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Push him out of the plane over Illinois. |
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Take his airline ticket and make him hitchhike...in a skirt. |
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15 | 18.29% |
As opposed to merely firing him, set the idiot on fire. |
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15 | 18.29% |
Tie him to Paul Hackett and force them to beat each other to death. |
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17 | 20.73% |
Nukes, special forces, anything. How it happens doesn't matter. |
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19 | 23.17% |
Be professional and just fire him in his office. With a big stick with a nail in it. |
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14 | 17.07% |
It cannot stop at Herman Edwards. We have to exterminate the whole front office roachbed. |
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38 | 46.34% |
Actually, I'm thrilled with Herman Edwards' "it's a win if you're within seven points" philosophy. |
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11 | 13.41% |
Trade him to the Raiders by telling Al Davis that he throws the ball downfield. |
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18 | 21.95% |
Hold a big team meeting and fire him in front of everybody, and make him walk out dragging the Boulder of Shame. |
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26 | 31.71% |
I have some other plan for firing him, described in my post. |
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5 | 6.10% |
I haven't yet decided if his "play to lose close" philosophy is a problem, and I can't feed myself. |
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12 | 14.63% |
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We had 12 drives in this game. 12 chance to score. Let's look at them.
Drive 1 1st Quarter expand [+] collapse [-] Kansas City Chiefs at 15:00 4-A.Vinatieri kicks 60 yards from IND 30 to KC 10. 80-J.Webb to KC 33 for 23 yards (52-R.Guzman, 50-R.Boiman). 1-10-KC 33 (14:55) 31-P.Holmes left end to KC 37 for 4 yards (99-E.Johnson). 2-6-KC 37 (14:19) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to KC 42 for 5 yards (58-G.Brackett). 3-1-KC 42 (13:37) 21-K.Smith left tackle to KC 43 for 1 yard (99-E.Johnson, 58-G.Brackett). 1-10-KC 43 (13:02) 12-B.Croyle pass short right to 82-D.Bowe pushed ob at KC 48 for 5 yards (50-R.Boiman). 2-5-KC 48 (12:31) 31-P.Holmes right end to IND 49 for 3 yards (98-R.Mathis). PENALTY on KC-60-C.Terry, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at KC 48 - No Play. 2-15-KC 38 (12:09) (Shotgun) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to KC 41 for 3 yards (21-B.Sanders). 3-12-KC 41 (11:24) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass short middle to 31-P.Holmes to KC 42 for 1 yard (28-M.Jackson). 4-11-KC 42 (10:47) 2-D.Colquitt punts 29 yards to IND 29, Center-51-J.Darche, fair catch by 34-T.Rushing. Drive went well until the holding call, and then Herm freaking gave up! Called a run on 2nd and 15, and then a 0% short pass on third down. Grade: F Drive 2 Kansas City Chiefs at 07:59 1-10-KC 39 (7:59) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to KC 41 for 2 yards (91-J.Thomas, 79-R.Brock). 2-8-KC 41 (7:15) 31-P.Holmes right end to KC 43 for 2 yards (21-B.Sanders, 98-R.Mathis). 3-6-KC 43 (6:29) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete short middle to 82-D.Bowe. 4-6-KC 43 (6:25) 2-D.Colquitt punts 44 yards to IND 13, Center-51-J.Darche, fair catch by 34-T.Rushing. 3rd down, went for a short pass in front of the first down marker. Anyone remember this? Someone screwed up the route, because all four Chiefs receivers ran short routes into the middle of the field. Probably an execution error, because if the play was designed that way, I'm going to ram my car packed with explosives into Solari's office. Grade: C Drive 3 Kansas City Chiefs at 01:34 1-10-KC 28 (1:34) 12-B.Croyle pass short middle to 88-T.Gonzalez to KC 36 for 8 yards (21-B.Sanders). 2-2-KC 36 (:47) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to KC 46 for 10 yards (50-R.Boiman). 1-10-KC 46 (:11) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete short right to 31-P.Holmes. 2-10-KC 46 (:05) (Shotgun) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to IND 48 for 6 yards (28-M.Jackson, 21-B.Sanders). END QUARTER 1 2nd Quarter expand [+] collapse [-] Kansas City Chiefs continues ... 3-4-IND 48 (15:00) 12-B.Croyle pass short left to 84-K.Wilson to IND 42 for 6 yards (54-F.Keiaho). 1-10-IND 42 (14:23) 12-B.Croyle pass short left to 82-D.Bowe pushed ob at IND 35 for 7 yards (50-R.Boiman). 2-3-IND 35 (14:02) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to IND 32 for 3 yards (54-F.Keiaho). 1-10-IND 32 (13:17) 12-B.Croyle pass short right to 82-D.Bowe pushed ob at IND 25 for 7 yards (21-B.Sanders, 26-K.Hayden). 2-3-IND 25 (12:41) PENALTY on KC-89-J.Dunn, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at IND 25 - No Play. 2-8-IND 30 (12:17) 31-P.Holmes left tackle pushed ob at IND 26 for 4 yards (41-A.Bethea). 3-4-IND 26 (11:44) 31-P.Holmes left end to IND 25 for 1 yard (58-G.Brackett). 4-3-IND 25 (11:07) 6-D.Rayner 43 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-51-J.Darche, Holder-2-D.Colquitt. I'm not averse on the occasional run on 2nd and long, but WE ALWAYS DO IT! ALWAYS! It's a give-up play in this system. We did it twice on this drive, and it managed to work once just because we made a third-and-intermdiate. Grade: D- Drive 4 Kansas City Chiefs at 10:57 1-10-IND 37 (10:57) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to IND 32 for 5 yards (26-K.Hayden, 50-R.Boiman). 2-5-IND 32 (10:20) 12-B.Croyle pass short right to 87-E.Kennison to IND 28 for 4 yards (26-K.Hayden). 3-1-IND 28 (9:41) 31-P.Holmes left end to IND 29 for -1 yards (26-K.Hayden). 4-2-IND 29 (9:00) 6-D.Rayner 47 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-51-J.Darche, Holder-2-D.Colquitt. KC 3 IND 0 Plays: 4 Possession: 2:02 No real problem here. It didn't work because of execution. Grade: A Drive 5 Kansas City Chiefs at 07:26 1-10-IND 49 (7:26) 12-B.Croyle pass short right to 80-J.Webb to IND 44 for 5 yards (26-K.Hayden, 54-F.Keiaho). 2-5-IND 44 (6:44) 12-B.Croyle pass short right to 88-T.Gonzalez to IND 31 for 13 yards (21-B.Sanders, 41-A.Bethea). 1-10-IND 31 (5:57) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete deep right to 18-S.Parker. 2-10-IND 31 (5:49) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to IND 28 for 3 yards (99-E.Johnson). 3-7-IND 28 (5:08) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete short left to 82-D.Bowe. 4-7-IND 28 (5:02) 6-D.Rayner 45 yard field goal is No Good, Hit Left Upright, Center-51-J.Darche, Holder-2-D.Colquitt. AUUUUUUUGHHHHH! No more runs on second and long! I'm not kidding! Don't ever do this again! And then let's follow it up with a pass route short of the marker. Grade: F- Drive 6 Kansas City Chiefs at 04:04 1-10-KC 22 (4:04) 31-P.Holmes right tackle to KC 24 for 2 yards (54-F.Keiaho, 98-R.Mathis). 2-8-KC 24 (3:29) (Shotgun) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to KC 27 for 3 yards (79-R.Brock). 3-5-KC 27 (2:48) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle sacked at KC 20 for -7 yards (98-R.Mathis). FUMBLES (98-R.Mathis), RECOVERED by IND-96-K.Dawson at KC 23. 96-K.Dawson to KC 13 for 10 yards (60-C.Terry). Four sack yards. I'm beyond words at this point. Grade: F- Drive 7 Kansas City Chiefs at 01:18 4-A.Vinatieri kicks 63 yards from IND 30 to KC 7. 80-J.Webb to KC 23 for 16 yards (95-D.Reid). 1-10-KC 23 (1:15) (Shotgun) 21-K.Smith up the middle to KC 27 for 4 yards (54-F.Keiaho, 98-R.Mathis). 2-6-KC 27 (:42) 21-K.Smith up the middle to KC 32 for 5 yards (96-K.Dawson). END QUARTER 2 You have timeouts. You have a strong-armed quarterback. Why not take one hail mary downfield just to see what happens? The odds of something good happening are better than those of something bad happening. Grade: D Drive 8 Kansas City Chiefs at 14:09 1-10-KC 34 (14:09) 12-B.Croyle pass short left to 82-D.Bowe to KC 34 for no gain (28-M.Jackson, 50-R.Boiman). 2-10-KC 34 (13:33) 12-B.Croyle scrambles up the middle to KC 38 for 4 yards (54-F.Keiaho). PENALTY on KC-76-J.Welbourn, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at KC 34 - No Play. 2-20-KC 24 (13:08) (Shotgun) 31-P.Holmes up the middle to KC 27 for 3 yards (21-B.Sanders). 3-17-KC 27 (12:31) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete short middle to 31-P.Holmes. 4-17-KC 27 (12:22) 2-D.Colquitt punts 44 yards to IND 29, Center-51-J.Darche. 34-T.Rushing to IND 36 for 7 yards (34-T.Brackenridge). ![]() ![]() ![]() Grade: F- Drive 9 Kansas City Chiefs at 07:17 4-A.Vinatieri kicks 70 yards from IND 30 to KC 0. 80-J.Webb to KC 23 for 23 yards (60-J.Charleston, 50-R.Boiman). 1-10-KC 23 (7:12) 31-P.Holmes left tackle to KC 25 for 2 yards (50-R.Boiman). 2-8-KC 25 (6:35) 21-K.Smith left tackle to KC 27 for 2 yards (54-F.Keiaho, 91-J.Thomas). 3-6-KC 27 (5:49) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass short left to 21-K.Smith to KC 34 for 7 yards (58-G.Brackett). 1-10-KC 34 (5:08) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete short left to 18-S.Parker. 2-10-KC 34 (5:05) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete short left to 82-D.Bowe. PENALTY on IND-79-R.Brock, Defensive Offside, 5 yards, enforced at KC 34 - No Play. 2-5-KC 39 (5:01) 12-B.Croyle pass short right to 84-K.Wilson to KC 43 for 4 yards (54-F.Keiaho, 26-K.Hayden). 3-1-KC 43 (4:13) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass short left to 82-D.Bowe to IND 45 for 12 yards (28-M.Jackson). 1-10-IND 45 (3:34) 21-K.Smith up the middle to IND 40 for 5 yards (54-F.Keiaho, 97-Q.Pitcock). 2-5-IND 40 (2:56) 12-B.Croyle pass deep middle to 88-T.Gonzalez to IND 22 for 18 yards (41-A.Bethea). 1-10-IND 22 (2:15) (Shotgun) 21-K.Smith up the middle to IND 19 for 3 yards (95-D.Reid, 58-G.Brackett). 2-7-IND 19 (1:34) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete deep left to 88-T.Gonzalez. 3-7-IND 19 (1:29) 12-B.Croyle pass deep right to 82-D.Bowe for 19 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Indianapolis challenged the pass completion ruling, and the play was Upheld. (Timeout #1 at 01:22.) 6-D.Rayner extra point is GOOD, Center-51-J.Darche, Holder-2-D.Colquitt. KC 10 IND 10 Plays: 11 Possession: 5:55 Take note. Take note of what happened on second down. Take note of what happened on third down. Now look at the outcome. Grade: A Drive 10 Kansas City Chiefs at 14:53 1-10-KC 37 (14:53) 31-P.Holmes left end to KC 35 for -2 yards (28-M.Jackson). 2-12-KC 35 (14:17) 12-B.Croyle pass incomplete short right to 82-D.Bowe. 3-12-KC 35 (14:11) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass short middle to 21-K.Smith to KC 46 for 11 yards (41-A.Bethea). 4-1-KC 46 (13:25) 2-D.Colquitt punts 30 yards to IND 24, Center-51-J.Darche, fair catch by 34-T.Rushing. I'm not going to complain about this one. Grade: B Drive 11 Kansas City Chiefs at 10:59 1-10-KC 24 (10:59) 31-P.Holmes left tackle to KC 24 for no gain (58-G.Brackett). 2-10-KC 24 (10:23) 12-B.Croyle pass short right to 88-T.Gonzalez to KC 31 for 7 yards (26-K.Hayden, 54-F.Keiaho). 3-3-KC 31 (9:39) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass short middle to 82-D.Bowe to KC 45 for 14 yards (41-A.Bethea). 1-10-KC 45 (8:58) 21-K.Smith left end to KC 40 for -5 yards (91-J.Thomas). 2-15-KC 40 (8:18) 12-B.Croyle sacked at KC 37 for -3 yards (79-R.Brock). 3-18-KC 37 (7:41) (Shotgun) 21-K.Smith left tackle to KC 39 for 2 yards (26-K.Hayden, 58-G.Brackett). 4-16-KC 39 (7:08) 2-D.Colquitt punts 37 yards to IND 24, Center-51-J.Darche. 34-T.Rushing to IND 33 for 9 yards (97-K.Fox). Bad drive overall, and then the coaches gave up. Grade: D Drive 12 Kansas City Chiefs at 00:03 4-A.Vinatieri kicks 30 yards from IND 30 to KC 40, out of bounds. 1-10-KC 40 (:03) (Shotgun) 12-B.Croyle pass short left to 21-K.Smith to IND 44 for 16 yards. Lateral to 18-S.Parker to IND 37 for 7 yards. FUMBLES, touched at IND 39, ball out of bounds at IND 39. END GAME Didn't even throw it long here. Idiots. Grade: F- I count six drives where our offensive play calling essentially conceded the drive. Six drives out of 11, if you don't count the last three seconds of the game. Other teams try to score 11 times, and we try to score six times, and we're supposed to win? Fire Herman Edwards tonight, Clark. Let Gunther finish out the season.
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Wow. Passing on second down seems to be a good thing.
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And sure, most of the time we won't convert a third and long. But sometimes we will, and that drive could produce a score. And even if we don't, we could possibly get more yards on a passing play. This running on third and long is so...so...Paul Hackett that it makes me want to scream. It's a nightmare that I had hoped was over.
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You 're killing me.
You're telling me we can't run on 1st and 10, and then we can't run on 2nd and long (which most of the time was after an incomplete on 1st down). It's always we need to throw throw throw. Robert Mathis vs. Terry / Turley is a mismatch. If we throw a lot, we get strip sacks. This is proven over and over again. We try to control the number of situations in which our passer is exposed. That's how we keep a game close when we are clearly outmatched by the Super Bowl champs on the road. |
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The running on third and long isn't hard to explain. Herm and company are so afraid of a sack on second and long, they'd rather run it and face third and 7.
At times like these I think it's best just to accept the fact that unless we have a dominant running game, the offense won't succeed while Herm is here.
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Protect the ball, play D, run the ball.
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Once in a while. All I ask is that once in a while we try to keep a drive going if first down isn't successful. We have teams putting 8 or 9 in the box on 2nd and long and 3rd and long now. Just one time in four or five if we don't care about winning, just one time in four or five, let's try a pass in a passing situation. There's a reason that they're called passing situations. They aren't supposed to be called prep-for-punting situations. They're passing situations. Let's give it a whirl and see what happens.
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I don't know what's wrong with you people. The Chiefs are simply not a good team. Lot's of young talented players on the defensive side of the ball. But inconsistent. That's what young players are.. inconsistent. We need serious help on the offensive line. Croyle may win a few games down the stretch but he may also cause a couple of losses as well. We've got to win out to go 10-6 and that's not going to happen.
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