the game, and we were going against a strong offense. If you aren't going to try to win the game then, you simply aren't trying to win the game, period. We had one drive to win, and the coaches forced the team to give up. They in essence told the players, "You can't do it, so we're not even going to let you try."

Losing is inevitable sometimes. I can handle losing. What I can't handle is giving up without a fight and that is the mantra of Herman Edwards.

jjjayb · 11-18-2007, 07:47 PM

I couldn't have said it better myself rainmain. It amazes me that the guy who is most famous for his "you play to win the game" quote continually fails to live up to his words. I don't understand the mentality of a coach who thinks the offenses job is to just get field position. I'll be glad when this experiment is over and Cowher takes over.

stevieray · 11-18-2007, 07:49 PM

Kirk: Shields up!
Sulu:Not responding, Captain!
Bones: Damn it Jim, he's a fan. not a friggin machine!
Kirk:Scotty?
Scotty: I caan't dew anything capn, she's not holding power!
Spock:It's only Dr.Doo...err Logical...

**the Talking Can** · 11-18-2007, 07:49 PM

Don't let em bring you down Rain Man.

You're right.

DMAC · 11-18-2007, 07:50 PM

I could give two shits about the Chiefs right now.

Mizzou is giving me the best sports experience I have ever had.

I was more upset after seeing W.V. pass Mizzou in the BCS rankings than I was to see that winnable game blown by piss poor play calls.

Demonpenz · 11-18-2007, 07:50 PM

waaaaa we came really close to beating the world champs. Waaaaa

Hammock Parties · 11-18-2007, 07:52 PM

You're not close to being done. You'll be a Chiefs fan until you DIE.

Psyko Tek · 11-18-2007, 07:52 PM

two plays they called way too much
that receiver screen
and that mutha****in 3rd a way to ****in' much draw
jebus I hates our coaching staff

Zouk · 11-18-2007, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Balderdash. There was seven minutes left in the game, and we were going against a strong offense. If you aren't going to try to win the game then, you simply aren't trying to win the game, period. We had one drive to win, and the coaches forced the team to give up. They in essence told the players, "You can't do it, so we're not even going to let you try."

Losing is inevitable sometimes. I can handle losing. What I can't handle is giving up without a fight and that is the mantra of Herman Edwards.

That strong offense had no Marvin Harrison and both starting offensive tackles were out. They scored 10 points in 3 and a half quarters, with 3 of those points coming off a 10 years field after the Mathis strip sack.

The chance of our offense converting 3rd and 18 on the road is less than 10%. The coaches have numbers on all this. And that's why ALL the coaches in the league do the same thing.

**Skip Towne** · 11-18-2007, 07:52 PM

Hey, Kevin, what did you think of our last "drive" before the half?

Coach · 11-18-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Hey, Kevin, what did you think of our last "drive" before the half?

Christ almighty, don't get me started on it. This game was lost at the end of the first half. "Points? Points? Don't talk to me about points!?" That must be Herm's motto, because running over a minute and 15 seconds off the clock at the end of the half for the second week in a row, without trying to score is definitely NOT showing me that "You play to win the game."

**BigMeatballDave** · 11-18-2007, 07:57 PM

I cannot recall Rainman ever going off like this. He's so mild-mannered, this is somewhat disturbing. More evidence Herm and Carl's ineptitude has reached critical mass...

jjjayb · 11-18-2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

waaaaa we came really close to beating the world champs. Waaaaa

Ohh yippeee! We barely lost another one. We may be losing games but we're keeping them close and exciting! Yeah! That makes losing so much better! We may not have a great record, but at least we kept games close! Woopee!! Yeah!!!! Go herm!!!!

MadMax · 11-18-2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray

Kirk: Shields up!
Sulu:Not responding, Captain!
Bones: Damn it Jim, he's a fan. not a friggin machine!
Kirk:Scotty?
Scotty: I caan't dew anything capn, she's not holding power!
Spock:It's only Dr.Doo...err Logical...

KCFalcon59 · 11-18-2007, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk

Yeah, that's what happened all year. Our O-line, fullback, and Dunn getting physically manhandled.

It's hard to call plays when the players get their ass kicked physically on most downs.

At that point in the game they were expecting a run. We should have either play actioned or rolled Croyle out to throw a pass which he did a good job of during the game.

View Poll Results: In what manner would you like to see Herm Edwards fired? (Multiple choice)
Push him out of the plane over Illinois.	22	26.83%
Take his airline ticket and make him hitchhike...in a skirt.	15	18.29%
As opposed to merely firing him, set the idiot on fire.	15	18.29%
Tie him to Paul Hackett and force them to beat each other to death.	17	20.73%
Nukes, special forces, anything. How it happens doesn't matter.	19	23.17%
Be professional and just fire him in his office. With a big stick with a nail in it.	14	17.07%
It cannot stop at Herman Edwards. We have to exterminate the whole front office roachbed.	38	46.34%
Actually, I'm thrilled with Herman Edwards' "it's a win if you're within seven points" philosophy.	11	13.41%
Trade him to the Raiders by telling Al Davis that he throws the ball downfield.	18	21.95%
Hold a big team meeting and fire him in front of everybody, and make him walk out dragging the Boulder of Shame.	26	31.71%
I have some other plan for firing him, described in my post.	5	6.10%
I haven't yet decided if his "play to lose close" philosophy is a problem, and I can't feed myself.	12	14.63%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

11-18-2007, 07:33 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-472449 VARSITY	That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots. Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win. Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back. And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett. The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis. It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason. AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion. I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid. This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same. If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game. Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?! I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!
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11-18-2007, 07:47 PM	#17
jjjayb MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back in K.C. baby!!!! Casino cash: $4453433	I couldn't have said it better myself rainmain. It amazes me that the guy who is most famous for his "you play to win the game" quote continually fails to live up to his words. I don't understand the mentality of a coach who thinks the offenses job is to just get field position. I'll be glad when this experiment is over and Cowher takes over.
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11-18-2007, 07:49 PM	#18
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11-18-2007, 07:49 PM	#19
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11-18-2007, 07:50 PM	#20
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11-18-2007, 07:50 PM	#21
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11-18-2007, 07:52 PM	#22
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11-18-2007, 07:52 PM	#23
Psyko Tek special teams Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mesa AZ Casino cash: $10015665	two plays they called way too much that receiver screen and that mutha**in 3rd a way to **in' much draw jebus I hates our coaching staff __________________ Psyko Tek The keyboard has been drinking,
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11-18-2007, 07:52 PM	#25
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	Hey, Kevin, what did you think of our last "drive" before the half?
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11-18-2007, 07:57 PM	#27
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	I cannot recall Rainman ever going off like this. He's so mild-mannered, this is somewhat disturbing. More evidence Herm and Carl's ineptitude has reached critical mass...
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