Chiefs Gretz: Chiefs LBs suck - Page 2

**RealSNR** · 08-21-2008, 01:29 PM

Check out his blob blog update for today:

If there was one position where the Chiefs may be active on the waiver wire the day after the final NFL cutdown, it will be at linebacker. In his first two seasons with the Chiefs, Herm Edwards has kept seven linebackers. Right now it’s tough to find seven backers who have performed well enough in this pre-season to deserve a roster spot.

Count on Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams and Pat Thomas to be there as the Chiefs starters. Williams will not play over the rest of the pre-season because of a broken bone in his hand, but the Chiefs expect him to be ready to play in the season opener.

Also count in veteran Donnie Edwards who continues to rehab his hamstring pull and should be back on the practice field next week.

That’s four; it’s a struggle to find two or three more. Among the remaining LBs, rookie Wes Dacus has the best shot at making the final 53. He’s running fifth now, moving up to the starting group in Wednesday’s practice when Williams could not go with a finger injury. Dacus may get the start this Saturday against Miami.

Oliver Hoyte, LeRue Rumph and Steve Octavien have not been consistent enough in the pre-season to warrant a spot on the final roster. Rumph and/or Octavien could end up on the practice squad. E.J. Kuale has performed primarily in the kicking game.

And that leaves veteran Napoleon Harris. This will be an interesting call for the decision makers. Harris was a disappointment last year and he lost his starting job at middle linebacker early in training camp. Since then he’s been battling a knee injury. He would provide an experienced backup, but he would not be much help on special teams and the backup linebackers have to contribute in the kicking game. If he were not an unrestricted free agent signed last year, there’s no way he would make the team.

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If we were all about a youth movement, shouldn't we have gone out and got some young, talented, but inexperienced guys instead of signing turds leftover from the draft?

ILChief · 08-21-2008, 01:57 PM

good thing we let Mitchell and Fujita walk.

Deberg_1990 · 08-21-2008, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Nothing will change with this team until they do a full out overall major super house cleaning. The culture at One Arrowhead Drive is a losing one, and that needs to be changed. That can only be done with new blood; a new direction.

Maybe the smartest post ive ever seen on here.

RustShack · 08-21-2008, 02:03 PM

Harris will make the roster and be starting again when its all said and done...

FAX · 08-21-2008, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Nothing will change with this team until they do a full out overall major super house cleaning. The culture at One Arrowhead Drive is a losing one, and that needs to be changed. That can only be done with new blood; a new direction.

Well said, Mr. Vanilla Thunder. It begins and ends with Clarkie. At this point, our problems are systemic. This linebacker situation is just another symptom of Peterson's disease. The franchise is dysfunctional. We fire guys who are better than the guys we're starting now and pick up new guys who can't even make the team when the starting guys suck worse than the guys we had before. It's insane.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-21-2008, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Maybe the smartest post ive ever seen on here.

It's so true though. With all due respect to the Hunts, what the **** kind of owner allows a GM to stay with his team for 19 years with no real success, but ticket sales? The NFL is both about winning Super Bowls, and business, but it's obvious to the people that possess common sense that it's more about business as far as the Chiefs go.

You keep your tickets, you keep buying merchandise...then the status quo remains status quo.

The only way for fans to get their voice in is to not buy tickets, not buy merchandise. But that will not ever be the case. We are in football hell because we love our team so much that we won't ever say no to a friend that says, "hey man, I got an extra ticket, you wanna go? 80 bucks." Or say no to that new hat or jersey that your favorite player possesses when you go to the mall.

We really are in hell. Most of the teams are though, except for the usuals, because they know how to draft, how to be selective with free agents, etc. They have the right people running the show. We, obviously, don't.

And until they show different, the fans have the right to not believe in what Herm is trying to do, until they show it on the field.

It's the Show Me State, bitches. Show us.

sorry for the rant

Deberg_1990 · 08-21-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

It's so true though. With all due respect to the Hunts, what the **** kind of owner allows a GM to stay with his team for 19 years with no real success, but ticket sales? The NFL is both about winning Super Bowls, and business, but it's obvious to the people that possess common sense that it's more about business as far as the Chiefs go.

You keep your tickets, you keep buying merchandise...then the status quo remains status quo.

The only way for fans to get their voice in is to not buy tickets, not buy merchandise. But that will not ever be the case. We are in football hell because we love our team so much that we won't ever say no to a friend that says, "hey man, I got an extra ticket, you wanna go? 80 bucks." Or say no to that new hat or jersey that your favorite player possesses when you go to the mall.

We really are in hell. Most of the teams are though, except for the usuals, because they know how to draft, how to be selective with free agents, etc. They have the right people running the show. We, obviously, don't.

And until they show different, the fans have the right to not believe in what Herm is trying to do, until they show it on the field.

It's the Show Me State, bitches. Show us.

sorry for the rant

No need to be sorry. I agree 100%

I just hope Clark wakes up soon. Chiefs fans will always be Chiefs fans. Of course they will buy the tickets and gear. It doesnt matter who the GM is. So why do the Hunts continue to hold on to this fossil?

Coogs · 08-21-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

We fire guys who are better than the guys we're starting now and pick up new guys who can't even make the team when the starting guys suck worse than the guys we had before. It's insane.

FAX

Who was the DC who wanted all of these changes made?

FAX · 08-21-2008, 02:18 PM

Clarkie said all the right things last off-season. The problem is that he seems to be backing off his expectation that we compete for a playoff spot this year. I'm certain that modification in his position is due to reports from marketing that ticket sales are improving.

Mr. Vanilla Thunder is right. From top to bottom, this organization seems to have been more concerned about the success of the "business" than the success of the "team". I don't really understand that. It seems to me that, if you're fielding a playoff caliber team year after year, the business would naturally thrive.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-21-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

No need to be sorry. I agree 100%

I just hope Clark wakes up soon. Chiefs fans will always be Chiefs fans. Of course they will buy the tickets and gear. It doesnt matter who the GM is. So why do the Hunts continue to hold on this fossil?

IMO, they hold onto Carl because he is a good business man, and he did bring the Chiefs back from the dead when he was hired in 89 and brought Marty in. Carl should've resigned with Marty in 98, then I don't think fans would be too hard on Carl or the Hunts.

Marty knew his time was up, I hated him as a coach, but at least he knew it was time to go. Carl is too comfy where he's at.

StcChief · 08-21-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Harris will make the roster and be starting again when its all said and done...

maybe roster hopefully not starting

FAX · 08-21-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Who was the DC who wanted all of these changes made?

Point, Mr. Coogs. Was it our resident mad German who was responsible for canning Fujita, though? Or, was it Robinson? I can't remember. Nevertheless, if our defense suffers this year, it may well be the last we'll see of Guntheriffic.

FAX

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-21-2008, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

Clarkie said all the right things last off-season. The problem is that he seems to be backing off his expectation that we compete for a playoff spot this year. I'm certain that modification in his position is due to reports from marketing that ticket sales are improving.

Mr. Vanilla Thunder is right. From top to bottom, this organization seems to have been more concerned about the success of the "business" than the success of the "team". I don't really understand that. It seems to me that, if you're fielding a playoff caliber team year after year, the business would naturally thrive.

FAX

I know. Doe's Clark think the Patriots are just "getting by" with their constant Super Bowl appearances lmao!!!

You win, you get more pub, more money, everything.

The Chiefs are good at marketing and getting their fans to the games, but they are not good at putting a consistent winner on the field.

**RealSNR** · 08-21-2008, 02:23 PM

Okay, geniouses out there who know what the problem is. Tell me what we do RIGHT NOW to fix the situation.

We've got unplayable LBs backing up a starting unit that contains one pretty decent player and two other "meh".

What do we do?

Coogs · 08-21-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Point, Mr. Coogs. Was it our resident mad German who was responsible for canning Fujita, though? Or, was it Robinson? I can't remember. Nevertheless, if our defense suffers this year, it may well be the last we'll see of Guntheriffic.

FAX

He went to the Cowboys in 2005. That would make it under Guns watch. My guess is that is when Bell came in as well.

Sure-Oz · 08-21-2008, 02:27 PM

Scanlon not on the roster?

08-21-2008, 01:29 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1344792	Gretz: Chiefs LBs suck Check out his blob blog update for today: If there was one position where the Chiefs may be active on the waiver wire the day after the final NFL cutdown, it will be at linebacker. In his first two seasons with the Chiefs, Herm Edwards has kept seven linebackers. Right now it’s tough to find seven backers who have performed well enough in this pre-season to deserve a roster spot. Count on Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams and Pat Thomas to be there as the Chiefs starters. Williams will not play over the rest of the pre-season because of a broken bone in his hand, but the Chiefs expect him to be ready to play in the season opener. Also count in veteran Donnie Edwards who continues to rehab his hamstring pull and should be back on the practice field next week. That’s four; it’s a struggle to find two or three more. Among the remaining LBs, rookie Wes Dacus has the best shot at making the final 53. He’s running fifth now, moving up to the starting group in Wednesday’s practice when Williams could not go with a finger injury. Dacus may get the start this Saturday against Miami. Oliver Hoyte, LeRue Rumph and Steve Octavien have not been consistent enough in the pre-season to warrant a spot on the final roster. Rumph and/or Octavien could end up on the practice squad. E.J. Kuale has performed primarily in the kicking game. And that leaves veteran Napoleon Harris. This will be an interesting call for the decision makers. Harris was a disappointment last year and he lost his starting job at middle linebacker early in training camp. Since then he’s been battling a knee injury. He would provide an experienced backup, but he would not be much help on special teams and the backup linebackers have to contribute in the kicking game. If he were not an unrestricted free agent signed last year, there’s no way he would make the team. ========================================== If we were all about a youth movement, shouldn't we have gone out and got some young, talented, but inexperienced guys instead of signing turds leftover from the draft?
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FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	Clarkie said all the right things last off-season. The problem is that he seems to be backing off his expectation that we compete for a playoff spot this year. I'm certain that modification in his position is due to reports from marketing that ticket sales are improving. Mr. Vanilla Thunder is right. From top to bottom, this organization seems to have been more concerned about the success of the "business" than the success of the "team". I don't really understand that. It seems to me that, if you're fielding a playoff caliber team year after year, the business would naturally thrive. FAX
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1344792	Okay, geniouses out there who know what the problem is. Tell me what we do RIGHT NOW to fix the situation. We've got unplayable LBs backing up a starting unit that contains one pretty decent player and two other "meh". What do we do?
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