Chiefs The problem with Dorsey - Page 3

milkman · 10-29-2008, 10:51 AM

People have become concerned with Glen Dorsey, and fear that he may not be all that was expected.

Whitlock has pointed to his knee injuries as a possible explanation for his lack of production.

Some people have pointed out that he hasn't developed any moves, and others have talked about the fact that he tends to take a step back at the snap.

The biggest problem I see is that he has a tendency to lower his head when he attacks the LOS, and when he does that, the battle is all but lost.

Regardless, all of the technique errors are correctable, and when corrected, he will be a force.

But give him time.

He's a rookie.

It takes time.

StcChief · 10-29-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.

at this point no concern.....

wonder who those sacks were against.... a real database could help alot with these questions.

PhillyChiefFan · 10-29-2008, 11:21 AM

Especially with Sapp, that surprises me.

blueballs · 10-29-2008, 11:21 AM

Faneca would just take away learning snaps
like Favre is

**SAUTO** · 10-29-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

Faneca would just take away learning snaps
like Favre is

from who? jones??

PhillyChiefFan · 10-29-2008, 11:24 AM

How has he done against players that are < Faneca. Does he still get dominated at the line?

talastan · 10-29-2008, 11:24 AM

Dorsey will be incredible IMO once he develops and gets some talent beside, as in an outside pass rushing threat. I think Tank is coming along fine, especially compared to last season. I think the rest of this season we should just watch and we'll see Dorsey develop right before our eyes!

milkman · 10-29-2008, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

from who? jones??

The thought process was that people expected the Chiefs to be more aggressive in the draft in selecting the O-Line position.

Had most known that the only O-Lineman taken in this draft were going to be Albert and Richardson, they would probably have been for a more aggressive approach in free agency.

Chiefnj2 · 10-29-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Glenn Dorsey through 7 games: 18 tackles, 14 solo, 0 sacks

The rest of these guys rookie year, 16 game:

Warren Sapp - 27 tackles, 3 sacks, 1 int
Albert Haynesworth, 30 tackles, 21 solo, 1 sack
Tommie Harris - 43 tackles, 28 solo, 3.5 sacks
Casey Hampton - 22 tackles, 9 solo, 1 sack
Kris Jenkins - 34 tackles, 27 solo, 2 sacks
Marcus Stroud - 25 tackles, 21 solo, 0 sacks

Some guys take off right away (Kevin Williams, John Henderson) but others take some time to develop.

Tackles are such an unreliable indicator. KC is on pace to be the worst run defense in the history of the NFL in terms of ypc. It doesn't matter if he has 100 tackles if they are 6 yards downfield.

**SAUTO** · 10-29-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The thought process was that people expected the Chiefs to be more aggressive in the draft in selecting the O-Line position.

Had most known that the only O-Lineman taken in this draft were going to be Albert and Richardson, they would probably have been for a more aggressive approach in free agency.

awwww i recall people saying faneca was a scrub. but the REAL problem was people expecting carl and herm to do the right thing

beach tribe · 10-29-2008, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

awwww i recall people saying faneca was a scrub. but the REAL problem was people expecting carl and herm to do the right thing

I don't recall anyone calling the guy a scrub. Just that he didn't fit the bill of what we were doing.

**SAUTO** · 10-29-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Tackles are such an unreliable indicator. KC is on pace to be the worst run defense in the history of the NFL in terms of ypc. It doesn't matter if he has 100 tackles if they are 6 yards downfield.

really? a DT with 100 tackles wouldnt mean anything?
No matter where 100 tackles are made by a Dt would be VERY impressive. just means shit is all around him.
Do you actualy think that if he has a better season than all those guys on the list that it wouldnt mean much?
Do you think the LBs should be blamed at all?

Demonpenz · 10-29-2008, 11:32 AM

I dont know how you would get underneth an Olineman's pads to gain leverage without your head going lower, but I assime he you mean he is looking towards the ground

**SAUTO** · 10-29-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

I don't recall anyone calling the guy a scrub. Just that he didn't fit the bill of what we were doing.

yeah they did, maybe not those words but to that effect.

blueballs · 10-29-2008, 11:38 AM

How are the other rookie DTs doing
I don't recall hearing Gholston's name sunday

Chiefnj2 · 10-29-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

really? a DT with 100 tackles wouldnt mean anything?
No matter where 100 tackles are made by a Dt would be VERY impressive. just means shit is all around him.
Do you actualy think that if he has a better season than all those guys on the list that it wouldnt mean much?
Do you think the LBs should be blamed at all?

I'm not sure you can judge a "better" season by tackles. If he finishes with the same # of tackles that Haynesworth had as a rookie, but KC sets the record for worst ypc and teams ran the ball 100 more times against KC, I don't think you could consider him having a better or equal season than Haynesworth.

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milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	The problem with Dorsey People have become concerned with Glen Dorsey, and fear that he may not be all that was expected. Whitlock has pointed to his knee injuries as a possible explanation for his lack of production. Some people have pointed out that he hasn't developed any moves, and others have talked about the fact that he tends to take a step back at the snap. The biggest problem I see is that he has a tendency to lower his head when he attacks the LOS, and when he does that, the battle is all but lost. Regardless, all of the technique errors are correctable, and when corrected, he will be a force. But give him time. He's a rookie. It takes time.
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