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View Poll Results: In what manner would you like to see Herm Edwards fired? (Multiple choice)
Push him out of the plane over Illinois. 22 26.83%
Take his airline ticket and make him hitchhike...in a skirt. 15 18.29%
As opposed to merely firing him, set the idiot on fire. 15 18.29%
Tie him to Paul Hackett and force them to beat each other to death. 17 20.73%
Nukes, special forces, anything. How it happens doesn't matter. 19 23.17%
Be professional and just fire him in his office. With a big stick with a nail in it. 14 17.07%
It cannot stop at Herman Edwards. We have to exterminate the whole front office roachbed. 38 46.34%
Actually, I'm thrilled with Herman Edwards' "it's a win if you're within seven points" philosophy. 11 13.41%
Trade him to the Raiders by telling Al Davis that he throws the ball downfield. 18 21.95%
Hold a big team meeting and fire him in front of everybody, and make him walk out dragging the Boulder of Shame. 26 31.71%
I have some other plan for firing him, described in my post. 5 6.10%
I haven't yet decided if his "play to lose close" philosophy is a problem, and I can't feed myself. 12 14.63%
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:33 PM  
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That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots.

Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win.

Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back.

And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett.

The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis.

It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason.

AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion.

I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid.

This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same.

If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game.

Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?!

I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal!

YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME!

I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:15 PM   #106
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In people's minds, Brodie Croyle is Tom Brady. But the fact is in the preseason he was a turnover machine. The chances are that if we opened it up, it would have looked like the 3rd quarter of the Broncos game.

Look at the Bills tonight, they came out throwing a lot and throwing deep. They threw a pick, had a bunch of incomplete passes and sacks, played at the Pats' preferred tempo, and are down 35-7. Yay! Agressive! Ballsy!

are you on Carl's payroll?

the way you keep bringing up that Huard brilliant start to the 3rd qtr of the Bronco's game makes me believe so.



what you and Demonpenz are missing here is, the people complaining here are not really asking for the offense to be opened wide gunslinging, we would just like something a little less predictable and see a risk taken every once in a while...
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:15 PM   #107
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Bearcat, if you don't have Peyton Manning or Tom Brady you win playoff games on the road just like this. Ugly it up and win the turnover margin. The historical record is clear on this.
You have to get to the playoffs first.
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In people's minds, Brodie Croyle is Tom Brady. But the fact is in the preseason he was a turnover machine. The chances are that if we opened it up, it would have looked like the 3rd quarter of the Broncos game.

Look at the Bills tonight, they came out throwing a lot and throwing deep. They threw a pick, had a bunch of incomplete passes and sacks, played at the Pats' preferred tempo, and are down 35-7. Yay! Agressive! Ballsy!

Honestly, I'd rather go down fighting than going down with a whimper like today. We were France today. France!
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:17 PM   #109
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I love the delusion here.

If we just come out on the road with a QB in his first game, Chris Terry and John Welbourn on the right side, and our only good receiver a rookie and throw the ball a lot, we beat the Super Bowl champs easy!

What's driving me crazy and making me post so much tonight is that this game actually validates Herm as the guy to take us to the next level. Once we get better offensive talent this offseason, with his D we can win these games that only teams like the Pats can!
The Pats are avg 40points a game and are winning almost every game by 3+ Touchdowns.

This team has enough talent to score 3 touchdowns a game. That's not even one TD a quarter people. It isn't asking much. These coaches are not allowing this team to move the chains.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:17 PM   #110
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Bearcat, if you don't have Peyton Manning or Tom Brady you win playoff games on the road just like this. Ugly it up and win the turnover margin. The historical record is clear on this.
You tell me the last time you saw Manning or Brady sqaut on the Ball with a minute and a half and 3 timeouts.........Oh that's right Their coaches aren't cowards.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:17 PM   #111
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Yeah, but you can't plan to not fumble or not miss field goals. You can plan to challenge the defense once in a while.

When the 49ers were in their glory years, I wonder how often they got the ball with 8 minutes left in the game and played to position the ball for a punt? How about the Patriots now? Or the Colts last year? Or even the Chiefs from 2002 to 2004? I can't even imagine Joe Montana running draws on third and long with eight minutes left in the game. Real teams go out and beat their opponents, they don't plan their whole game plan around positioning to get a good punt.
The whole point is that the talent on our offense is much closer to the 2007 49ers than the 1987 49ers. Different play calling won't change that. We can't expect a rookie QB throwing to a rookie WR behind a bad offensive line to play like the 49ers in their prime. Our best chance to win this game was to play around the offense. It nearly worked!
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:17 PM   #112
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but but but bRAinman......

Don't you know, if Croyle had thrown an INT, the Chiefs wouldn't have won?

Proper proceedure, as you know is to punt, and hope the other team effs up on the last drive.

Its ARENA football if you don't wait until the last drive to win.

I mean, look at those stupid Patriots, up by 3 TDs with 2 Minutes left in the first half....THROWING.....for another TD.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:17 PM   #113
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How often will you win an NFL game when scoring 10 points?

In Herms mind our defense has to give up 9 and then we win.

Our in game coaching decisions stink. It seems like I was saying when
DV was our head coach too.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:18 PM   #114
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are you on Carl's payroll?

the way you keep bringing up that Huard brilliant start to the 3rd qtr of the Bronco's game makes me believe so.



what you and Demonpenz are missing here is, the people complaining here are not really asking for the offense to be opened wide gunslinging, we would just like something a little less predictable and see a risk taken every once in a while...

people went balistic when we turned it over doing that bullshit
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Bearcat, if you don't have Peyton Manning or Tom Brady you win playoff games on the road just like this. Ugly it up and win the turnover margin. The historical record is clear on this.
If Herm had Brady or Manning do you really think they would look like Brady or Manning? Or would they be there to just run out the clock for the defense. Cause after all, Herm's philosophy is too many points hurst your defense.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:18 PM   #116
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You tell me the last time you saw Manning or Brady sqaut on the Ball with a minute and a half and 2 timeouts.........Oh that's right Their coaches aren't cowards.

Belichick coached different in Cleveland, and Dungy coached different in Tampa. You guys have the chicken and egg situation turned on its head. The players determine the playcalling, not the other way around.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:19 PM   #117
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Herm is the most cowardace(?) coach that I have ever seen. My most hated Chief ever.
Cowardly, like the lion. He's close enough to Kansas, he should find a wizard somewhere to give him courage, and maybe a brain for Mike.
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I'm not pissed.....I expected a loss, and they were in the game.

I'm glad the youngsters are seeing the field....keep that going.

On the other hand, I'd prefer.....while she's very knowledgeable with football......that my wife not be able to predict the Chiefs offensive series'.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:21 PM   #119
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people went balistic when we turned it over doing that bullshit
Carl, people were already going ballistic because Huard was on the field to start the 2nd half of that game!!


Huard just made it worse...
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In Herms mind our defense has to give up 9 and then we win.

Our in game coaching decisions stink. It seems like I was saying when
DV was our head coach too.
Herm is living in the past. 50 years ago, before facemasks and Wide Receivers, You just lined up and tried to push the other team off the ball. But that hasn't worked in years. Somebody should email Herm about it. Oh, wait, Herm doesn't know how to use the internet.
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