Chiefs Gretz: Chiefs LBs suck - Page 3

**RealSNR** · 08-21-2008, 01:29 PM

Check out his blob blog update for today:

If there was one position where the Chiefs may be active on the waiver wire the day after the final NFL cutdown, it will be at linebacker. In his first two seasons with the Chiefs, Herm Edwards has kept seven linebackers. Right now it’s tough to find seven backers who have performed well enough in this pre-season to deserve a roster spot.

Count on Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams and Pat Thomas to be there as the Chiefs starters. Williams will not play over the rest of the pre-season because of a broken bone in his hand, but the Chiefs expect him to be ready to play in the season opener.

Also count in veteran Donnie Edwards who continues to rehab his hamstring pull and should be back on the practice field next week.

That’s four; it’s a struggle to find two or three more. Among the remaining LBs, rookie Wes Dacus has the best shot at making the final 53. He’s running fifth now, moving up to the starting group in Wednesday’s practice when Williams could not go with a finger injury. Dacus may get the start this Saturday against Miami.

Oliver Hoyte, LeRue Rumph and Steve Octavien have not been consistent enough in the pre-season to warrant a spot on the final roster. Rumph and/or Octavien could end up on the practice squad. E.J. Kuale has performed primarily in the kicking game.

And that leaves veteran Napoleon Harris. This will be an interesting call for the decision makers. Harris was a disappointment last year and he lost his starting job at middle linebacker early in training camp. Since then he’s been battling a knee injury. He would provide an experienced backup, but he would not be much help on special teams and the backup linebackers have to contribute in the kicking game. If he were not an unrestricted free agent signed last year, there’s no way he would make the team.

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If we were all about a youth movement, shouldn't we have gone out and got some young, talented, but inexperienced guys instead of signing turds leftover from the draft?

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-21-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Okay, geniouses out there who know what the problem is. Tell me what we do RIGHT NOW to fix the situation.

We've got unplayable LBs backing up a starting unit that contains one pretty decent player and two other "meh".

What do we do?

I would go to the waiver wire, as Gretz said in his blog, not sure if they'll make a move. You're rebuilding, yes, but you want to have good young players to deal with geez!! haha

Deberg_1990 · 08-21-2008, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Okay, geniouses out there who know what the problem is. Tell me what we do RIGHT NOW to fix the situation.

We've got unplayable LBs backing up a starting unit that contains one pretty decent player and two other "meh".

What do we do?

Short term fix: Wait to see who gets cut next week.

Long term: Sack Carl Peterson as soon as possible.

FAX · 08-21-2008, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Okay, geniouses out there who know what the problem is. Tell me what we do RIGHT NOW to fix the situation.

We've got unplayable LBs backing up a starting unit that contains one pretty decent player and two other "meh".

What do we do?

Good question, Mr. SNR. What can we do? If there are no solid LBs available through waivers this year, we have to watch Herm try to make chicken salad all year. Then, we have to draft LBs like there's no tomorrow and wait two more years for them to develop.

Not to beat an expired horse that is no more and has passed on to the great pasture in the sky where the grass is always green, the water blue, and the fillies cute but kinda skanky, but this comes back to whether or not Herm is the phenomenal judge of talent that lots of peeps make him out to be. Somebody, in addition to Guntheriffic, must have thought that these guys could play.

FAX

**Rausch** · 08-21-2008, 02:32 PM

Bad News : Our LB's are playing like $3it, and likely suck as a unit.

Good News : we know it BEFORE the season, we ADMIT it, and we aren't running around powdering bottoms and changing diapers.

"Thanks for trying. I understand, but you're terrible. Cheers."

Chiefnj2 · 08-21-2008, 02:50 PM

Waivers and practice squad designees.

I thought a famous person once said that you don't take LB's in the first round because they are so easy to find in the middle rounds.

Nightfyre · 08-21-2008, 02:52 PM

Anyone know if Boldin can play LB?

**Buehler445** · 08-21-2008, 03:02 PM

I thought this was a good article by Gretz. It wasn't oozing with propaganda. That bieng said, ****! I had hoped Octavien would come around and we'd have some solid depth we could develop.

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FAX · 08-21-2008, 03:19 PM

Wait just a ding dong dippity dang minute, men. We're talking about Gretz here. Gretz of "The Chiefs know what they're doing." fame. Gretz the Carl-can-do-no-wrong man. Gretz the excuse-maker supreme.

Maybe we should wait and see how these guys actually perform on the field in a real game before jumping off the bridge of despair into the freezing waters of hopelessness without the life vest of hope or the bungee cord of optimism. I mean, maybe he's full of it again.

FAX

FringeNC · 08-21-2008, 03:35 PM

The annual "Gun is a great DC, BUT he's got to have ....." talk is starting early this year.

Deberg_1990 · 08-21-2008, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC

The annual "Gun is a great DC, BUT he's got to have ....." talk is starting early this year.

Yes, i agree. All Gun has to have is a Superstar Pro Bowl player at these positions to succeed:

LDE
DT
DT
RDE
LOLB
ROLB
MLB
LC
RC
FS
SS

Gun just needs a few more years, please be patient.

Love Carl.....

siberian khatru · 08-21-2008, 04:11 PM

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Count on Derrick Johnson, Demorrio Williams and Pat Thomas to be there as the Chiefs starters.

I think we can only count on Johnson, PERIOD, to do anything.

We have one decent LB. Everybody else sucks.

What a disaster. Dorsey and Tank are going to have to make sure nobody gets past the line of scrimmage.

chiefbowe82 · 08-21-2008, 04:16 PM

i'm a herm fan but every FA he has brought in has been awful

**Rain Man** · 08-21-2008, 04:56 PM

5-1-5 defense. Stuff the running game, and blanket the receivers. Linebackers are superfluous.

ChiefsCountry · 08-21-2008, 05:09 PM

If Morgan could step up, Pollard could make one hell of a Cover 2 linebacker.

**SAUTO** · 08-21-2008, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

If Morgan could step up, Pollard could make one hell of a Cover 2 linebacker.

agreed he's got the size and the speed to do well in that position. just would need to tackle better IMO

08-21-2008, 01:29 PM
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