Poop Even the Democrats are scared they are going to get cut-blocked at Invesco.

JimNasium · 08-27-2008, 08:59 PM

I wonder if there will be any Vaseline involved?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12918.html

Dems fear Invesco effect
By CHARLES MAHTESIAN | 8/27/08 10:48 PM EST Updated: 8/27/08 10:48 PM EST

DENVER - Senior Democratic officials are expressing serious concerns about the political risks posed by Barack Obama’s acceptance speech at Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium Thursday evening.

From the elaborate stagecraft to the teeming crowd of 80,000 cheering partisans, the vagaries of the weather to the unpredictable audience reaction, the optics surrounding the stadium event have heightened worries that the Obama campaign is engaging in a high-risk endeavor in an uncontrollable environment.

A common concern: that the stadium appearance plays against Obama’s convention goal of lowering his star wattage and connecting with average Americans and that it gives Republicans a chance to drive home their message that the Democratic nominee is a narcissistic celebrity candidate.

“We already know he is a rock star, we already know he can bring 85,000 people together in a stadium. He has done it multiple times. He needs to talk to people who haven’t made up their minds yet,” said Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen.

“It’s likely that the campaign would do it differently if it had to do it again because the decision was made before the European trip,” said a senior Democratic elected officeholder who has worked closely with the Obama campaign. The GOP narrative of Obama as celebrity took root during that trip, where the Illinois senator played to large crowds of adoring Europeans.

Obama campaign officials acknowledged the apprehension Wednesday.

“I have heard some of the concerns and criticism that it’s such a big venue,” said a senior Obama campaign aide. “It’s no surprise that people could be a little nervous. We’re trying to do something new.”

Another senior Obama aide noted Tuesday there were only two options for what the campaign wanted to accomplish — either do it in the convention hall, in front of the delegates, or somewhere else. “A diner’s not an option,” the aide said.

The campaign noted that, aside from the speech itself, it's designed to be “a working event” that enables attendees to phone bank and reach out to potential voters through a variety of online tools. Holding the speech in a venue that holds 80,000 people also allows tens of thousands of Colorado residents to attend and participate — no small consideration since Colorado is a battleground state where Obama and McCain are neck and neck in the polls.

“Winning Colorado is a very important component,” said the Obama aide.

But the Invesco Field speech, with its massive crowd and the celebrity-style imagery it could evoke, is already being teed up by Republicans eager to hammer home the celebrity theme.

The McCain campaign Wednesday released a memo mockingly titled, “Proper Attire for the Temple of Obama (The Barackopolis),” a reference to the classical stage design in place for his speech. The campaign is already prepared to pull the trigger on ads spun out of the Invesco Field event, perhaps rolling out ads similar to the notorious spot featuring Paris Hilton and Britney Spears.

“We’ll put it in play against him,” said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.

Some Democrats insist the GOP approach will backfire. Rep. Ed Markey of Massachusetts said the visuals of tens of thousands of people cheering for Obama can help his campaign by evoking comparisons to John F. Kennedy.

“I think he’s in that league,” Markey said.

Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio also sounded a confident note about the political impact of the forum, asserting it will prove Obama’s message has wide resonance.

“Would you want to play the Super Bowl in a Little League park?” he asked.

Bredesen also acknowledged that while he has concerns, Obama is a virtuoso performer who can’t be underestimated. “I don’t think that’s the right thing, but they are not asking me and they have got a great track record so far,” he said. “I would love to see him out showing a certain kind of humility, being in touch with people who go to breakfast at the Waffle House, sending a message.”

Martin Kady II, Daniel W. Reilly and Kenneth P. Vogel contributed to this story.

**banyon** · 08-27-2008, 09:10 PM

uh, DC?

RibKing67 · 08-27-2008, 09:15 PM

I just wish it were like at halftime of a preseason game when he did this so the republican fans could do a little play on the In-com-plete thing with In-comp-e-tent.

JimNasium · 08-27-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banyon

uh, DC?

Uh, it was a joke thread about Invesco.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-27-2008, 09:29 PM

Will the naked barrel guy be there?

JimNasium · 08-27-2008, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Will the naked barrel guy be there?

No, but Bill Clinton will be if there is vaseline involved.

Rooster · 08-28-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Will the naked barrel guy be there?

Front row.

Garcia Bronco · 08-28-2008, 10:31 AM

cut-blocks are legal...even on hippie democrats.

Thig Lyfe · 08-28-2008, 11:18 AM

THE CELEBRITY THEME IS THE STUPIDEST ATTACK STRATEGY EVER.

"Look! Lots of people like him! ISN'T IT AWFUL?!"

McCain needs to stop pointing out how much more popular Obama is and start, you know, explaining why HE should be president. Idiot.

StcChief · 08-28-2008, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan

Will the naked barrel guy be there?

that would be great. Saw him years ago at Arrowhead.
complete with no shirt, the wood barrel and ORANGE cowboy hat.

JimNasium · 08-28-2008, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SportsRacer

THE CELEBRITY THEME IS THE STUPIDEST ATTACK STRATEGY EVER.

"Look! Lots of people like him! ISN'T IT AWFUL?!"

McCain needs to stop pointing out how much more popular Obama is and start, you know, explaining why HE should be president. Idiot.

Please don't make my joke thread go away.

teedubya · 08-28-2008, 11:53 AM

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**Rain Man** · 08-28-2008, 01:21 PM

I've watched the Igor Olshansky tape a hundred times, and I'm positive that there was a second cut-blocker.

08-27-2008, 08:59 PM
JimNasium Voodoo Chile Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: At the crossroad Casino cash: $-893143	Even the Democrats are scared they are going to get cut-blocked at Invesco. I wonder if there will be any Vaseline involved? http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12918.html Dems fear Invesco effect By CHARLES MAHTESIAN \| 8/27/08 10:48 PM EST Updated: 8/27/08 10:48 PM EST DENVER - Senior Democratic officials are expressing serious concerns about the political risks posed by Barack Obama’s acceptance speech at Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium Thursday evening. From the elaborate stagecraft to the teeming crowd of 80,000 cheering partisans, the vagaries of the weather to the unpredictable audience reaction, the optics surrounding the stadium event have heightened worries that the Obama campaign is engaging in a high-risk endeavor in an uncontrollable environment. A common concern: that the stadium appearance plays against Obama’s convention goal of lowering his star wattage and connecting with average Americans and that it gives Republicans a chance to drive home their message that the Democratic nominee is a narcissistic celebrity candidate. “We already know he is a rock star, we already know he can bring 85,000 people together in a stadium. He has done it multiple times. He needs to talk to people who haven’t made up their minds yet,” said Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen. “It’s likely that the campaign would do it differently if it had to do it again because the decision was made before the European trip,” said a senior Democratic elected officeholder who has worked closely with the Obama campaign. The GOP narrative of Obama as celebrity took root during that trip, where the Illinois senator played to large crowds of adoring Europeans. Obama campaign officials acknowledged the apprehension Wednesday. “I have heard some of the concerns and criticism that it’s such a big venue,” said a senior Obama campaign aide. “It’s no surprise that people could be a little nervous. We’re trying to do something new.” Another senior Obama aide noted Tuesday there were only two options for what the campaign wanted to accomplish — either do it in the convention hall, in front of the delegates, or somewhere else. “A diner’s not an option,” the aide said. The campaign noted that, aside from the speech itself, it's designed to be “a working event” that enables attendees to phone bank and reach out to potential voters through a variety of online tools. Holding the speech in a venue that holds 80,000 people also allows tens of thousands of Colorado residents to attend and participate — no small consideration since Colorado is a battleground state where Obama and McCain are neck and neck in the polls. “Winning Colorado is a very important component,” said the Obama aide. But the Invesco Field speech, with its massive crowd and the celebrity-style imagery it could evoke, is already being teed up by Republicans eager to hammer home the celebrity theme. The McCain campaign Wednesday released a memo mockingly titled, “Proper Attire for the Temple of Obama (The Barackopolis),” a reference to the classical stage design in place for his speech. The campaign is already prepared to pull the trigger on ads spun out of the Invesco Field event, perhaps rolling out ads similar to the notorious spot featuring Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. “We’ll put it in play against him,” said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers. Some Democrats insist the GOP approach will backfire. Rep. Ed Markey of Massachusetts said the visuals of tens of thousands of people cheering for Obama can help his campaign by evoking comparisons to John F. Kennedy. “I think he’s in that league,” Markey said. Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio also sounded a confident note about the political impact of the forum, asserting it will prove Obama’s message has wide resonance. “Would you want to play the Super Bowl in a Little League park?” he asked. Bredesen also acknowledged that while he has concerns, Obama is a virtuoso performer who can’t be underestimated. “I don’t think that’s the right thing, but they are not asking me and they have got a great track record so far,” he said. “I would love to see him out showing a certain kind of humility, being in touch with people who go to breakfast at the Waffle House, sending a message.” Martin Kady II, Daniel W. Reilly and Kenneth P. Vogel contributed to this story.
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