No Wonder the Chiefs are Terrible

[catfish307]

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No Wonder the Chiefs are Terrible Mar 12, 2008 | 11:16AM | report this I was out in Las Vegas over the weekend and took notice of the favorites to win the Super Bowl next year. Your Kansas City Chiefs, at 225-1 odds, are tied with the Falcons for the worst odds to win the Championship. I'm not the least bit surprised. They don't have a clue. GM Carl Peterson, he of the two playoff wins in 20 years as the President of the team, doesn't believe in signing free agents, so he's let talented players such as Bernard Berrian, and Alan Faneca, two players I was desperately hoping the Chiefs would take a look at, sign elsewhere. Instead Peterson has opted to bring in two free agents I've never heard of: WR Devard Darling, and LB Demorrio Williams. Peterson's strategy of relying heavily on the draft (much like the Pittsburgh Steelers) to replenish talent is not entirely bad in and of itself. Except that Peterson can't draft! Since 2000 (8 total NFL drafts), Peterson has drafted three Pro Bowlers (Dante Hall, Larry Johnson, and Jared Allen). Over that time, Pittsburgh has draftd six Pro Bowlers but three more are worthy. The Chiefs have the second lowest payroll in the NFL, about $45 million less than what New England spent last year. They've just recently released high salaried players Ty Law ($5 million), and Eddie Kennison ($2.1 million), and a host of other players (Kendrell Bell, Eddie Drummond, Greg Wesley, and Samie Parker), players whose salries total in excess of $10 million, don't figure to be back. There's no reason Kansas City couldn't have been a bigger player in the Faneca sweepstakes. I've heard nothing about the Chiefs' interest in Derek Anderson or Donovan McNabb either. The biggest problem with Peterson's philosophy is his goal at the beginning of every season. As we learned on HBO's Hard Knocks last year, Peterson addresses his subordinates each training camp stating that the team's goal is "to win the trophy bearing our founder's name." Of course, that trophy would be that of Lamar Hunt, which goes to the team that wins the AFC each year. I wonder if Peterson realizes that by winning the Lombardi trophy he'll have automatically addressed all other trophies coming before it. If your goal isn't to win the Super Bowl, it's never going to happen. When the Chiefs finish the 2008 season at 4-12 again, it'll be high time for Chiefs fans to see Peterson's head on a stick outside Arrowhead Stadium. While we're there, might as well bring Herm Edwards with him.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

This guy has a future writing for WPI.

Not sure WPI guys are this good. But, none the less, he could write for them.

[penguinz]

When did we release wesley?

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Not sure WPI guys are this good. But, none the less, he could write for them.

Really? I had a hard time taking the guy seriously after reading this part.

GM Carl Peterson, he of the two playoff wins in 20 years as the President of the team, doesn't believe in signing free agents

[TEX]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I didn't realize Bernard Berrian and Alan Faneca were the missing pieces between us and a Superbowl. Although I'd probably know that if I spent more time here gleaning the wisdom the planet has to offer.

You'd know if you would actully read what people say before adding to siad wisdom. He didn't say that. All he said was he wanted the Chiefs to make more of an effort trying to sign those players.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by TEX

You'd know if you would actully read what people say before adding to siad wisdom. He didn't say that. All he said was he wanted the Chiefs to make more of an effort trying to sign those players.

Why? To turn a 4-12 season into a 6-10 one?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by TEX

You'd know if you would actully read what people say before adding to siad wisdom. He didn't say that. All he said was he wanted the Chiefs to make more of an effort trying to sign those players.

Yes, because I never, ever read what anybody says. Right. Because that must be it, if I don't agree out-of-hand. Well, gee whiz, after reading that, I guess I see the wisdom now. Let's do what the Chiefs have done for fifteen years and sign old players on the decline or young players with no real upside to high-dollar contracts. I mean, it's worked so well historically, I don't see why we'd want to change tack now. Color me convinced. Signing players for the sake of signing is the way to win!

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think he should have given over football operations years ago. He's successful as team president, but I believe he's a failure as a GM. I say "failure" because, ultimately, it's a results-based business, and, while the early 90's can at least be argued to have been successful, the team's gone nowhere in a full decade. And in my mind, there's no justification at all for a GM holding a job with a team that hasn't won a playoff game in almost 15 years.

We can debate picks and coaches and whatever else, but, in the end, wins and losses really tell the tale...

Agreed, agreed, agreed!

Hopefully, this next season is his last season as the wearer of many hats in Kansas City.

[el borracho]

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Carl was 69-59 without Marty before Herm. He is now 73-71. A huge swing the wrong way. Herm+Carl = 13-19. One more year together and Carl will be under .500 since Marty. Reason enough to send this clown packing.

Agreed. There can be no justification for retaining below .500 management and coaching. I will probably still watch all of the games but the only thing I want from the 2008 season is to see Carl and Herm fired.

[FloridaMan88]

It really is amazing what Clark Hunt has been able to accomplish this offseason, all while being able to stay on the good side of most Chiefs fans because of his shrewd media blitz back in January.

Clark Hunt has:

1) Kept Dictator Carl on board to keep the season ticket money flowing and Arrowhead full.

2) Slashed the Chiefs payroll to the point that it is on its way to reaching Royals-caliber low. This is similar to what the Arizona Cardinals have done for many years under the Bidwells and what the 49ers did a few years ago when John York initially took over ownership of the team. They essentially got rid of everyone to reduce payroll.

3) Kept the inept and highly unpopular Herm on board as head coach.


I'm not sure how any of those actions are consistent with Clark's claims that his and the franchise's #1 goal is winning a Super Bowl or meeting his stated expectations for next season which is to compete for a playoff spot.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

It really is amazing what Clark Hunt has been able to accomplish this offseason, all while being able to stay on the good side of most Chiefs fans because of his shrewd media blitz back in January.

Clark Hunt has:

1) Kept Dictator Carl on board to keep the season ticket money flowing and Arrowhead full.

2) Slashed the Chiefs payroll to the point that it is on its way to reaching Royals-caliber low. This is similar to what the Arizona Cardinals have done for many years under the Bidwells and what the 49ers did a few years ago when John York initially took over ownership of the team. They essentially got rid of everyone to reduce payroll.

3) Kept the inept and highly unpopular Herm on board as head coach.


I'm not sure how any of those actions are consistent with Clark's claims that his and the franchise's #1 goal is winning a Super Bowl or meeting his stated expectations for next season which is to compete for a playoff spot.

There's a salary floor you ****ing dolt.

Each team is required to spend approximately 85% of the cap. Comes to just under $99M.

We just gave Tony Gonzalez and Larry Johnson obscene contracts.

We're about to give one to Jared Allen.

We're also about to give one to the 5th overall pick in the draft.

[Halfcan]

yep carl sucks

[1ChiefsDan]

Wow - when was that posted. Apparently Vegas loves the Chiefs moves since:

Kansas City Chiefs

100/1

http://www.vegas.com/gaming/futures/

GO CHIEFS!

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

This guy has a future writing for WPI.

Nope. We have higher standards.

[1ChiefsDan]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

It really is amazing what Clark Hunt has been able to accomplish this offseason, all while being able to stay on the good side of most Chiefs fans because of his shrewd media blitz back in January.

Clark Hunt has:

1) Kept Dictator Carl on board to keep the season ticket money flowing and Arrowhead full.

2) Slashed the Chiefs payroll to the point that it is on its way to reaching Royals-caliber low. This is similar to what the Arizona Cardinals have done for many years under the Bidwells and what the 49ers did a few years ago when John York initially took over ownership of the team. They essentially got rid of everyone to reduce payroll.

3) Kept the inept and highly unpopular Herm on board as head coach.


I'm not sure how any of those actions are consistent with Clark's claims that his and the franchise's #1 goal is winning a Super Bowl or meeting his stated expectations for next season which is to compete for a playoff spot.

Sure - because every team (or company for that matter) should make decisions based on what a bunch of posters on a bb say.

[whoman69]

I have never bought into the high priced free agent market in the violent world of the NFL. IMO most who qualify for this status are already used up or the product of a system that allows them to succeed. Its not that the Chiefs haven't gotten into the free agent market, they have. They make really bad decisions on free agents in odd numbered years and get totally out of the market in even numbered years. We also have a front office which relies more on athletic prowess than game film in evaluating talent for the draft.