2005 NFL Draft franchise changers....

[PatriotofMaine]

There aren't that many this year, but here they are:

Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan
Mike Williams, WR, (formerly of USC)
J.J. Arrington, RB, California
Cedric Benson, RB, Texa
Aaron Rogers, QB, California
Channing Crowder, LB, Florida
Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin
Heath Miller, TE, Virginia

The sucky thing is that they may all be gone....(except Arrington--who we don't need....)

[CoMoChief]

Probably what we should have done is kept Jared Allen, so that our Defense could be talented enough to actually win games for this team, and should have snagged a OT in the 2nd round. We could have traded up for Flowers if need be.

Now without him (Allen) I doubt we can make that happen. And we could have just gotten our LTOFT in Oher this season.

The lack of a RB and running game is what hurt the Offense more than just Oline play in the passing game. When LJ was in the lineup the Chiefs were 4-3 with the same Oline.

I just don't think that a backup RB, a blocking TE, and a Safety will ever grow to the potential value that Allen already had for this team.

[StcChief]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Probably what we should have done is kept Jared Allen, so that our Defense could be talented enough to actually win games for this team, and should have snagged a OT in the 2nd round. We could have traded up for Flowers if need be.

Now without him (Allen) I doubt we can make that happen. And we could have just gotten our LTOFT in Oher this season.

The lack of a RB and running game is what hurt the Offense more than just Oline play in the passing game. When LJ was in the lineup the Chiefs were 4-3 with the same Oline.

I just don't think that a backup RB, a blocking TE, and a Safety will ever grow to the potential value that Allen already had for this team.

yeah Jared Allen was a diamond in rough and a game changer, Franchise changer?, water under bridge now. Let's see how he handles NFC.....

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by blueballs

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[Buehler445]

What a load of ass for a draft class. Damn!

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by StcChief

yeah Jared Allen was a diamond in rough and a game changer, Franchise changer?, water under bridge now. Let's see how he handles NFC.....

He was as close as a Franchise changer we've had since DT.

I know we can't do anything about it now. I just think overall it was a dumb move.

I understand we are getting younger to get better, but IMO you don't trade your best young player to do that. Allen was only 26.

Him and Dorsey would bring a 4 man pass rush that very few teams in this league can do.

And Tommy Harris is a FA next season ( now I am just dreaming)

Allen, Dorsey, Harris, Hali - OMG best DLine in NFL folks. IF that didn't send us to top 3 defense in NFL the whole coaching staff should get fired.

[HolmeZz]

In fairness to PoM, he didn't say they'd be franchise changers in the positive sense.

[Dylan]

DE Justin Tuck

RB Brandon Jacobs

[Fish]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

He was as close as a Franchise changer we've had since DT.

I know we can't do anything about it now. I just think overall it was a dumb move.

I understand we are getting younger to get better, but IMO you don't trade your best young player to do that. Allen was only 26.

Him and Dorsey would bring a 4 man pass rush that very few teams in this league can do.

And Tommy Harris is a FA next season ( now I am just dreaming)

Allen, Dorsey, Harris, Hali - OMG best DLine in NFL folks. IF that didn't send us to top 3 defense in NFL the whole coaching staff should get fired.

Jared Allen franchise changer?? How so? At least he hasn't shown it so far in his career....

I think some people have become so enamored with JA's sack number last season, that they have completely forgotten that he wasn't even the sack leader on his own team the previous year. Or the fact that even when he lead the league in sacks last year, none of them came in the 4th quarter where it was likely needed most. Only 1 came in the second half...

Sorry, those are not "franchise changing" numbers.... he got after it, but I don't remember too many games he singlehandedly changed. I do remember a few last year that he completely disappeared in.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

He was as close as a Franchise changer we've had since DT.

I know we can't do anything about it now. I just think overall it was a dumb move.

I understand we are getting younger to get better, but IMO you don't trade your best young player to do that. Allen was only 26.

Him and Dorsey would bring a 4 man pass rush that very few teams in this league can do.

And Tommy Harris is a FA next season ( now I am just dreaming)

Allen, Dorsey, Harris, Hali - OMG best DLine in NFL folks. IF that didn't send us to top 3 defense in NFL the whole coaching staff should get fired.

Because the Bears won't franchise Tommie Harris if they don't ink him to a long term deal

[blueballs]

Jaguars | Team waives Thorpe(KC 2005)
Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:29:30 -0700

Vic Ketchman, of Jaguars.com, reports the Jacksonville Jaguars waived WR Craphonso Thorpe.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by blueballs

Jaguars | Team waives Thorpe(KC 2005)
Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:29:30 -0700

Vic Ketchman, of Jaguars.com, reports the Jacksonville Jaguars waived WR Craphonso Thorpe.

Interesting, I thought he was still with the Colts.

[Buck]

DeMarcus Ware would be the #1 over Merriman? I doubt it.

Ware was #11, Merriman was #12.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

DeMarcus Ware would be the #1 over Merriman? I doubt it.

Ware was #11, Merriman was #12.

It's a wash.

[kc rush]

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

Yeah, that Erasmus James guy is solid!

I thought that it was Erasmus Jones? (Athanism)

[SBK]

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding

DeMarcus Ware would be the #1 over Merriman? I doubt it.

Ware was #11, Merriman was #12.

Does Ware do roids too? I'd go with the guy that doesn't cheat if it was up to me.