Chiefs Chiefs Blasted in Carolina, 34-0 - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 07:25 PM

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From the opening whistle, the Chiefs didn’t come to play Sunday. The defense was gashed and didn’t make enough plays despite coming up with two turnovers. But when you don’t have a quarterback, can’t rush the passer against two inexperienced tackles and don’t score points, generally you don’t win.

This was a new low for the Chiefs. Not only did they regress from their upset win a week ago against Denver, but based on the 34-0 blanking at the hands of the Carolina Panthers, Kansas City is back on track for another losing streak.

The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington and cut Damon Huard. They’d likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

The Chiefs’ biggest debacle so far hasn’t been losing to the Patriots, Raiders, Falcons or Panthers. It was letting Pennington get away. He wanted to come to Kansas City, but the Chiefs didn’t pull the trigger. Whether it was a coaching thing or a management thing, the bottom line is this season could have been different if Pennington was a Chief and not a Dolphin.

Pennington has taken a not-so-talented bunch of offensive players in Miami and put them in contention for the AFC East. If he were in Kansas City, the Chiefs would have beaten the Patriots and Raiders, along with Denver, and be 3-2.

Instead, Sunday we watched Huard, who appeared to be a quarterback who wasn’t ready or able to play the game. He was tentative, didn’t set his feet at times and threw several passes either up for grabs or towards Panthers defenders. From interceptions, to batted balls, to being hit, this was Huard’s worst game of the season and puts the question of who starts from here on out to rest.

Brodie Croyle is the starter for the remainder of 2008. Unless he’s in the hospital or out for the season with an injury, he’s the guy. Let’s see what he can finally do in a Chiefs uniform with a better offensive line and more options at running back.

This bye week should be critical for the Chiefs. Changes need to be made in the starting lineup. DaJuan Morgan should take Bernard Pollard’s spot at safety, and Herb Taylor should take over for Damion McIntosh at right tackle.

Running back Kolby Smith also deserves more carries. Sorry, but $45 million running backs who get out-rushed by third-round draft picks (Jamaal Charles – 18 yards) and backup quarterbacks (Tyler Thigpen – 16 yards) should give someone else a chance. Wade Smith could also replace Adrian Jones at guard. He’s been a valuable addition on special teams but deserves a shot at a starting spot.

Last but not least, Eric Price should be promoted to quarterbacks coach for Croyle’s sake the rest of the season. The Dick Curl experiment is over. He has to take some of the blame for the lack of preparedness his quarterbacks have shown at the beginning, middle and end of games this season. Price previously worked with Croyle at Alabama, was a brilliant offensive coordinator in college and has more to offer the Chiefs than coaching wide receivers.

Five to Remember -

DC Gunther Cunningham - His players either aren’t listening or he’s not reaching them. Cunningham will eat, sleep and live at Arrowhead the next two weeks because he will fix the defensive problems, but he needs to make some changes either in the class room, the practice field or on game days. I didn’t much care for the lack of aggression from the defense when the Panthers had any kind of long third down.

OC Chan Gailey - Sunday he seemed to have the same disease we saw the first two games of the season – an uncreative offensive game plan that was far too predictable. Gailey’s quarterback and running back didn’t do him any favors, but how about a reverse, flanker pass, pitch play, or anything? Gailey should be more aggressive when Croyle returns. He needs to open up the playbook. It can’t hurt at this point.

HC Herm Edwards - I don’t often get critical with the Head Coach, but today he should have pulled Huard sooner. He knows he’s not the answer and despite the win a week ago, Edwards should have just struggled along with Tyler Thigpen the last two weeks. Wins are important, but Edwards has job security.

QB Damon Huard - There were rumblings all week that he was hurt and those appear to be true based on today’s game. Huard was not ready to play and based on the fact he didn’t really practice much until Thursday, perhaps the rumored injuries were more severe than disclosed. Huard’s a class guy all the way but right now looks like a player who might be done.

chiefs1111 · 10-05-2008, 07:50 PM

Blasted doesn't begin to describe what happened to the chiefs

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

How much merit do you see in this bullshit?

Is Nick writing drunk?

I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

Coach · 10-05-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

You have ****ing lost it Benedict.

**banyon** · 10-05-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

It's Nick's opinion, not mine.

I don't see it as totally without merit.

SHOCKER.

oaklandhater · 10-05-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

http://kan.scout.com/2/797935.html

From the opening whistle, the Chiefs didn’t come to play Sunday. The defense was gashed and didn’t make enough plays despite coming up with two turnovers. But when you don’t have a quarterback, can’t rush the passer against two inexperienced tackles and don’t score points, generally you don’t win.

This was a new low for the Chiefs. Not only did they regress from their upset win a week ago against Denver, but based on the 34-0 blanking at the hands of the Carolina Panthers, Kansas City is back on track for another losing streak.

The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington and cut Damon Huard. They’d likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

The Chiefs’ biggest debacle so far hasn’t been losing to the Patriots, Raiders, Falcons or Panthers. It was letting Pennington get away. He wanted to come to Kansas City, but the Chiefs didn’t pull the trigger. Whether it was a coaching thing or a management thing, the bottom line is this season could have been different if Pennington was a Chief and not a Dolphin.

Pennington has taken a not-so-talented bunch of offensive players in Miami and put them in contention for the AFC East. If he were in Kansas City, the Chiefs would have beaten the Patriots and Raiders, along with Denver, and be 3-2.

Instead, Sunday we watched Huard, who appeared to be a quarterback who wasn’t ready or able to play the game. He was tentative, didn’t set his feet at times and threw several passes either up for grabs or towards Panthers defenders. From interceptions, to batted balls, to being hit, this was Huard’s worst game of the season and puts the question of who starts from here on out to rest.

Brodie Croyle is the starter for the remainder of 2008. Unless he’s in the hospital or out for the season with an injury, he’s the guy. Let’s see what he can finally do in a Chiefs uniform with a better offensive line and more options at running back.

This bye week should be critical for the Chiefs. Changes need to be made in the starting lineup. DaJuan Morgan should take Bernard Pollard’s spot at safety, and Herb Taylor should take over for Damion McIntosh at right tackle.

Running back Kolby Smith also deserves more carries. Sorry, but $45 million running backs who get out-rushed by third-round draft picks (Jamaal Charles – 18 yards) and backup quarterbacks (Tyler Thigpen – 16 yards) should give someone else a chance. Wade Smith could also replace Adrian Jones at guard. He’s been a valuable addition on special teams but deserves a shot at a starting spot.

Last but not least, Eric Price should be promoted to quarterbacks coach for Croyle’s sake the rest of the season. The Dick Curl experiment is over. He has to take some of the blame for the lack of preparedness his quarterbacks have shown at the beginning, middle and end of games this season. Price previously worked with Croyle at Alabama, was a brilliant offensive coordinator in college and has more to offer the Chiefs than coaching wide receivers.

Five to Remember -

DC Gunther Cunningham - His players either aren’t listening or he’s not reaching them. Cunningham will eat, sleep and live at Arrowhead the next two weeks because he will fix the defensive problems, but he needs to make some changes either in the class room, the practice field or on game days. I didn’t much care for the lack of aggression from the defense when the Panthers had any kind of long third down.

OC Chan Gailey - Sunday he seemed to have the same disease we saw the first two games of the season – an uncreative offensive game plan that was far too predictable. Gailey’s quarterback and running back didn’t do him any favors, but how about a reverse, flanker pass, pitch play, or anything? Gailey should be more aggressive when Croyle returns. He needs to open up the playbook. It can’t hurt at this point.

HC Herm Edwards - I don’t often get critical with the Head Coach, but today he should have pulled Huard sooner. He knows he’s not the answer and despite the win a week ago, Edwards should have just struggled along with Tyler Thigpen the last two weeks. Wins are important, but Edwards has job security.

QB Damon Huard - There were rumblings all week that he was hurt and those appear to be true based on today’s game. Huard was not ready to play and based on the fact he didn’t really practice much until Thursday, perhaps the rumored injuries were more severe than disclosed. Huard’s a class guy all the way but right now looks like a player who might be done.

wow now that was a critical artical..

**banyon** · 10-05-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

7-9 here we come Muthaf***s!

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

You have ****ing lost it Benedict.

Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

ClevelandBronco · 10-05-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

I think the Chiefs would have beaten New England and Oakland with Pennington.

And that's why no one should take you seriously.

That's not thinking, kid. That's wishing.

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

And that's why no one should take you seriously.

That's not thinking, kid. That's wishing.

It's completely logical, actually. Did you even watch those games?

We had 81 yards of offense through three quarters of play against Oakland, because Thigpen was BUTT. Pennington would not have come CLOSE to that level of suck.

chiefs1111 · 10-05-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

I think a lot of people would be better compared to Thigpen. The problem with Chad is behind our line,he would probably already be out injured anyways...... When he is healthy,He's not that bad of a qb. Problem is,he can't stay healthy.

FAX · 10-05-2008, 07:59 PM

Five to Remember -

Okay, I know that grammar isn't Nick's strong suit, but counting to the number 5?

FAX

**Bearcat** · 10-05-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

It's Nick's opinion, not mine.

I don't see it as totally without merit.

Whoever wrote it really needs to spend a few more hours on their work... it's not really a new low, because not only did we just come off a 12 game losing streak, we've statistically had a couple of similar to this one since Herm was hired. Worrying about wins and losses with a backup quarterback is ridiculous... we weren't winning more than 4 or 5 games with Croyle, so who gives a crap about our record right now? Gailey obviously isn't the problem, because Herm's hands are all over the gameplan, which hasn't changed since he's been here. It's Gailey's offense within Herm's shell, which will never work. Herm's the problem.

One could argue about Gailey and what not, but basing an article on a completely false statement that Pennington has "taken the Dolphins and put them in contention" is just....

Coach · 10-05-2008, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

IT would have not mattered because the football team is coached by Herman Edwards, who for whatever reasons, coach a 1960 style of a football brand aganist the 2000 style of a football brand.

Mecca and I, along with several other high ranking members of the board has harped on this issue many times. Unless Herm is going to OPEN up the playbook, and let his OC do the playcalling, it's just going to be what just happened last year.

**banyon** · 10-05-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan

Why wouldn't we have?

The New England game is obvious. Against Oakland our defense was kicking ass until they got gassed. Pennington, running game or not, would have put up a couple scores. Pennington > Thigpen the shithead.

You thought Huard was great against the Pats:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...=190880&page=5

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

IT would have not mattered because the football team is coached by Herman Edwards, who for whatever reasons, coach a 1960 style of a football brand aganist the 2000 style of a football brand.

Mecca and I, along with several other high ranking members of the board has harped on this issue many times. Unless Herm is going to OPEN up the playbook, and let his OC do the playcalling, it's just going to be what just happened last year.

I don't think it's Herm. You might want to ask Tech fans about Gailey's playcalling. There's a reason Herm hired him...

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