Chiefs Babb: Chiefs notes: Edwards wants Charles to carry bigger load

**Tribal Warfare** · 09-13-2008, 04:15 AM

Chiefs' notes: Edwards wants Charles to carry bigger load

Edwards wants rookie Charles to get more involved

Chiefs rookie running back Jamaal Charles might take on a heavier load, coach Herm Edwards said Friday. With Charles’ speed and the way he played in last week’s loss at New England, Edwards said Charles has to be a factor.

“He needs to touch the ball more,” Edwards said.

Charles, one of the Chiefs’ third-round picks this year, started last week alongside Larry Johnson. Charles averaged 5.6 yards on his five carries and also caught two passes.

Edwards said the Chiefs have to reduce the number of times they go three-and-out, which prevents the team from getting the ball into the hands of playmakers such as Charles. Of the Chiefs’ 11 possessions last week, they went three-and-out four times.

“You’d like to keep it within two, three at the most,” Edwards said. “Then if you get 11 possessions you’ve got to play to get six, seven, eight, 10-play drives and all those guys come and play for you. If you go three-and-out it’s very difficult to get those guys the ball.”

A little older, a little wiser

The Chiefs’ 13 rookies gained at least some experience last week, and Edwards said he wants them to make further gains Sunday against Oakland.

Kansas City started six rookies against New England — the most in a Chiefs opener in the 38 years since the NFL-AFL merger.

“They’ve got a little confidence. They’ve played a game,” Edwards said. “The bottom line is, they’ve got to make the plays.

“Every week you’re going to find out more about these guys. We’ve only played one game, and it’s going to be a learning process all the way through. They’re going to have some ups and down.”

The Chiefs are expected to start at least four rookies Sunday — more if they begin in a nickel defense or a two-back offense as they did against the Patriots.

More talk about penalties

Edwards wants those young Chiefs to avoid being lured into playing what appears to be Oakland’s other game: being whistled for penalties.

The Raiders were penalized 10 times in a blowout loss Monday against Denver. Edwards said Tuesday that he hopes the Chiefs play aggressively, but intelligently.

Edwards said he was happy that the Chiefs were flagged just twice for 15 yards. He said earlier this week that he teaches players that if a team is flagged four times or fewer per game, that team will lead the league in the fewest penalties.

“If you do that, then the football game is never going to get away from you,” Edwards said. “Now we just have to figure out how to win them. If you continue to play like that, you’re going to win your share of football games.”

Injury report

Quarterback Brodie Croyle (shoulder) and linebacker Napoleon Harris (knee) are out for Sunday’s game. Edwards said all other regular players are healthy and will be expected to play.

KCJohnny · 09-13-2008, 04:59 AM

The problem with Charles is picking up blitzers. We love the guy when he has the ball, but the other 90% of the game matters, too. If Huard gets knocked out because Charles fails to pick up another blitz, we'll see LJ in there on all downs or at least Kolby. Charles owes Brodie big time.

DRU · 09-13-2008, 05:11 AM

Since when has LJ shown he can block..??

KCJohnny · 09-13-2008, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DRU

Since when has LJ shown he can block..??

Compared to Charles, LJ looks like Tony Richardson.

DRU · 09-13-2008, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Compared to Charles, LJ looks like Tony Richardson.

Wow, I wouldn't go that far. Also, LJ has just a little more experience in this league than Charles. Give the guy a little time and if he's still making mistakes or getting run over in his 3rd or 4th season then you might have a point.

Besides, if Croyle wasn't a tooth-pick he'd be fine and nobody would be talking about that missed block.

**Bwana** · 09-13-2008, 06:01 AM

Good, we need our best RB with the rock in his hands.

CupidStunt · 09-13-2008, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Compared to Charles, LJ looks like Tony Richardson.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Charles CAN block, and he WILL block, which is more than anyone can say about LJ. He just happened to pick up the wrong guy in his FIRST EVER NFL GAME.

KCJohnny · 09-13-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

You have no idea what you're talking about. Charles CAN block, and he WILL block, which is more than anyone can say about LJ. He just happened to pick up the wrong guy in his FIRST EVER NFL GAME.

I didn't say Charles can't block. I said that LJ is better. I agree, JC should improve.

Charles admits that his "pick[ing] up the wrong guy in his FIRST EVER NFL GAME..." Got Croyle knocked out for several games. That's not good.

**Buehler445** · 09-13-2008, 07:53 AM

I like this, depending on how they get him the ball. If they run him up the middle all the time, I will stab somebody. Charles is small and fast. You can't cram him up the middle all the damn time. They need to do what they can to get him the ball in space, ala Reggie Bush. He's fast as shit, juked Urlacher out of his shorts. He's not going to take on linebackers with his pure strength.

I think he correlates to Bush, minus the ungodly hype. They better look at New Orlean's gameplan for Bush. When NO tried to make him a horse, he got broken. I think we are looking at the same type of player with Charles.

They better not "pound the rock" with Charles. HERM - LISTEN TO CHAN

triple · 09-13-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

The problem with Charles is picking up blitzers. We love the guy when he has the ball, but the other 90% of the game matters, too. If Huard gets knocked out because Charles fails to pick up another blitz, we'll see LJ in there on all downs or at least Kolby. Charles owes Brodie big time.

Since when can Larry Johnson block!?!

KCJohnny · 09-13-2008, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triple

Since when can Larry Johnson block!?!

PPL: Johnson can't block.
Huard goes into fetal position.
WWII was started by Carl Peterson.

LJ can block. Quote me.

CupidStunt · 09-13-2008, 09:13 AM

Even IF he can, the point really is that he DOESN'T.

milkman · 09-13-2008, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

PPL: Johnson can't block.
Huard goes into fetal position.
WWII was started by Carl Peterson.

LJ can block. Quote me.

PPL:KCJohnny is a big mouth dumbass.

Fish · 09-13-2008, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCJohnny

PPL: Johnson can't block.
Huard goes into fetal position.
WWII was started by Carl Peterson.

LJ can block. Quote me.

LJ can block. LJ doesn't want to block. LJ only wants to run with ball. Quote me.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-13-2008, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

PPL:KCJohnny is a big mouth dumbass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish

LJ can block. LJ doesn't want to block. LJ only wants to run with ball. Quote me.

QFT.

09-13-2008, 04:15 AM
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-2797187	Babb: Chiefs notes: Edwards wants Charles to carry bigger load Chiefs' notes: Edwards wants Charles to carry bigger load Edwards wants rookie Charles to get more involved Chiefs rookie running back Jamaal Charles might take on a heavier load, coach Herm Edwards said Friday. With Charles’ speed and the way he played in last week’s loss at New England, Edwards said Charles has to be a factor. “He needs to touch the ball more,” Edwards said. Charles, one of the Chiefs’ third-round picks this year, started last week alongside Larry Johnson. Charles averaged 5.6 yards on his five carries and also caught two passes. Edwards said the Chiefs have to reduce the number of times they go three-and-out, which prevents the team from getting the ball into the hands of playmakers such as Charles. Of the Chiefs’ 11 possessions last week, they went three-and-out four times. “You’d like to keep it within two, three at the most,” Edwards said. “Then if you get 11 possessions you’ve got to play to get six, seven, eight, 10-play drives and all those guys come and play for you. If you go three-and-out it’s very difficult to get those guys the ball.” A little older, a little wiser The Chiefs’ 13 rookies gained at least some experience last week, and Edwards said he wants them to make further gains Sunday against Oakland. Kansas City started six rookies against New England — the most in a Chiefs opener in the 38 years since the NFL-AFL merger. “They’ve got a little confidence. They’ve played a game,” Edwards said. “The bottom line is, they’ve got to make the plays. “Every week you’re going to find out more about these guys. We’ve only played one game, and it’s going to be a learning process all the way through. They’re going to have some ups and down.” The Chiefs are expected to start at least four rookies Sunday — more if they begin in a nickel defense or a two-back offense as they did against the Patriots. More talk about penalties Edwards wants those young Chiefs to avoid being lured into playing what appears to be Oakland’s other game: being whistled for penalties. The Raiders were penalized 10 times in a blowout loss Monday against Denver. Edwards said Tuesday that he hopes the Chiefs play aggressively, but intelligently. Edwards said he was happy that the Chiefs were flagged just twice for 15 yards. He said earlier this week that he teaches players that if a team is flagged four times or fewer per game, that team will lead the league in the fewest penalties. “If you do that, then the football game is never going to get away from you,” Edwards said. “Now we just have to figure out how to win them. If you continue to play like that, you’re going to win your share of football games.” Injury report Quarterback Brodie Croyle (shoulder) and linebacker Napoleon Harris (knee) are out for Sunday’s game. Edwards said all other regular players are healthy and will be expected to play.
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KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	The problem with Charles is picking up blitzers. We love the guy when he has the ball, but the other 90% of the game matters, too. If Huard gets knocked out because Charles fails to pick up another blitz, we'll see LJ in there on all downs or at least Kolby. Charles owes Brodie big time. __________________
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DRU To the Game Join Date: Oct 2003 Casino cash: $6793516	Since when has LJ shown he can block..??
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1395266	I like this, depending on how they get him the ball. If they run him up the middle all the time, I will stab somebody. Charles is small and fast. You can't cram him up the middle all the damn time. They need to do what they can to get him the ball in space, ala Reggie Bush. He's fast as shit, juked Urlacher out of his shorts. He's not going to take on linebackers with his pure strength. I think he correlates to Bush, minus the ungodly hype. They better look at New Orlean's gameplan for Bush. When NO tried to make him a horse, he got broken. I think we are looking at the same type of player with Charles. They better not "pound the rock" with Charles. HERM - LISTEN TO CHAN
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CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $-666668	Even IF he can, the point really is that he DOESN'T.
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