Trade LJ to N.E?

[cardken]

It looks like Larry Johnson's days in KC are over, too many bridges have been burnt and his relationship with the organization seems tarnished. With that said, how would a trade for him to New England sound for a second round pick in this years draft. It seems logical because:


KC has Jamaal Charles and Kolby Smith

NE has been known to take chances on players (i.e. Randy Moss, Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon)

KC is young and rebuilding so draft picks are very valuable

NE has San Diego's 2nd round pick in 2009

Laurence Maroney has not been able to carry the load for a whole season and would benefit from a joint backfield like in college (Marion Barber)

[the Talking Can]

no one is giving a 2nd for LJ

no one

[chiefsngop]

In addition to LJ's off the field problems and current lack of production he's also tethered to a huge contract.

And the Pat's unlike the Chiefs, like to use their cap room. And I don't see them investing a chunk of cap room in LJ and limiting themselves in other areas.

[RustShack]

I think the pats like to take teams draft picks and draft stars with them... not throw away picks on teams ex stars.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by RustShack

I think the pats like to take teams draft picks and draft stars with them... not throw away picks on teams ex stars.

They "threw away" draft picks for Randy Moss and Corey Dillon.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Brock

They "threw away" draft picks for Randy Moss and Corey Dillon.

Moss isn't exactly washed up and hes not a RB nearing the deadly age of 30. Dillon was a RB on a team that already had another good RB and the Patriots hadn't drafted Laurence Maroney in the first yet either.

[Ultra Peanut]

I think I'm going to have to ignore this thread, because I keep hurting myself from laughing every time I see the title.

We out, out, out!

[Alphaman]

Originally Posted by cardken

I would agree with you about the Dolphins and Falcons, key points being top draft picks panning out (Matt Ryan), and new competent Head Coaches. The Titans however not so much. They had every intension of running with Young, when that went south, they relayed on a veteran Quarterback in Collins. And also did a lot of FA signing in Kearse, Mc Carriens,& Crumpler. They also the recepiants of a "perfect storm", in a week schedule and a weak division this year. But your "blueprint" can work, QFT. But my original argument being Johnson for the Chiefs is expendible and has value out there.
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1) Drafting high is not all about the 1st round pick. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks are all picks that should net one of the top 100 players in the draft. Those are huge picks in rebuilding.

2) In the 2 years the Titans were drafting high they only signed 1 free agent, the DE Kyle Vanden Bosch.

3) If LJ doesn't bring at least a 2nd round pick, then he doesn't bring the value necessary to part with him.

4) My original point is that the Chiefs have too many holes to fill to create another by cutting or trading LJ. The Chiefs must acquire a MLB, OLB, DE, OT, OG, QB and CB. That's a lot to fill. Adding RB to the list would not be a wise move.

[cardken]

Originally Posted by RustShack

I think the pats like to take teams draft picks and draft stars with them... not throw away picks on teams ex stars.

i.e.:See Randy Moss and Corey Dillon?

[cardken]

Originally Posted by RustShack

Moss isn't exactly washed up and hes not a RB nearing the deadly age of 30. Dillon was a RB on a team that already had another good RB and the Patriots hadn't drafted Laurence Maroney in the first yet either.

Dillon was Thirty (30) when he was traded for.

[ottawa_chiefs_fan]

We will get nothing for LJ - at best, he will retire and leave us intact.

[cardken]

Originally Posted by Alphaman

1) Drafting high is not all about the 1st round pick. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks are all picks that should net one of the top 100 players in the draft. Those are huge picks in rebuilding.

2) In the 2 years the Titans were drafting high they only signed 1 free agent, the DE Kyle Vanden Bosch.

3) If LJ doesn't bring at least a 2nd round pick, then he doesn't bring the value necessary to part with him.

4) My original point is that the Chiefs have too many holes to fill to create another by cutting or trading LJ. The Chiefs must acquire a MLB, OLB, DE, OT, OG, QB and CB. That's a lot to fill. Adding RB to the list would not be a wise move.

Well, we'll agree to disagree,

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by BigRock

ESPN The Magazine actually floats this in their latest issue. A "Don't be surprised if Belichick goes after Larry Johnson" type rumor, likening it to the Pats adding Corey Dillon a few years ago.

I hope it happens.. LJ seems to not have the desire here anymore without a stellar line.. It is infuriating to watch him run into the asses of our blockers where are other lesser backs pickup yards in those same situations..

If we can get a 2nd from anybody then do it..

It would be different if LJ seemed to try and make some extra yards imo.. But he just gives up most of the time.. This is professional football, your life, bust your ass and achieve glory..

[cardken]

Excellent story in ESPN Magazine. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?id=3694547

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Bwana

The guy is worth about a six of old Mill in trade value right now.

Shit, that boy'd be lucky to pull a 40 of sun-baked Schafer Light...

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by cardken

It looks like Larry Johnson's days in KC are over, too many bridges have been burnt and his relationship with the organization seems tarnished. With that said, how would a trade for him to New England sound for a second round pick in this years draft. It seems logical because:


KC has Jamaal Charles and Kolby Smith

NE has been known to take chances on players (i.e. Randy Moss, Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon)

KC is young and rebuilding so draft picks are very valuable

NE has San Diego's 2nd round pick in 2009

Laurence Maroney has not been able to carry the load for a whole season and would benefit from a joint backfield like in college (Marion Barber)

Awwww yeeeah; this shit was on my other board too. Same topic, same response;

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