Misc Racist, tasteless or good to go? - Page 3

MikeMaslowski · 10-26-2009, 04:01 PM

This is a spin off of the language thread. It just happens to be very well timed for my current situation. I am in the Army and my 1SG a.k.a First Sergeant(head senior enlisted boss) is the topic of this next situation. 1SG is black and I am white.

1SG walks into room after all courtesies had been rendered. I am standing around with other soldiers. Admittedly, I'm standing like joe-cool with my hands on my sides staring off into space.

1SG walks up to me.
1SG "You got pistols in your pocket?"
ME- I go to parade rest (military position with hands behind my back)
ME- "No 1SG"
1SG "You look like a teapot."
ME- "I'm sorry 1SG am I not allowed to stand like that?"
1SG "You can stand however you want."
1SG walks away and I stupidly don't take the hint and go back to standing that way and 1SG walks back in.
1SG "Don't stand like that."
ME- "Yes 1SG"
1SG "You know who stands like that?"
ME- "Who 1SG"
1SG "A slave owner stands like that when he's watching his slaves in the field working. Have you ever seen a slave owner."
ME- "No 1SG"
1SG "Well thats how they stand."

I didn't take it too much to heart at that time(happened 2 months ago). But many circumstances that have happened after that have lead me to believe that he has a huge problem with me. My direct supervisor is aware of the situation and I think some stuff is brewing about this with my unit and am not really sure what to be expecting now.

What do you think about the exchange?

rad · 10-31-2009, 05:12 AM

Are you short and stout?

SCTrojan · 10-31-2009, 08:55 AM

Stupid, tasteless comment, but if an isolated event, probably not that big of a deal.

In the same situation, I was once told, "Get your hands off your hips, you ain't in charge of nothing."

DeepPurple · 10-31-2009, 12:05 PM

The first clue that he wasn't a good first sergeant was when he asked you, do you know who stands like that? He should of said, "steers and queers and you don't look like a steer to me".

I really need to ask, what rank are you? Because I never went into the orderly room in uniform until I was an E-5, I always wore my civies. Secondly, even though I wasn't married I would still live off post, that is also good for your love life. Thirdly I never hung out in locations that the first sergeant or C.O. would likely show up, as in the orderly room, arms room, day room, mess hall (eat off post), NCO Club (go to civilian bars), and so on. Lastly, never sleep in late if your in the barracks, go to the movies on post and sit in the back, it's a great place to sleep.

Fairplay · 10-31-2009, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeMaslowski

1SG "A slave owner stands like that when he's watching his slaves in the field working. Have you ever seen a slave owner."

Yes i've watched Roots, hasn't everyone?

MikeMaslowski · 10-31-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepPurple

The first clue that he wasn't a good first sergeant was when he asked you, do you know who stands like that? He should of said, "steers and queers and you don't look like a steer to me".

I really need to ask, what rank are you? Because I never went into the orderly room in uniform until I was an E-5, I always wore my civies. Secondly, even though I wasn't married I would still live off post, that is also good for your love life. Thirdly I never hung out in locations that the first sergeant or C.O. would likely show up, as in the orderly room, arms room, day room, mess hall (eat off post), NCO Club (go to civilian bars), and so on. Lastly, never sleep in late if your in the barracks, go to the movies on post and sit in the back, it's a great place to sleep.

I'm not a 1SG yet... I live in military housing(not the barracks), only because it is in Italy. He doesn't live where I live. He actually said this to me at a promotion ceremony.

Just found out he told our S1(finance/Human resources who happens to be my friend) .....

"You better tell your boy to watch his mouth cuz I know people."

I don't know what this guy is thinkin...but I might take this to a new level now that I know that.

kcfanXIII · 10-31-2009, 03:15 PM

i probably would have asked him if he had seen a slave owner. i'm a smart ass though, and know this. why i probably didn't enlist. thanks to all those that did though.

MikeMaslowski · 10-31-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

i probably would have asked him if he had seen a slave owner. i'm a smart ass though, and know this. why i probably didn't enlist. thanks to all those that did though.

I was thinking that... like damn, im not fuggin 200 years old...

Things are gonna blow up for me on monday. My job is in jeopardy and I'm not sure how this fugg is gonna try to tear me down...

whoman69 · 10-31-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelH

It's the military, you're going to find all kinds of "racism" if you look hard enough. I enlisted in the Army Reserve. At the Army hospital where I was getting all the testing done, I ran across a rather obnoxiously rude Marine Lance Corporal. He did the whole "where are you from boy?" act on me. I told him and then the old "steers and queers come from there and I don't see no horns on you, boy" act. He kept pressing trying to get me to say something like I was a pillowbiter or something. I had just turned 18 and hadn't been exposed to such nonsense and was a little freaked out by it. The worse part was this Lance Corporal weighed maybe 130 soaking wet and had braces. I would have loved to knock his braces down his throat but resisted.

Maybe he was just looking for a date.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-31-2009, 08:35 PM

I wouldn't last 10 minutes in the military.

Kudos to y'all that serve(d).

JohninGpt · 10-31-2009, 08:47 PM

Obnoxious and tasteless. A Senior Enlisted Advisor for any unit, and I have been one, should never use or refer to race to correct or attempt to motivate troops. I'm gonna say this guy is either a bigot or a dumbass, I'm leaning towards dumbass.

Not to say that I was ever above a tasteless joke in the interest of motivation.

sportsman1 · 10-31-2009, 08:55 PM

Damn man.. best of luck. You just reinforced to me why I want nothing to do with the military. I deeply respect the bullshit ya'll put up with to do the good work you gotta do.

JohninGpt · 10-31-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsman1

Damn man.. best of luck. You just reinforced to me why I want nothing to do with the military. I deeply respect the bullshit ya'll put up with to do the good work you gotta do.

If you were talking to me, thanks, but I'm beyond luck, I retired a year or so ago.

sportsman1 · 10-31-2009, 09:03 PM

You made it out then lol. No it sounds Mike's having a hell of a time.

JohninGpt · 10-31-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsman1

You made it out then lol. No it sounds Mike's having a hell of a time.

Sounds like Mike has a jackass 1st sgt who has a hardon for him. The beauty of the military is, one of them will transfer before too long, and everyone gets a fresh start.

Archie F. Swin · 11-01-2009, 08:19 AM

After a few years in a military academy and a tour in the Navy, I'm convinced that all 1st Sgts and their intra-force equals have to go through 6 weeks of Douchebag Training, in which 2 weeks has to be devoted to close combat douchebaggery.

As for the guy mentioned in the original post, he probably spent 5 hours the previous night scripting that one up.

10-26-2009, 04:01 PM
MikeMaslowski There's always next year. Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10009290	Racist, tasteless or good to go? This is a spin off of the language thread. It just happens to be very well timed for my current situation. I am in the Army and my 1SG a.k.a First Sergeant(head senior enlisted boss) is the topic of this next situation. 1SG is black and I am white. 1SG walks into room after all courtesies had been rendered. I am standing around with other soldiers. Admittedly, I'm standing like joe-cool with my hands on my sides staring off into space. 1SG walks up to me. 1SG "You got pistols in your pocket?" ME- I go to parade rest (military position with hands behind my back) ME- "No 1SG" 1SG "You look like a teapot." ME- "I'm sorry 1SG am I not allowed to stand like that?" 1SG "You can stand however you want." 1SG walks away and I stupidly don't take the hint and go back to standing that way and 1SG walks back in. 1SG "Don't stand like that." ME- "Yes 1SG" 1SG "You know who stands like that?" ME- "Who 1SG" 1SG "A slave owner stands like that when he's watching his slaves in the field working. Have you ever seen a slave owner." ME- "No 1SG" 1SG "Well thats how they stand." I didn't take it too much to heart at that time(happened 2 months ago). But many circumstances that have happened after that have lead me to believe that he has a huge problem with me. My direct supervisor is aware of the situation and I think some stuff is brewing about this with my unit and am not really sure what to be expecting now. What do you think about the exchange?
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10-31-2009, 08:55 AM	#32
SCTrojan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Across the park Casino cash: $4899719	Stupid, tasteless comment, but if an isolated event, probably not that big of a deal. In the same situation, I was once told, "Get your hands off your hips, you ain't in charge of nothing." __________________ And to the Royals: it will take a lot more than this to break my fandom. I wish I knew how to quit you. But I don’t. - Rany on the Royals - July 2, 2009 This was a once-in-a-lifetime kind of season. This was a once-in-a-lifetime kind of team. Sports are pain. And then, suddenly, they are perfection. - Rany on the Royals - Nov. 2, 2015
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10-31-2009, 12:05 PM	#33
DeepPurple I could of gone pro Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Villages, Florida Casino cash: $10005676	The first clue that he wasn't a good first sergeant was when he asked you, do you know who stands like that? He should of said, "steers and queers and you don't look like a steer to me". I really need to ask, what rank are you? Because I never went into the orderly room in uniform until I was an E-5, I always wore my civies. Secondly, even though I wasn't married I would still live off post, that is also good for your love life. Thirdly I never hung out in locations that the first sergeant or C.O. would likely show up, as in the orderly room, arms room, day room, mess hall (eat off post), NCO Club (go to civilian bars), and so on. Lastly, never sleep in late if your in the barracks, go to the movies on post and sit in the back, it's a great place to sleep.
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10-31-2009, 03:15 PM	#36
kcfanXIII Ride on! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Galaxy far far away Casino cash: $10013172	i probably would have asked him if he had seen a slave owner. i'm a smart ass though, and know this. why i probably didn't enlist. thanks to all those that did though. __________________ Faster, faster, until the thrill of speed, overcomes the fear of death.
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10-31-2009, 08:35 PM	#39
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10-31-2009, 08:47 PM	#40
JohninGpt Dammit Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Busted Stick, IT Casino cash: $4248304	Obnoxious and tasteless. A Senior Enlisted Advisor for any unit, and I have been one, should never use or refer to race to correct or attempt to motivate troops. I'm gonna say this guy is either a bigot or a dumbass, I'm leaning towards dumbass. Not to say that I was ever above a tasteless joke in the interest of motivation.
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10-31-2009, 08:55 PM	#41
sportsman1 Nomadical Transient in Chief Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Casino cash: $10005215	Damn man.. best of luck. You just reinforced to me why I want nothing to do with the military. I deeply respect the bullshit ya'll put up with to do the good work you gotta do.
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10-31-2009, 09:03 PM	#43
sportsman1 Nomadical Transient in Chief Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Casino cash: $10005215	You made it out then lol. No it sounds Mike's having a hell of a time.
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11-01-2009, 08:19 AM	#45
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