Chiefs Chiefs Blasted in Carolina, 34-0 - Page 4

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 07:25 PM

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From the opening whistle, the Chiefs didn’t come to play Sunday. The defense was gashed and didn’t make enough plays despite coming up with two turnovers. But when you don’t have a quarterback, can’t rush the passer against two inexperienced tackles and don’t score points, generally you don’t win.

This was a new low for the Chiefs. Not only did they regress from their upset win a week ago against Denver, but based on the 34-0 blanking at the hands of the Carolina Panthers, Kansas City is back on track for another losing streak.

The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington and cut Damon Huard. They’d likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point.

The Chiefs’ biggest debacle so far hasn’t been losing to the Patriots, Raiders, Falcons or Panthers. It was letting Pennington get away. He wanted to come to Kansas City, but the Chiefs didn’t pull the trigger. Whether it was a coaching thing or a management thing, the bottom line is this season could have been different if Pennington was a Chief and not a Dolphin.

Pennington has taken a not-so-talented bunch of offensive players in Miami and put them in contention for the AFC East. If he were in Kansas City, the Chiefs would have beaten the Patriots and Raiders, along with Denver, and be 3-2.

Instead, Sunday we watched Huard, who appeared to be a quarterback who wasn’t ready or able to play the game. He was tentative, didn’t set his feet at times and threw several passes either up for grabs or towards Panthers defenders. From interceptions, to batted balls, to being hit, this was Huard’s worst game of the season and puts the question of who starts from here on out to rest.

Brodie Croyle is the starter for the remainder of 2008. Unless he’s in the hospital or out for the season with an injury, he’s the guy. Let’s see what he can finally do in a Chiefs uniform with a better offensive line and more options at running back.

This bye week should be critical for the Chiefs. Changes need to be made in the starting lineup. DaJuan Morgan should take Bernard Pollard’s spot at safety, and Herb Taylor should take over for Damion McIntosh at right tackle.

Running back Kolby Smith also deserves more carries. Sorry, but $45 million running backs who get out-rushed by third-round draft picks (Jamaal Charles – 18 yards) and backup quarterbacks (Tyler Thigpen – 16 yards) should give someone else a chance. Wade Smith could also replace Adrian Jones at guard. He’s been a valuable addition on special teams but deserves a shot at a starting spot.

Last but not least, Eric Price should be promoted to quarterbacks coach for Croyle’s sake the rest of the season. The Dick Curl experiment is over. He has to take some of the blame for the lack of preparedness his quarterbacks have shown at the beginning, middle and end of games this season. Price previously worked with Croyle at Alabama, was a brilliant offensive coordinator in college and has more to offer the Chiefs than coaching wide receivers.

Five to Remember -

DC Gunther Cunningham - His players either aren’t listening or he’s not reaching them. Cunningham will eat, sleep and live at Arrowhead the next two weeks because he will fix the defensive problems, but he needs to make some changes either in the class room, the practice field or on game days. I didn’t much care for the lack of aggression from the defense when the Panthers had any kind of long third down.

OC Chan Gailey - Sunday he seemed to have the same disease we saw the first two games of the season – an uncreative offensive game plan that was far too predictable. Gailey’s quarterback and running back didn’t do him any favors, but how about a reverse, flanker pass, pitch play, or anything? Gailey should be more aggressive when Croyle returns. He needs to open up the playbook. It can’t hurt at this point.

HC Herm Edwards - I don’t often get critical with the Head Coach, but today he should have pulled Huard sooner. He knows he’s not the answer and despite the win a week ago, Edwards should have just struggled along with Tyler Thigpen the last two weeks. Wins are important, but Edwards has job security.

QB Damon Huard - There were rumblings all week that he was hurt and those appear to be true based on today’s game. Huard was not ready to play and based on the fact he didn’t really practice much until Thursday, perhaps the rumored injuries were more severe than disclosed. Huard’s a class guy all the way but right now looks like a player who might be done.

Nightfyre · 10-05-2008, 08:11 PM

A) You really should be attributing these articles to their author in the post
B) Chad Pennington would have been destroyed by now, not to mention speculating on how he would change the season is reeruned.
C) LJ still sucked ass.

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

I imagine I'll keep calling you out on your bullshit. That's my job here.

Good. It's entertaining. I enjoy the fact that you hate me so much. Are you just seething with fury over my posts?

triple · 10-05-2008, 08:14 PM

Good old Miami. Good old Chad.

Miami opened the season losing at home to the Jets, down 20-7 until a trash time touchdown. Pennington threw 43 times to get those 251 hard-won yards, an interception, and two TDs, both to tight ends, which just proves the game is so easy to Chad Pennington he doesn't even bother with the receivers.

Pennington followed up this magnum opus by leading his team to a 21-point drubbing by league superpower Arizona. Pennington played admirably, completing 10 passes for over one hundred yards. The performance is even more impressive when you consider three of those receptions were for about 20 yards. Pennington was pulled in favor of Chad Henne once the team went down 31-3.

Pennington did pretty well in week three, throwing for more than two hundred yards. Ronnie Brown's 5 touchdowns surely were set up by the Patriots fear of Pennington's rocket arm. Pennington leads his team to win the day against the Patriots with brilliant direct snaps to the running back. This seemed to be the key to a Pennington-led team pounding the defending AFC champions.

Following the bye week Broadway Chad lead his team to a circus-like 17 point outburst against San Diego. Once again the opponent was so intimidated by Pennington that Miami scored one of those touchdowns on a direct snap. Still, under his steady leadership the Dolphins were able to put on an offensive display, scoring two touchdowns in the same game. Pennington must have had a psychological effect on San Diego's offense, causing their third down percentage to decline to 25%. Pennington also held LaDanian Tomlinson to 35 yards on 12 carries.

Clearly, Chad Pennington has made this league his b*tch, and is hate-fucking it just to make his other b*tches jealous.

**Skip Towne** · 10-05-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

IT would have not mattered because the football team is coached by Herman Edwards, who for whatever reasons, coach a 1960 style of a football brand aganist the 2000 style of a football brand.

Mecca and I, along with several other high ranking members of the board has harped on this issue many times. Unless Herm is going to OPEN up the playbook, and let his OC do the playcalling, it's just going to be what just happened last year.

How exactly did you and Mecca become "high ranking members of the board?"

**Bearcat** · 10-05-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by triple

Good old Miami. Good old Chad.

Miami opened the season losing at home to the Jets, down 20-7 until a trash time touchdown. Pennington threw 43 times to get those 251 hard-won yards, an interception, and two TDs, both to tight ends, which just proves the game is so easy to Chad Pennington he doesn't even bother with the receivers.

Pennington followed up this magnum opus by leading his team to a 21-point drubbing by league superpower Arizona. Pennington played admirably, completing 10 passes for over one hundred yards. The performance is even more impressive when you consider three of those receptions were for about 20 yards. Pennington was pulled in favor of Chad Henne once the team went down 31-3.

Pennington did pretty well in week three, throwing for more than two hundred yards. Ronnie Brown's 5 touchdowns surely were set up by the Patriots fear of Pennington's rocket arm. Pennington leads his team to win the day against the Patriots with brilliant direct snaps to the running back. This seemed to be the key to a Pennington-led team pounding the defending AFC champions.

Following the bye week Broadway Chad lead his team to a circus-like 17 point outburst against San Diego. Once again the opponent was so intimidated by Pennington that Miami scored one of those touchdowns on a direct snap. Still, under his steady leadership the Dolphins were able to put on an offensive display, scoring two touchdowns in the same game. Pennington must have had a psychological effect on San Diego's offense, causing their third down percentage to decline to 25%. Pennington also held LaDanian Tomlinson to 35 yards on 12 carries.

Clearly, Chad Pennington has made this league his b*tch, and is hate-fucking it just to make his other b*tches jealous.

QFT... and your version is more entertaining.

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

-- Pennington has had two decent games, and do you know why?
Game 1: Loss. Pennington -- 250 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 50 yards.
Game 2: Loss. Pennington -- 112 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 72 yards.

Game 3: Win. Pennington -- 226 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 216 yards.
Game 4: Win. Pennington -- 228 yards. Dolphins rushing -- 167 yards.

Come on, man... you can't defend Huard between this game and last week and then write something like this. Pennington would have looked just as bad as Huard today because he would have gotten no protection and had no running game.

The Dolphins are a prime example outside of our current situation (which is another good example) of why it DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOUR QUARTERBACK IS if the players around him don't perform well.

Throw this away and write about how Chad Pennington is in the same situation as Huard and Croyle... and it's as clear as those 4 games above.

TN_Chief · 10-05-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

He doesn't. There are huge differences.

You're ****ing shitting me. You think there are significant differences between our offense under Gailey and our offense under Solari? You're ****ing high. I can't belive you actually attempt to represent yourself as someone that knows anything about football.

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TN_Chief

You're ****ing shitting me. You think there are significant differences between our offense under Gailey and our offense under Solari? You're ****ing high. I can't belive you actually attempt to represent yourself as someone that knows anything about football.

Are you also angry at me?

**Smed1065** · 10-05-2008, 08:23 PM

I see Clayton ignores the questions about the part of the post he left off.

Hum, lets see it was negative about LJ....

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

I see Clayton ignores the questions about the part of the post he left off.

Hum, lets see it was negative about LJ....

I usually don't respond to your posts, because I don't speak your langauge, but I'll respond to this one.

1. I didn't agree with Nick's take whatsoever.
2. I didn't really think it was accurate at all.
3. I thought people here would just laugh at it.

In the end, it got posted anyway, and I get ridiculed. That's OK. It meant someone clicked over to our fabulous website. So, I win either way.

Booyah.

**Bearcat** · 10-05-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

He doesn't. There are huge differences.

Besides trying to run the freakin' option against the Raiders and one drive against Denver, name a few, please. The 3rd/4th quarter drive against the Broncos last week was completely different than what we've been doing the past few years... besides that, it all looks the same to me.

smittysbar · 10-05-2008, 08:26 PM

Clayton why did you leave the LJ part off the article

smittysbar · 10-05-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

Clayton why did you leave the LJ part off the article

Nevermind someone else asked

TN_Chief · 10-05-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Are you also angry at me?

Angry isn't the right word. Annoyed perhaps. You're like a cloud of gnats...annoying but ultimately insignificant.

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

Clayton why did you leave the LJ part off the article

May I be excused from the thread? I wouldn't want to leave without your approval.

ClevelandBronco · 10-05-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Good. It's entertaining. I enjoy the fact that you hate me so much. Are you just seething with fury over my posts?

Oh, sure. I guess.

10-05-2008, 07:25 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $1030478	Chiefs Blasted in Carolina, 34-0 http://kan.scout.com/2/797935.html From the opening whistle, the Chiefs didn’t come to play Sunday. The defense was gashed and didn’t make enough plays despite coming up with two turnovers. But when you don’t have a quarterback, can’t rush the passer against two inexperienced tackles and don’t score points, generally you don’t win. This was a new low for the Chiefs. Not only did they regress from their upset win a week ago against Denver, but based on the 34-0 blanking at the hands of the Carolina Panthers, Kansas City is back on track for another losing streak. The problem could have been avoided months ago if the Chiefs had signed veteran free agent quarterback Chad Pennington and cut Damon Huard. They’d likely be at least 3-2 on the season, maybe in first place at this point. The Chiefs’ biggest debacle so far hasn’t been losing to the Patriots, Raiders, Falcons or Panthers. It was letting Pennington get away. He wanted to come to Kansas City, but the Chiefs didn’t pull the trigger. Whether it was a coaching thing or a management thing, the bottom line is this season could have been different if Pennington was a Chief and not a Dolphin. Pennington has taken a not-so-talented bunch of offensive players in Miami and put them in contention for the AFC East. If he were in Kansas City, the Chiefs would have beaten the Patriots and Raiders, along with Denver, and be 3-2. Instead, Sunday we watched Huard, who appeared to be a quarterback who wasn’t ready or able to play the game. He was tentative, didn’t set his feet at times and threw several passes either up for grabs or towards Panthers defenders. From interceptions, to batted balls, to being hit, this was Huard’s worst game of the season and puts the question of who starts from here on out to rest. Brodie Croyle is the starter for the remainder of 2008. Unless he’s in the hospital or out for the season with an injury, he’s the guy. Let’s see what he can finally do in a Chiefs uniform with a better offensive line and more options at running back. This bye week should be critical for the Chiefs. Changes need to be made in the starting lineup. DaJuan Morgan should take Bernard Pollard’s spot at safety, and Herb Taylor should take over for Damion McIntosh at right tackle. Running back Kolby Smith also deserves more carries. Sorry, but $45 million running backs who get out-rushed by third-round draft picks (Jamaal Charles – 18 yards) and backup quarterbacks (Tyler Thigpen – 16 yards) should give someone else a chance. Wade Smith could also replace Adrian Jones at guard. He’s been a valuable addition on special teams but deserves a shot at a starting spot. Last but not least, Eric Price should be promoted to quarterbacks coach for Croyle’s sake the rest of the season. The Dick Curl experiment is over. He has to take some of the blame for the lack of preparedness his quarterbacks have shown at the beginning, middle and end of games this season. Price previously worked with Croyle at Alabama, was a brilliant offensive coordinator in college and has more to offer the Chiefs than coaching wide receivers. Five to Remember - DC Gunther Cunningham - His players either aren’t listening or he’s not reaching them. Cunningham will eat, sleep and live at Arrowhead the next two weeks because he will fix the defensive problems, but he needs to make some changes either in the class room, the practice field or on game days. I didn’t much care for the lack of aggression from the defense when the Panthers had any kind of long third down. OC Chan Gailey - Sunday he seemed to have the same disease we saw the first two games of the season – an uncreative offensive game plan that was far too predictable. Gailey’s quarterback and running back didn’t do him any favors, but how about a reverse, flanker pass, pitch play, or anything? Gailey should be more aggressive when Croyle returns. He needs to open up the playbook. It can’t hurt at this point. HC Herm Edwards - I don’t often get critical with the Head Coach, but today he should have pulled Huard sooner. He knows he’s not the answer and despite the win a week ago, Edwards should have just struggled along with Tyler Thigpen the last two weeks. Wins are important, but Edwards has job security. QB Damon Huard - There were rumblings all week that he was hurt and those appear to be true based on today’s game. Huard was not ready to play and based on the fact he didn’t really practice much until Thursday, perhaps the rumored injuries were more severe than disclosed. Huard’s a class guy all the way but right now looks like a player who might be done.
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10-05-2008, 08:14 PM	#48
triple Stop saying &quot;This.&quot; Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Good old Miami. Good old Chad. Miami opened the season losing at home to the Jets, down 20-7 until a trash time touchdown. Pennington threw 43 times to get those 251 hard-won yards, an interception, and two TDs, both to tight ends, which just proves the game is so easy to Chad Pennington he doesn't even bother with the receivers. Pennington followed up this magnum opus by leading his team to a 21-point drubbing by league superpower Arizona. Pennington played admirably, completing 10 passes for over one hundred yards. The performance is even more impressive when you consider three of those receptions were for about 20 yards. Pennington was pulled in favor of Chad Henne once the team went down 31-3. Pennington did pretty well in week three, throwing for more than two hundred yards. Ronnie Brown's 5 touchdowns surely were set up by the Patriots fear of Pennington's rocket arm. Pennington leads his team to win the day against the Patriots with brilliant direct snaps to the running back. This seemed to be the key to a Pennington-led team pounding the defending AFC champions. Following the bye week Broadway Chad lead his team to a circus-like 17 point outburst against San Diego. Once again the opponent was so intimidated by Pennington that Miami scored one of those touchdowns on a direct snap. Still, under his steady leadership the Dolphins were able to put on an offensive display, scoring two touchdowns in the same game. Pennington must have had a psychological effect on San Diego's offense, causing their third down percentage to decline to 25%. Pennington also held LaDanian Tomlinson to 35 yards on 12 carries. Clearly, Chad Pennington has made this league his btch, and is hate-fucking it just to make his other btches jealous.
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