Chiefs Cassel or Sanchez? - Page 9

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 06:45 PM

I realize that we are where we are, but the more I see about Sanchez, the more I'm afraid that a few years down the road, we may look back and realize that we passed up on the franchise guy that we've been looking for. I know that Cassel played ok last year, but is he a franchise guy? ...likely not. Thoughts?

milkman · 04-11-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

All this would do is guarantee that Branden Albert would ask you for a LT contract thus meaning you'd have 150 million dollars in OT or he'd walk to a team that would pay him like one.

As a long term idea it's a failure.

And after moving Albert, when he does walk for more money, you can always replace a RT or guard with a mid round pick.

**SAUTO** · 04-11-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i haven't read the thread yet, but i'll take a wild guess that the subject and comments are fresh and original?

lots of great first time points in here.

**SAUTO** · 04-11-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And after moving Albert, when he does walk for more money, you can always replace a RT or guard with a mid round pick.

**Reaper16** · 04-11-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Why it would be the same thing, he knows he can play LT and would want paid like one. You thought he was a better prospect that Long last year, making him a better prospect than Albert, but you don't want him playing LT? Or are you advocating moving Albert going against everything you've been saying? Either way thats setting the team up for long term failure.

Maybe he thought that Albert is a better prospect than Long? I know I did/do.

KCBOSS1 · 04-11-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i haven't read the thread yet, but i'll take a wild guess that the subject and comments are fresh and original?

Actually they are. Go back and read from page one and give us a short book report at the end.

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 07:54 PM

Well its a good thing we have the franchise tag so he can't just walk. Also the tag would pay him like a top OG, not LT.

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 07:54 PM

I don't like Jake Long as a high pick, I wouldn't take a guy who struggles in pass protection that high...

milkman · 04-11-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

I'm slightly confused, you say Monroe and Smith are a lot better than Long last year... Long along with a few other LT's were better prospects than Albert, but Albert is better than Monroe and Smith? Interesting.

Albert has the potential to be better than any LT taken in this draft, and the last draft as well.

I'm not taking another LT to replace a guy that has Willie Roaf potential.

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Maybe he thought that Albert is a better prospect than Long? I know I did/do.

It doesn't really matter because he thought Oher was the best last year...

**SAUTO** · 04-11-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Well its a good thing we have the franchise tag so he can't just walk. Also the tag would pay him like a top OG, not LT.

good idea unless he appeals to be paid like a LT didnt suggs do this after the season

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Well its a good thing we have the franchise tag so he can't just walk. Also the tag would pay him like a top OG, not LT.

No offense or anything but if you take another OT high this year, whichever one moves should be playing RT not OG first....OT's are more valuable than any interior line position.

If you want an OT this is the argument I want, trade down once or twice get several extra picks take Oher play him at RT, that's the argument I expect. That way Albert and him combined don't make as much as Monroe does and you can realistically re-sign both of them.

Mecca · 04-11-2009, 07:56 PM

Michael Oher does have top flight potential, his ceiling may be the highest of any OT in the draft this year and last he's just not nearly as sure of a bet.

**SAUTO** · 04-11-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

No offense or anything but if you take another OT high this year, whichever one moves should be playing RT not OG first....OT's are more valuable than any interior line position.

If you want an OT this is the argument I want, trade down once or twice get several extra picks take Oher play him at RT, that's the argument I expect. That way Albert and him combined don't make as much as Monroe does and you can realistically re-sign both of them.

i could agree with this, was against oher(brains) but looked around and found out ryan clady can only say "duuuuhhhhh" and "deeeeerrrr"

splatbass · 04-11-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyle DeLexus

A big reason is you don't have a franchise guy that needs to play from the gun to look good. He reminds me of a more accurate Tyler Thigpen.

He didn't always play from the shotgun.

RustShack · 04-11-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Albert has the potential to be better than any LT taken in this draft, and the last draft as well.

I'm not taking another LT to replace a guy that has Willie Roaf potential.

He also has the potential to be the best OG ever, he also wasn't drafted too high to be labeled as a bust if he goes back to his original position. Monroe also has that same if not more LT potential...

I'm not saying LT should be the pick... but I would rather not reach and sometimes you have to take what your dealt...

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