Football What Exactly Determines a Sack? - Page 2

MTG#10 · 01-18-2009, 02:50 PM

Im having a debate with a friend and was wondering if someone could clear something up for me...preferably with a link to proof.

I always thought if a QB was tackled behind the LOS it counted as a sack no matter what. My friend says that if the QB is tackled while trying to hand the ball off its not considered a sack. Who's right?

MTG#10 · 01-18-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

in Madden if you tackle the QB while he's handing it off, they don't count it as a sack

Oh. Well, there's my answer then. Madden rules all.

MTG#10 · 01-18-2009, 03:46 PM

What if its a play action pass, if you tackle the QB before he fakes the handoff it it a sack?

dj56dt58 · 01-18-2009, 04:30 PM

why are you asking Chief fans?

MTG#10 · 01-18-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

why are you asking Chief fans?

Touche.

JuicesFlowing · 01-18-2009, 05:29 PM

This is a sack.

chief52 · 01-18-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

Thats what I said, but he swears there are exceptions. Unfortunately the rule book at NFL.com is very vague and doesnt really say.

You will not find a "sack" in the rule book, I would not think. It has nothing to do with the rules. It is a statistic.

blueballs · 01-18-2009, 05:48 PM

good thing you felt it up first

theultimatekcchiefsfan · 01-18-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10

He also says that if the play is intended as a QB run and the QB doesnt get to the LOS its just a tackle.

That happened today on the first game, and Phil pointed out that it was not a sack because, I believe it was McNabb, was in in a deliberate rushing play.

I had never heard that one before, but I trust Phil since he played that position all those years.

Christofire · 01-18-2009, 11:30 PM

A sack is also counted if you manage to strip the ball from the QB on a pass attempt, even if you don't physically tackle him. Hali did that twice to Phil Rivers in the second Chiefs/Chargers game in '08.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 01-18-2009, 11:49 PM

Your friend pays too much attention to stats on Madden

Discuss Thrower · 01-18-2009, 11:49 PM

All I know is that you CANNOT intercept a sack.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 01-18-2009, 11:50 PM

And I should have read the thread first

KCrockaholic · 01-19-2009, 12:30 AM

lol hes been playing to much madden dude. Ok, if the QB is tackled, or stripped of the ball behind the LOS it is a Sack. Ok so your friend says if its a running play then its not a sack if the qb is tackled. So tell him, how can they prove that the so called "running play" wasnt actually a play-action that just didnt work out? ...he wont have a smart answer if he has one at all to come back from that.

KCrockaholic · 01-19-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by theultimatekcchiefsfan

That happened today on the first game, and Phil pointed out that it was not a sack because, I believe it was McNabb, was in in a deliberate rushing play.

I had never heard that one before, but I trust Phil since he played that position all those years.

so how can they determine that it was a drawn up QB run and not just a blown play that the qb tries to scramble on? I dont see it being possible unless that ask the coach what play he was running, which just isnt gonna happen.

**TinyEvel** · 01-19-2009, 03:29 AM

What are these "sacks" you speak of?

If, by "sack" you mean there is a possibility to tackle the QB behind the LOS for a loss in yardage, then, someone should definitely tell the Chiefs D coaches about this!

It wold be a really great thing for our team to try in a game!

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KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3442900	lol hes been playing to much madden dude. Ok, if the QB is tackled, or stripped of the ball behind the LOS it is a Sack. Ok so your friend says if its a running play then its not a sack if the qb is tackled. So tell him, how can they prove that the so called "running play" wasnt actually a play-action that just didnt work out? ...he wont have a smart answer if he has one at all to come back from that.
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